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AMD Trinity, Socket FM2

Hmmm ova vest me je poprilično iznenadila...ja kupujem relativno često u Aldi-ju, doduše kod mene u Ofenbahu je Aldi-Sud, a Aldi-Nord je ista firma samo ogranak za severni deo Nemačke. Aldi-Sud do sada ovo nije najavio...pratiću vesti sigurno.

E sad, pitanje je kolike količine su u pitanju i da li su ploče FM2 uopšte dovršene kako treba...
 
Ako je verovati ovom linku http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Trinity-Desktop-Processors-Truly-Delayed-to-October-281134.shtml nažalost, desktop Trinity je odložen za oktobar mesec.

We've been pretty excited about the prospects of AMD launching its next desktop accelerated processing units a month from now, but reports say this won't actually happen.

Advanced Micro Devices was supposed to release a new batch of Trinity desktop accelerated processing units in August 2012.


Unfortunately, assuming Digitimes knows what it is talking about, the likelihood is higher for the launch to be delayed by another two months.

We admit, this isn't the first time someone says the units have been pushed back to the fourth quarter. Hints towards this have existed since June, and even earlier.

We still hoped the rumors would be invalidated though, especially since manufacturing issues have long since lost their credibility as causes for Trinity delays.

Nevertheless, the Digitimes report mentioned both production and design issues as well as the level of Llano APU inventories (they are supposedly too high, even now).

Whichever the cause, the move is very disruptive, not just to consumers eager to see more Fusion but also to motherboard makers.

Sure, AMD may continue with the AM3 and AM3+ sockets, but whatever changes it makes to the platform will require product revisions on the part of mainboard makers as well

After all, the new wave of motherboards is scheduled for the second half of the year, and though some may hang back until November or December, most still hope to go forward with the October launch roadmap.

The AMD products that are still on track for a third quarter release are the FX-8350, FX-6300 and FX-4320 CPUs. All of them fit the AM3+ pin layout and hover around the 125W TDP (thermal design power).

Advanced Micro Devices did not comment on the Llano inventory theory, or any other really, but this fits with regular company policies to not speak about unannounced products. By our guess, the corporation seeks to build up a strong supply before assaulting the consumer base right as Microsoft brings out Windows 8. It could make up for the weak showing in the second quarter.
 
Evo jedna od zanimljivih ploca

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MSI's second most interesting socket FM2 motherboard is the A85IA-E53, perhaps the first socket FM2 motherboard in the mini-ITX form-factor. Although its name says otherwise, it is based on the previous-generation A75 chipset, which is no big deal, there's no room for eight SATA 6 Gb/s ports from the A85 FCH, anyway, and you still end up with four 6 Gb/s ports. In the limited board space, MSI was able to cram in a 5-phase VRM to power the APU, a power design consisting of 24-pin + 4-pin power inputs, two full-size DDR3 DIMM slots supporting up to 16 GB of dual-channel DDR3-1866 MHz memory, a lone PCI-Express 2.0 x16 expansion card slot, display outs that include HDMI and D-Sub, 802.11 b/g/n, and Bluetooth.

I u ovu plocu ubosti A8-5500 ili bolji ako imas para i divna konf.
 
Pa i nije neka ploča, bolje su Biostar na A85X čipsetu, bilo ih je u najavi na Computex sajmu.
 
Naravno da ima boljih ploca, ovu sam naveo kao prvu koju sam nasao u mini -itx formatu, i zato mi je bila zanimljiva, e sad ako nekom treba 2 x PCI-e ; 8 x SATA ;PCI-e x 1 ; PCI-e x4 ; PCI to je druga prica. Mada ni one se nisu proslavile sa naponskom , barem one koje sam video do sad.
 
Nažalost, danas je stigla vest da je, izgleda, Trinity definitivno odložen za Oktobar mesec. Evo šta kaže vest.

AMD has reportedly postponed the launch of its Trinity processors for desktop platforms from August to October in order to make some adjustments to the processors' designs. Downstream motherboard makers are also rushing to make adjustments to their new motherboard projects set to release in the second half, according to sources from motherboard makers.

In addition to production and design issues with the Trinity processors, AMD's previous-generation Llano processor's high inventory levels which need to be digested are reportedly one of the reasons that AMD decided to delay the launch of Trinity. However, AMD did not confirm the speculation.

Many Socket FM2-based processors including A10-5800k will be delayed.

Meanwhile, AMD originally planned to fully replace AM3-based processors with its FM1-based processors, but has recently adjusted its roadmap and changed the phase-out schedule of AM3-based processors from mid-2012 to the second quarter of 2013, while the processor series will account for 30% of AMD's total desktop processor shipments, the sources noted.

The sources also pointed out that after October, many AMD-based CPUs with different sockets will be available in the market including AM3, AM3+ (Vishera), FM1 (Llano), FM2 (Trinity) and FT1 (Brazos 2.0). Of which, FM2-based processors will account for 22% of AMD's total desktop processor shipments in the fourth quarter, while FM1-based products' proportion will drop from 30% in the third quarter to only 16%. AM3 and AM3+ processors will still be the major CPU segments for AMD in the fourth quarter.

In October, AMD also plans to launch three new AM3+ Vishera-based processors (Volan) including FX-8350 (125W/95W) and FX6300, with FX-4320 to be launched at a later time.

AMD Taiwan declined to comment on products that have not yet been launched and pointed out that its product lines are all currently processing on track.

Izgleda da je neka promena dizajna, u poslednjem momentu, uzrok kašnjenja. Bolje i to, nego da izbace procesor sa greškom, nadam se da je AMD naučio na greškama iz prošlosti, jer da nije ne verujem da bi ovoliko odlagali desktop Trinity.


http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120713PD203.html
 
Poslednja izmena:
Apple has quietly hired ex-AMD engineer John Bruno, the man responsible in no small part for the Trinity APU. Bruno is now “System Architect at Apple” according to a recent update to his LinkedIn profile, though the exact nature of his role at the Cupertino company has not been detailed. Still, there’s no shortage of potential speculation as to what the chip expert could be doing.

At Apple, Bruno is likely to be taking up similar reins as he managed at AMD. That could be part of Apple’s rumored progress working on its own processors for mobile and desktop; the company has already pushed ahead with its Apple Ax range of ARM-based chips for phones and tablets, and long-standing rumors suggest the company is also planning to shift its desktop line of MacBooks and Macs onto ARM silicon at some point too.
 
AMD, navodno, radi na Trinity 2.0 procesoru, čime se možda može objasniti ovoliko kašnjenje Trinity-ja za desktop.

Opet ti sa kasnjenjem Trinity-ja za desktop. AMD uveliko prodaje te procesore, samo ih ne prodaje u retailu, odnosno ne mozes da usetas u prodavnicu i kupis jedan... sem ako uz njega ne kupis i ostatak racunara, sve sa kucistem. 😉

Ili imaju manjak procesora nove generacije, ili imaju visak procesora stare.
 
Pa nadam se da je taj datum tačan, još nema ništa na Vr-Zone i techpowerup sajtovima, nekako njima najviše verujem od svih sajtova sa hardverskim vestima, takođe Digitimes je dosta pouzdan.

Verovatno će se 100 % znati datum sada na sajmu u Berlinu od 31.avgusta do 4 septembra, kada će biti prikazane FM2 ploče i ko zna sve ne još. 🙂
 
AMD Trinity A10-5800, i radi se o quad-core APUu koji ima radni takt od 3,8 GHz a 4,2 GHz uz turbo. Takođe sadrži 4 MB L3 keš memorije, 100 W TDP rejting kao i HD 7660D grafiku koja sarži 384 šejdera uz radni takt na 800MHz.

Ima L3 kes? Pa onda je ovo sledeci FX sa 4 jezgra kome je ubacen i gpu?
 
NEMA L3 keš, to je greška tog sajta koji je objavio vest a Benchmark se odmah primio ko jagnje i to je preneo u svoju vest...ima samo L1 i L2 keš.
 
Bliži se zvanično predstavljanje Trinity procesora, razni sajtovi su javili, pre dan ili dva, da se AMD sprema da zvanično najavi Trinity 1.oktobra.

S tim u vezi, evo nekih linkova za čitanje:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Will-Announce-Trinity-Desktop-APUs-on-October-1-2012-293081.shtml
http://news.softpedia.com/news/A-Ne...Us-Still-Says-They-re-Dirt-Cheap-293449.shtml
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Shows-5-GHz-FX-8350-and-4-GHz-Trinity-293080.shtml


A ovo su FM2 ploče koje su najavljene, do sada, a Biostar je svoju FM2 ploču(zasnovanu na A85X čipsetu) čak i najavio:

http://www.techpowerup.com/172444/BIOSTAR-Launches-the-Hi-Fi-A85X-FM2-Motherboard.html
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Trinity-Ready-Gigabyte-FM2-Motherboard-Exposed-293225.shtml


Dakle, spremite se, za nekih dve nedelje očekuju se prvi testovi, a najranije 1.oktobra.
 
Biće ovo jako lepa platforma, jedva čekam prve testove. Šteta samo što Llano i Trinity ne dele isti socket, ali šta da se radi.
 
"The new Haswell architecture is not really impressive when it comes to x86 performance and all the improvements are expected to range somewhere below the 10% mark.
On the other hand, AMD is the underdog of the x86 performance and, in an attempt to crash Intel’s party, it has called some IDF visitors to its hotel suite in the vicinity of the IDF event.
The company had some impressive gaming systems on display and one of them was reportedly powered by an AMD FX-8350 processor running at 5 GHz"

Kakvi su ovi bolesnici....
NO COMMENT! 🙂
 
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da li ovo znaci da ce da spustaju cene ovih fx procesora sto su sada na trzistu to bi bilo kul 🙂
 
da li ovo znaci da ce da spustaju cene ovih fx procesora sto su sada na trzistu to bi bilo kul 🙂

Pa kad se zvanično pojave Piledriver i Trinity procesori, što bi trebalo biti negde u oktobru, verovatno da će AMD barem malo dodatno spustiti cene.

A sadašnje FX procesore AMD planira da,nakon toga, "ubije" tj. povuče iz prodaje već do januara, otprilike.
 
Piledriver bi po najavama trebao solidno da bude skuplji od trenutnih cena Bulldozera, tako da je pitanje koliko ce spustiti cene, mozda malo da bi rasprodali stare zalihe.
 
Sudeći po tome što će A10 5800K koštati negde oko 125-130 evra, ispada da već imamo apsolutni hit na tržištu. Predviđam da će Trinity ostvariti veliki uspeh na tržištu, jer ako se ostvari ovo da je procesor veoma dobar u overklokovanju kupiće ga mnogi.
 
jel ima neko predstavu koliko cemo otprilike da cekamo od dana objave pa do trenutka kad ce se pojaviti kod nas u prodaji?

ja planiram da kupim novu konfu pa me zanima da li cu cekati dve nedelje ili dva meseca na ovo...
 
Poslednja izmena:
Pa ne bi trebalo dugo vremena da prođe, s obzirom da AMD poodavno ima ove procesore na lageru samo je davao prioritet OEM proizvođačima pa ga zato nije bilo u slobodnoj prodaji. Verovatno negde desetak dana posle premijere krenuće prodaja i u Srbiji.
 
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