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LA Noire [PS3/x360]

Huh, PS3 ima SSAO a 360 verzija nema, kako sad to? Obicno je obrnuto? Pa meni 360 verzija i bez toga izgleda fenomenalno. Inace ja ovaj Lens of truth nikad ne mogu da otvorim kako treba. Sajt je bar za mene ocajno spor i cesto mi i ne prikaze slike uopste.
 
Igra je prvenstveno razvijana kao PS3 ekskluziva, tek kasnije je najavljena i za kutiju pa je Team Bondi bio primoran da uradi port tako da je logicno da bolje radi "original" verzija.

Anyway, mnogo ljudi ubacuje R* u pricu oko razvijanja igre ali je R* zapravo imao veoma malo uticaja sto se tice toga (pomagali su TB-u samo oko nekih animacija), glavni baja u TB-u je baja koji je radio serijal The Getaway (koji je po meni imao odlicnih potencijala da postane ozbiljan serijal) pa je lik kasnije napustio Team Soho i osnovao Team Bondi i drago mi je da napokon neka ozbiljnija igra moze da postane uspesna pored vecine junk-ova koje nam se servira poslednjih godina.
 
A ok, ja sam mislio da je ovo cistokrvna rockstar igra..
 
Igra je prvenstveno razvijana kao PS3 ekskluziva, tek kasnije je najavljena i za kutiju pa je Team Bondi bio primoran da uradi port tako da je logicno da bolje radi "original" verzija.

Anyway, mnogo ljudi ubacuje R* u pricu oko razvijanja igre ali je R* zapravo imao veoma malo uticaja sto se tice toga (pomagali su TB-u samo oko nekih animacija), glavni baja u TB-u je baja koji je radio serijal The Getaway (koji je po meni imao odlicnih potencijala da postane ozbiljan serijal) pa je lik kasnije napustio Team Soho i osnovao Team Bondi i drago mi je da napokon neka ozbiljnija igra moze da postane uspesna pored vecine junk-ova koje nam se servira poslednjih godina.

Da,da gospodin McNamara koji je bio zaduzen za The Getaway.... Secam se jos davne 2006 da sam citao u Gameplay casopisu o LA Noir
 
Izgleda da PS3 verzija pregrijava konzolu :
"We have received a very small number of customer support questions about PS3's overheating or shutting down while playing L.A. Noire," the company said in a statement on its blog which is jointly attributed to PS3 maker Sony. " At this time, Rockstar Games and Sony can confirm that neither L.A. Noire or firmware update 3.61 are causing the PS3 hardware to overheat. We are both committed to working hard to find solutions to this and any issues that may arise."
 
Kako si to shvatio iz ove rečenice, objasni molim te...

At this time, Rockstar Games and Sony can confirm that neither L.A. Noire or firmware update 3.61 are causing the PS3 hardware to overheat.
 
Rockstar Backtrack On Firmware Comment, Sony Weigh In
"It wasn't me."


Yesterday a post appeared on the Rockstar site advising gamers that, in their opinion, the PS3′s latest firmware version (3.61) was responsible, at least in part, to the overheating issues consoles were experiencing when playing L.A. Noire. We wrote about it here, look.

After that, a few things happened. The original post was taken down from the Rockstar site, and another FAQ was added in its place without further explanation. However, community support posts in the comments still alluded to the firmware being the main issue.

Today though, the story has developed further. Sony have said that it’s not the firmware at fault – 3.61 is widely assumed to simply be a placeholder firmware to enable users back onto the PS3.

“As with the release of any System Update,” said a spokesperson for the manufacturer, “we will invariably see a very small number of users whose console has failed following updating their console, which is an unfortunate coincidence.”

“Rockstar have now updated their FAQ on the matter,” Sony continue, “have admitted that it is a fault with their latest title L.A. Noire and have offered a work around. It should also be noted that the issue with this title is not PS3 specific and is also affecting other consoles.

We reckon it’s probably down to HD consoles having to render in black and white. Tricky, that.


Izvor: LINK
 
We reckon it’s probably down to HD consoles having to render in black and white. Tricky, that.

The horrorrr.... :d
 
Igra je toliko dobra da je stvarno greota sto je voznja tako skarabudzena. Akcione sekvence koje se ticu voznje i te kako su imale potencijala da budu ako ne iste, pa ono dosta slicne onima iz prve Mafije, ali su skroz podbacile. Medjutim, igra je toliko dobra da je ovakva stvar nebitna (a urlao bih na sav glas da je bilo koja druga igra u pitanju) 🙂
 
Reci lepo GotY, da te ceo svet razume 😛
 
Pa kada je izasao Red Dead Redemption svi ste pricali ovo je dobro,iza svakog kutka vreba nesto novo...Kakav je ovde grad?
 
Pa kada je izasao Red Dead Redemption svi ste pricali ovo je dobro,iza svakog kutka vreba nesto novo...Kakav je ovde grad?

Samo cu reci da je grad ogroman,ali da mu fali malo vise "zivosti" (if you get me 😛 ) btw. Da li je neko dosao do onih 100% kompletiranja igre? 🙂
 
Pa i ne treba mu mnogo više živosti. Ipak je to kraj četrdesetih... Nije LA ono što je danas.
 
Ja ne znam sta ce veca zivost od zlatnog doba holivuda, pijanica na sve strane, narkomana, bolesnih pedofila, serijskih ubica.
 
http://www.richardcobbett.com/journal/the-shadows-of-la-noire/
If anyone needs to buy the writers a present before they start work on LA Noire 2, I suggest a DVD gift-basket of Chinatown, LA Confidential, and Who Framed Roger Rabbit. And a notebook. And a pen.


Gledao sam igru kod prijatelja dok je igrao tokom prvih 4-5 sati i skoro ništa osim muzike i FA mi se ne sviđa. Omanuli su najvažnije stvari za igru ovog tipa. Mehanika istraživanja zločina i ispitivanja je loše odrađena i prilično limitirana u interakciji, noire ambijent i atmosfera su pratkično skroz omašeni (igra ne liči na doterane "noir" kontrastne pre-release fotke maltene nimalo), a likovi su slabo portrerisani i neubedljivi. Jedino odlična muzika doprinosi tome da vas podseti da se radi o "noir" tematici.

Iskreno, prilično me nervira trend želje developera/izdavača/publike da igre budu "cinematic", sa plitkom i pojednostavljenom mehanikom ili maltene nepostojećom interakcijom (HR). Povrh toga, čak i ako je navodno fokus na sekundarnim aspektima (iako skoro nikad ne bi trebalo da budu u jednoj igri), dobiju se loše/katastrofalno napisane priče i karakterizacija likova. A sve to zajedno je loše izrežirano... Kao da se developeri plaše da prave igre, i osećaju da će izdavanjem "filmskih" igara dobiti validaciju od drugih medijuma. Pre mi zvuči kao očajnička potreba da gaming dobiju etiketu "mature" hobija za odrasle od strane šire publike.


Pročitajte neke od korisničkih opisa na Metacriticu pre nego što odlučite da kupite igru.

On the surface La Noire seemed intriguing; a detective game that combines investigation with combat , driving, and interrogation set in the seedy/glamorous setting of 40's LA. Despite its grand ambitions it fails on almost every level, because the whole thing is a mere illusion. The main crux of the game is - as it should be - about detecting. Scouring crime scenes for clues, talking to witnesses, experts, and adding up the evidence. But all of this is very shallow and limited. Whilst the searching for clues is handled well, how you are able to use them in interrogation is frustrating, and in many instances plain illogical, reminding me of the old point 'n' click adventures, where rather than using logic and the clues in a 'real world' way, you had to second guess what the developers were thinking. There were many instances during the game that if it were for real, i would have shoved a slew of damning evidence in the face of a witness to intimidate and get them to spill, but the game will only allow you to ask a very narrow set of questions, where there is only one 'correct' answer. This renders much of the info stuffed in your notebook utterly useless. As a result interviews - whilst there is no denying the stunning nature of the facial tech - leave you feeling deeply unfulfilled, as do the end of many cases It gives you a whole beautiful city, but nothing to do in it (and no i wasn't expecting it to, nor wanting it to, be gta). The foot chases are simply a case of holding the sprint button and directing which way to run - you dont even have to press a button to time jumps. Also, in some chases you can't draw your weapon (because the game needs you to have the perp taken alive), whilst in others where the game wants you to kill them, it sets up a clunky cover-shoot scenario. And this really sums up the game. Where it should be a game of intellect and choices that have consequence, La Noire never takes off the handcuffs and lets you 'play'. You can't, for example, just go back to interview a suspect you've arrested, you have to wait until the game wants you to. You can't go back to re-interview people - again unless the game wants you to. You can't go and discuss things with forensic pathologist or your captain unless...you get the idea. Everything you do feels like you're being pushed - sometimes forced - down paths to arrive at the next cut scene or the 'correct' conclusion. This is never more clear than at the end of a case where you have gotten many of the questions 'wrong' but still automatically end up solving the case. For all it's faults the game is actually quite engrossing. It pulls no punches in crime scenes and the acting is generally superb. I can only hope that team bondi get another chance to deliver a game of more substance rather than this alluring fraud.

This game already has a very loyal cult following and I suspect it always will, but I can't say I understand why. It's not much of a game, more like an interactive movie. No matter what you do the plot will progress and you can't change how things turn out. Alot of games manage to make this work by telling a good story, but this is not one of them. The story is like something a child would write. The character development is nonsensical. The twists in the plot are so predictable it'll put you to sleep. There is very little gameplay to speak of. There is no skill involved in the interrogations, you just go through the motions. Getting the correct answers is not necessary, it simply provides you more information. If you get wrong answers you'll still solve the case, but it may not make as much sense to you because a witness would have told you something else if you'd called him on a lie. Searching for evidence is monotonous and unchallenging since the game tells you when you've found it all. The monotony is broken up by action scenes which consist of chases and shootouts. This is kind of entertaining at first until you realize how insanely easy it is to win. Auto aim puts you right on target everytime and you have infinite ammo. Driving is mildly amusing but also insanely easy. They made a big deal out of the ability to explore LA, which you can, but you can't do anything except play out the story. I think the positive reviews are coming from a lot of kids and people who've just bought the game. If you want to pretend to be a cop in 1940s LA, it'll do that for you, and maybe that's why people like it. But if you're looking for a good game, this probably ain't for you. People who just want to play cops should check out the old police quest games for the pc. They were a lot better.


There's no doubt that visually this game is lovely, and that the subject material and basic storyline ideas are different and interesting. The problem comes with the actual gameplay, which is long-winded, repetitive and rather dull after the first couple of levels. These are some of my issues with LA Noire; 1. the character movement is clunky and cumbersome, and often you have to keep moving the character backwards and forwards just trying to get into the right position to investigate a clue. 2. there's a huge amount of lag between pressing buttons in certain investigation modes, and the character actually responding. 3. you're supposed to interrogate suspects, basing your responses on their facial expressions, but these swing from being laughably obvious and silly to inscrutably stoney-faced, with no real middle-ground. The final straw for me is the completely linear gameplay, whereby even if you don't get everything you need from a suspect the plot takes you on another route to the same conclusion. There's no real option for failure, or experimentation. At least, not based on my six hours of playing so far. LA Noire has received a huge amount of positive reviews, but I think it's one of those games that will split the audience down the middle. Overall I found myself enjoying the look of the game, but not really caring about the characters, and sadly not wanting to play anymore. I'll be trading it in straight away.


It's actually a sad indictment on the professional video game reviewers that this game can score such high reviews when there are 39 users who have written clearly honest reviews who feel the game is boring and thus not worthy of being purchased. Too many times I have read glowing reviews of the 'professionals' and purchased a game and then regretted not paying enough attention to more objective reviews of gamers. Just because Rockstar's name is on this and therefore we have long being looking forward to it doesn't make it a good game.

This isn't a game, it's a C-movie. There's barely any gameplay, and what's there is too easy and boring. If this is the direction gaming is going, I don't want to be there. If you want a game that relies on it's narrative play Planescape: Torment instead.
 
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Opet hater dosao da pljuje, a da nije ni probao igru, only on bench.
Dobro je da bar nisi gledao na YT i dosao da pljujes po igri.

Mene samo zanima koja tebi igra valja, a da je izasla posle 2000-te ?
 
Izvini ali gresis i to mnogo. 4-5 sati gledanja nije isto sto i preci sam celu igru. Delimicno si u pravu za neke stvari ali samo delimicno. I naravno da necu da citam nista sa metacritica jer mi taj sajt ne znaci nista, vise cenim svoje misljenje jer sam mogao i ja da napisem korisnicki tekst. Ustvari jedini review ove igre koji sam odgledao je GT review.
 
Stvarno nano.tube, gde god sam pogledao svi su odusevljeni igrom, malo manje hiper-linkovanja i hejtovanja, malo vise igranja.. 😉
 
4-5 sati gledanja nije isto sto i preci sam celu igru.

Znam, samo kažem na osnovu onoga što sam video do sad.

Mene samo zanima koja tebi igra valja, a da je izasla posle 2000-te ?

Ako ti smetaju moji postovi iz bilo kog razloga, slobodan si da ih ignorišeš.

Stvarno nano.tube, gde god sam pogledao svi su odusevljeni igrom, malo manje hiper-linkovanja i hejtovanja, malo vise igranja.. 😉

I HR (kao i mnoge druge igre) je dobila visoke ocene, a ta igra je katastrofa po skoro svakom pitanju za one koji su igrali iole dobre igre i gledali iole dobre serije/filmove ili čitali knjige sa sličnom tematikom. Čak su i CSI epizode mnogo bolje napisane. Problem je što Cage ima prevelik ego i poredi svoj rad sa Šejkspirovim, Kjubrikovim i Finčerovim. Dovoljan je ovaj intervju da se vidi koliko je loš pisac/režiser. Još je pomešao termine MacGuffin i red herring, što su osnovne stvari.
 
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Ne kapiram, pominjes metacritic a tamo je ukupna ocena 89/100
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/la-noire
Valjda shvatas da je to fantasticna ocena?

Btw igru nisam gledao kod ortaka vec je igram kod kuce i meni se svidja, al to je subjektivno ali koliko vidim metacritic nisam u tome usamljen.
 
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