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Kako je to puklo, pobogu? :S:
 
Izgleda da su na nove batcheve poceli stavljati super lepak. :d
 
kako je pukao niko ne zna, zna se da ima vec par ljudi sa puknutim cipom, najverovatnije kad su vratili ihs pretegli su heatsink i to je to.
nije se odmah desilo nego posle mesec dana koriscenja
 
Čoveče, ne mogu da verujem da je puklo, ti baš imaš peh za pehovima.

Pa kakve sad planove oko overkloka imaš, Kikibbgd ? Koliko vidim, posle ovog lošeg iskustva nešto ti se ne da da ponovo ideš istim putem, jesam li pogodio ?
 
@ Kosta
Nije to njegov cpu....to verovatno shabani direktno shibaju kulere na die,zato se i desava da pukne,mozda ne odmah,ali prilikom nekog duzeg zagrevanja samog die-a,verovatno sam materijal od cega je napravljen se drugacije pocne ponasati pa pukne.....i ja sam cuo za taj EK blok-kit sta vec,koji ide direktno na die,tu nema dileme,najbolja varijanta,i nemas brige da ces nesto *******,jer je verovatno sve odradjeno precizno u stoti deo milimetra....naravno,pod uslovom da imas vodeno :)
 
nisam ja u pitanju, to sam izvukao sa neta,
btw procesor i ploca koje sam poslao na servis rade, njihovo objasnjenje je glitch u beta biosu ploce koji sam koristio. tako da dusmaniiii .... :d

sto se tice OC-a za sad sve na stock-u, videcemo kako sta dalje, procesor moze stabilno na x46 sa 1.3v prime 6h
 
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Jesi li ti skalpirao CPU? AKo jesi i sad ide 4,6Ghz, kliko je mogao pre skalpiranja?
 
prvi cpu sam skalpirao i bio je djubre primerak (x46 na 1.37v)

ovaj sada sto imam ide na 1.3v stabilno x46(moze to bolje samo da nadjem vremena da se poigram sa njim) nije skalpiran, mislim i ovaj je djubre primerak.
sve sto je iznad 1.25v za x46 stabilno je +- djubre :d

drugar je narucio 2 4770k, nadam se da ce on imati vise srece

edit:
skalpiranjem mozes samo temperaturu da smanjis sto ce ti omoguciti da guras vise voltaze, ako je djubre cpu nece ti nista pomoci. sve je ok do 1.4v to je bar moja granica.

vecina haswella preko x46 su gladna voltaze to znaci skokovi za 0.05 samo da bi postovao. a za stabilnost jos i vise
dobri primerci idu do x48-x50 a posle ista prica



Intel i7 4771 Benchmark
 
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ovo je qoute sa jedong od forum-a koristan info

Well Good morning peoples!

Anyways sorry I've been gone for a bit, still trying to get my comp running and getting pretty peed about it. Anyways...

I have had many discussions with managers at Intel about the reasoning behind the TIM instead of solder like sandy bridge. Stig said it was because that they were cracking the dies and killing them. He is completely correct, they said for some reason with the high to low load tranfers of heat that the die would slowly crack over time.

I asked then why the reasoning for some much glue to hold down the IHS. They said it was because with the fluxless soldering on sandy bridge it actually helped hold the IHS on. Which makes sense because if you ever watch a delidding of a sandy bridge and they torch them off they literally pop right off the die when the solder is warm enough. I bet you they were forced to use more glue as more of a precaution to keep these IHSs on for their customer "us" so that trying to takke off a big bulky heat sink and the latch can sometimes were at the bond in the glue and make the IHS simply come off.

Im actually impressed Intel went to so much trouble think about it. They would have had to completely redo their assembly lines and manufacturing processs to make their product perfectly usable. An as a business major that's perfect sense, as you have limited time to redo your process and give enough of these out to sonsumers before the launch. You have to give them credit for that.

The grey "goop" TIM they used is pretty good I've found it once a while back and I need to try it.

Now with the newer ivye chips and the fluxless soldering on those bad boys.

1. Different socket different die size.
2. Die must be bigger to take the 2011 motherboards orders and such including twice the ammount of RAM as its 1155 brother.
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I have had many discussions with managers at Intel about the reasoning behind the TIM instead of solder like sandy bridge. Stig said it was because that they were cracking the dies and killing them. He is completely correct, they said for some reason with the high to low load tranfers of heat that the die would slowly crack over time.
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Kako to da je IB-E imun na ove probleme? Logicno bi bilo da koriste isti TIM metod i na IB-E procesorima posto je mnogo veca steta ako skuplji die "napukne".
 
verovatno je drugaciji die, i bilo bi glupo da na procesoru od 500e koriste isti fazon
 
Slazem se, bilo bi glupo to raditi na IB-E, ali je isto glupo sto koriste pticiji izmet na procesorima od 300e. :) Da su koristili neku bolju termalnu zvaku/pastu, ne bih imao primedbe.
Tako da ono gore citirano je samo polovican izgovor Intel-a.
 
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Sendi je i dalje keva, kako stvari stoje :d
 
ta termalna paste je dobra i moze se porediti sa mx4, naravno ako poredis mx4 i clu da je mx4 los.
anandtech je testirao negde ne mogu sad iskopam glavni problem je odstojanje procesora od ihs-a zato je temperatura visoka.

ko je kupio sb-e na pocetku on je najbolje prosao

evo neke mere
oko debljina itd
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Kako lazu, pa to je cudo jedno. Da pucaju jezgra, mislim... neverovatna kolicina oholosti. Namerno su stavili zvaku da ne bi sa CPU-om od 200eur dostigli uz OC na 4,7-4,8Ghz performanse procesora od 500eur (6 jezgara na staroj Sandy bridge arhitekturi). Sta misle da ce me to naterati da dam 500eur za gov*nce staro 3 godine sa njegovih 6 jezgara??? Slepci.
 
to da muljaju stoji, no kad ce tebi stigne haswell bas me zanima kakav je spacemasterov primerak :) mozda ja pazarim kod njega kad budem dolazio za koju nedelju :)
 
Procesor je kod mene, ploca stize tek sutra.

Batch#: L311B662
 
ajmo sad jedan lol iz rma Intela
Allan: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Chat Support service. We are glad to be of service. How may I help you?
Jonathan Puhl: hello!
Allan: hi
Jonathan Puhl: I have a heck of a problem with my cpu
Jonathan Puhl: I have an issue with my cpu
Jonathan Puhl: woop[s
Allan: what is the processor model?
Jonathan Puhl: 3770K
Allan: ok, how may I help?
Jonathan Puhl: I have spent the last month and 800 dollars to diagnose my issue with booting into windows and it sadly points to my processor
Jonathan Puhl: but it boots fine through bios with no errors but i can't make it into any OS or reinstall my w7
Allan: what is the motherboard model number?
Allan: and memory speed or part number>
Allan: ?
Jonathan Puhl: i have 2 motherboards i've tried this on
Jonathan Puhl: the p8z77-v premium
Jonathan Puhl: and maximus V gene
Jonathan Puhl: 1600 mhz memory as well
Allan: what would you like to do with the processor? I can offer warranty for it since this is covered for 3 years
Jonathan Puhl: how long would it take to get a replacement through you guys though?
Jonathan Puhl: im in a pretty tight time crunch
Allan: Please read our replacement process as follows:
Allan: you need to send the processor back to us, as soon as we receive it, we will release the new item and the estimated delivery time will be approximately 7 - 10 business days. Product returned with Physical Damage (damage to the product due to external causes) will be returned as received
Allan: or the other option is cross ship it
Allan: For urgent part replacements, we offer the Cross Ship option "depending on our inventory", we will ship the part first, then you can return the defective part in the same box, with the prepaid label that will be included.
Allan: This procedure has a non-refundable cost of $25.
Allan: Once we gather CC information we will charge the total amount price of the processor and the shipping cost. Once we receive your processor back we will refund the cost of the processor
Jonathan Puhl: hmmm
Jonathan Puhl: how many days does cross shippign take usually?
Jonathan Puhl: 7 days area liek normal?
Allan: If I place the order for cross ship, Intel will ship the processor next business day
Jonathan Puhl: how long will it take to get to me though?
Allan: by tomorrow afternoon you will get it or Wednesday morning.. For sure is next business day
Jonathan Puhl: wow thats pretty crazy shipping actually
Jonathan Puhl: I have another question
Allan: sure
Jonathan Puhl: a buudy of somone I know is curious about being able to send in a Delidded Ivy bridge I believe a 3570K
Jonathan Puhl: the IHS is all normal with information on it and he can glue the IHS back on no problem
Jonathan Puhl: would you guys take those?
Allan: if the processor 3570k is under warranty, Intel will replace it.
Allan: But bear in mind, it's one processor per order
Jonathan Puhl: even with the IHS being taken off and put back on?
Allan: yes, that is no problem, actually, if you send in the 3770k, you need to pull it out to read off the markings
Jonathan Puhl: actually
Jonathan Puhl: i have the IHS near me
Allan: with processor markings engraved on it, we validate the warranty
Jonathan Puhl: thats amazing
Allan: ok, in order to setup the RMA, I need complete processor information, this is located on the metal surface from top to bottom.
Jonathan Puhl: do you need the 4 digit code loccated ont eh PCb?
Allan: yes, that is correct.. I need every line on the processor
Jonathan Puhl: that bottom line I don't have as it's in my comp but i can come back later and set this up
Allan: sure, that's no problem
Allan: see here to check how the processor marking looks like
Allan: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-030330.htm
Allan: please take note of your service ticket number. This will serve as the reference number for your inquiry today 8000751148
Jonathan Puhl: thank you very much Allan I really appreciate this, I will gett he information you need and Glue the IHS back ona dn get it ready for you guys
Jonathan Puhl: i ahve the referance number thanks
Allan: you are welcome.
Jonathan Puhl: One quick question I have for you guys
Allan: yes
Jonathan Puhl: I have seen 2 accounts of cracked dies on 4770K's
Jonathan Puhl: any idea why that might have occured?
Jonathan Puhl: they delidded their cpus and then they were running and then it stopped workign and the dies were cracked?
Allan: cracked as an "damage"
Allan: ?
Jonathan Puhl: yes they have a hairline crack int he die itself
Jonathan Puhl: the cpu's wont run or post
Allan: for that, Intel will request some pictures before replacing the unit. there is an inspection before approving any RMA
Jonathan Puhl: here i can link you a picture
Allan: This type of damage is not covered under warranty, that is why we need pictures
Jonathan Puhl: exactly
Jonathan Puhl: http://www.overclock.net/t/1417554/killed-my-4770k
Allan: please send the picture at *****************************
Jonathan Puhl: I will pass forward that information to them
Allan: sure
Jonathan Puhl: thank you so much for the help Allan. If there is a ratig I can do after this i'd be more than happy
Allan: sure, thanks
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sigla nova igracka L313B996, ce da vidimo veceras jel zlatan ili ide u djubre
 
Dve paste na raspolaganju. Prolimatech PK-2 i Noctua NH-T1. Na ovom testu nadjoh da je PK-1 1C bolja od Noctua NH-T1. A na jednom "user review-u" nadjoh poredjenje PK-1, PK-2 i PK-3 gde je PK-2 bolja 1C od PK-1, a PK-3 3-4C bolja od PK-1.
Mislio sam onda da stavim PK-2 jer ocigledno moze biti ili isto kao Noctua NH-T1 ili do 2 C bolje. Cooler je Noctua NH-D14 S2011 sa adapter kit-om NM-I3. Promenio sam i one nosace na samom telu coolera jer su opruge za S2011 ocigledno i nesto vece i oko 2x jace na probanje rukom. Bice da je to zato sto se kod S2011 cooler steze na metalni okvir procesora i ne prenosi veliku silu na plocu, dok kod S1155/1156/1150 ide na nosac koji se srafi kroz plocu. Probacu, pa ako mi se ucine slabe opruge vraticu one sa S2011, vec prema utisku prilikom montaze. Nadam se da procesor nece ici na 100C sa ovom kombinacijom uz 1,2V i 4,2-4,3Ghz.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-January-2012/1468/5
 
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Samo rokaj. Cekamo dalji razvoj situacije :)
 
pazi ako budes drndao linx i ibt ici ce ako ti je to normalno koriscenje kompa za svaki dan onda predlazem bolnicko lecenje :D

tako da zaobidji te aplikacije za test.

testiraj u onim sto ces koristiti svakodnevno.
naravno ne skodi 6h prime-a :)
 
Teracu prime 95 onaj poslednji celu noc da budem siguran da je OK.
 
poslednji je sa avxom ako se ne varam, mozes lakse proci tipa aida fpu (sad ce me spale na lomaci) :d
 
Za septembar je najavljen početak prodaje i3 haswell procesora. Dali neko zna koliko je posle toga potrebno da se pojave i kod naših uvoznika?
 
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