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Taman da se istreses za nesto manje od 2 godine kad padne nagrada. xaxa
 
jes, samo da ne bude ko sa shitkoinima pri polovljenu da se prepolove pored nagrade i diff i cena :D
 
mige je napisao(la):
Taman da se istreses za nesto manje od 2 godine kad padne nagrada. xaxa
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Cekacu i toliko ako bude bilo potrebno ;)

demios je napisao(la):
jes, samo da ne bude ko sa shitkoinima pri polovljenu da se prepolove pored nagrade i diff i cena :D
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Toga se bojim ;)

[SAJ]ber Kurajber je napisao(la):
Boli te uvo, prodao si po 48$, nemoj sad da ti je zao. Samo opusteno, sve ce to da se pozlati ;)
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Jesam po 48$ ali samo 50 komada :)
 
Kad li ce neka menjacnica da uvede proracun prosecne kupovne cene za one koji se bave samo trgovinom?
 
Neko ko se predtsvalja da je iz srbije, trenutno daje na uvid razgovore Mark K. sa bankama kao i uskoro poverljiva dokumenta...
nick mu je nanashi____

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Tvrdi da je cela baza podataka sa dokumentima ukradena, mada jos nije obajvljena...
 
Poslednja izmena:
https://www.mtgox.com/

i dalje im je bug kriv...

ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR COMMENCEMENT OF A PROCEDURE OF CIVIL REHABILITATION

MtGox Co., Ltd. made today an application for commencement of a procedure of civil rehabilitation (minji saisei) at the Tokyo District Court. This application was accepted on the same day. Further, MtGox Co., Ltd is under several orders issued by the Court : a preservative order prohibiting it from paying its debts, transferring its assets or establishing security over its assets, an order establishing a comprehensive prohibition of forced attachment of its assets by its creditors and a supervisory order ordering supervision by a supervisory committee. In consequence, MtGox hereby informs you as follows.
We first express our most sincere regrets and apologies for this situation and for causing so much inconvenience to all our users and other interested parties. We will fully respect the above orders and maintain our assets with all the necessary care.

Financial situation, reasons and timeline leading to this application
(1) As of now, the liabilities of MtGox Co., Ltd exceed its assets and its financial situation is as follows:

Total amount of assets 3,841,866,163
Total amount of current liabilities 6,501,119,371
(2) The increase of current liabilities may be linked to a loss of bitcoins and customer funds. These are now investigated by an expert and all efforts are made to discover the truth. This application was prompted by the following troubles:

At the start of February 2014, illegal access through the abuse of a bug in the bitcoin system resulted in an increase in incomplete bitcoin transfer transactions and we discovered that there was a possibility that bitcoins had been illicitly moved through the abuse of this bug.
As a result of our internal investigation, we found that a large amount of bitcoins had disappeared. Although the complete extent is not yet known, we found that approximately 750,000 bitcoins deposited by users and approximately 100,000 bitcoins belonging to us had disappeared.
We believe that there is a high probability that these bitcoins were stolen as a result of an abuse of this bug and we have asked an expert to look at the possibility of a criminal complaint and undertake proper procedures.
On the same day (24th), we found out large discrepancies between the amount of cash held in financial institutions and the amount deposited from our users. The amounts are still under investigation and may vary but they approximate JPY 2.8 billion.
We are investigating the causes of these problems. Since there are probably a variety of causes including hacking by third parties, we need to investigate a huge amount of transaction reports in order to establish the truth. As of this date, we cannot confirm the exact amount of missing deposit funds and the total amount of bitcoins which disappeared.
Once we discovered that bitcoins had disappeared and the discrepancies between cash funds and deposit balances, we judged that it would be difficult to continue our activities normally and we therefore closed our site at noon on the 25th (Japan time).

(3) Regarding the filing of a complaint or damages report, an expert has been mandated and investigations have started. We will make all efforts to ensure that crimes are punished and damages recovered.
Further we will fully cooperate with inquiries from authorities and investigations related to this matter, in Japan or overseas.

In order to increase repayments to our creditors, it is necessary to explore the possibility of having MtGox Co., Ltd. continue its business. This is why the civil rehabilitation procedure has been chosen, Rebuilding MtGox Co., Ltd under the supervision of the court in a legally organized procedure while giving proper explanations will not be for the sole benefit of the company but for that of the whole bitcoin community.
All efforts will now be made to restore the business and recover damages to repay debts to creditors. We hope for the understanding and cooperation of all.

Outline of the application
(1) Application date February 28, 2014
(2) Jurisdiction Tokyo District Court
(3) Counsel of applicant
Baker & McKenzie (Gaikokuho Joint Enterprise)
Attorney-at-law Junko Suetomi
Attorney-at-law Yamamoto Hideyuki
Yodoyabashi & Yamagami Legal Professional Corporation
Attorney-at-law Akio Shinomiya
Attorney-at-law Kazumasa Kawai

(4) Supervisor Nagashima Ohno & Tsunematsu
Attorney-at-law Nobuaki Kobayashi
(5) Investigator idem
(6) Case no. 2014 (sai) 12Civil rehabilitation commencement application

Contact information
A call center has been established to respond to all inquiries. The call center is planned to start on March 3, 2014. All inquiries to MtGox Co., Ltd. should be made to the following telephone number:
Telephone number +81 3-4588-3921
Working hours Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm (Japan time)

Please refrain from contacting the office of the supervisor/investigator.
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Poslednja izmena:
Krele..kao da mu neko rekao Unisti bitcoin a sve ove pare na berzi ostaju tebi
 
Kupujem 10-20 LCT-a ponude na PM.
 
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zeljko je napisao(la):
Neko ko se predtsvalja da je iz srbije, trenutno daje na uvid razgovore Mark K. sa bankama kao i uskoro poverljiva dokumenta...
nick mu je nanashi____

Bice tu svasta

Tvrdi da je cela baza podataka sa dokumentima ukradena, mada jos nije obajvljena...
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Samo je jos to trebalo, da se BTC nakon pojmova kao sto su: nestabilnost, nesigurnost, neizvesnost, kriminal, mogucnost kradje zbog neadekvatne sigurnosti celog koncepta, sad jos dovede i u konekciju sa Srbijom.

Kao da neko bira sve ono sto bi u umu prosecnog konzumenta vesti moglo najvise da ga udalji i od primisli da se zainteresuje za BTC, prosto kao da se zeli BTC saseci u korenu jednom za sva vremena dovodjenjem u vezu sa svim onim sto je najvise prokazeno i nepozeljno.

Stvarno nikad nisam bio veci pesimista nego sad, pocinjem da verujem da zaista Gox i nije kriv(ili bar ne najveci krivac) u ovoj prici nego da zaista BTC ima tu konstrukcionu gresku koja je neotklonjiva i da se ceo koncept morati da se ukida kao nesiguran, bukvalno dekretom.

A potmula grmljavina panic sell-a vec moze da se namirise i u vazduhu.
 
tiptop je napisao(la):
izgleda su neke dobre vesti na pomolu... cena ide gore
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cenu vuce neko sa stmpa, non stop gura buy wall ka gore.. videcemo kad to skloni kako i dal ce cena da sljosne
koliko ja pratim, potrosio je oko 2000-2500 btc-a da bi odrzao buy wall, ostalo mu je oko 1000 na ceni 602 trenutno
 
iz MtGox najnovije izjave:"...On the same day (24th), we found out large discrepancies between the amount of cash held in financial institutions and the amount deposited from our users. The amounts are still under investigation and may vary but they approximate JPY 2.8 billion...."

upravo ono sto sve vreme tvrdim a vi pokusavate da me razuverite, sta se desava kad veca kolicina novca odlazi sa racuna u odnosu na onu koja dolazi? Naravno da je MtGox amaterski implementirao sve i da je krivica u potpunosti njihova :) A uopste me ne bi zacudilo da je neki nas ili strani haker, "naplatio" cekanje na svoj novac direktno u BTC, koristeci bug, ali u MtGox sistemu ;)
 
cacanin je napisao(la):
Ja se natovario na 25$ :(
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Ja na 22 za skoro 35000 dolara :S:

Imam sada ideju da po ovoj niskoj ceni kupim još (sveeee, aaaaaa), time bih smanjio prosečnu cenu po kojoj sam kupio :)
nemam pojma šta da radim, menjam mišljenje svaki minut.

U principu vama koji ste iskopali par hiljada ltc-a ili par stotina manje više sve jedno, a nama trgovcima koji su za cash kupili sve baš i nije. :crash:
 
reboot je napisao(la):
Ja na 22 za skoro 35000 dolara :S:

Imam sada ideju da po ovoj niskoj ceni kupim još (sveeee, aaaaaa), time bih smanjio prosečnu cenu po kojoj sam kupio :)
nemam pojma šta da radim, menjam mišljenje svaki minut.

U principu vama koji ste iskopali par hiljada ltc-a ili par stotina manje više sve jedno, a nama trgovcima koji su za cash kupili sve baš i nije. :crash:
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Znas kako to ide...nikom nije svejedno. Jednom kad vidis cenu od 48+ $, dok ne bude veca imas osecaj kao da si izgubio pare...Bas kao i ti koji si kupio za 35K. Samo je pitanje da li imas mogucnosti da cekas i koliko zelis da zaradis u nekom, tebi prihvatljivom roku.
 
E baš ta cena izgleda sad neverovatno :)...baš smo ludi što nismo (mislim na one koji su nisu, neko jeste sigurno :)) prodali većinu na toj ceni. Sad btc po ovom odnosu ltc/btc treba da bude 2000$ da bude ltc opet 48$...možda i bude ali za godinu-dve :D
 
Ltc je imao veci rast nego btc, tj odnos je bio 0.05 u peaku ... Uglavnom, lakse ce da skoci do tih 50$ sa sadasnjih lupam 10$ (zavisi gde ce da bude dno) nego sa onih 2$.
 
MarkoNS je napisao(la):
upravo ono sto sve vreme tvrdim a vi pokusavate da me razuverite, sta se desava kad veca kolicina novca odlazi sa racuna u odnosu na onu koja dolazi? Naravno da je MtGox amaterski implementirao sve i da je krivica u potpunosti njihova :) A uopste me ne bi zacudilo da je neki nas ili strani haker, "naplatio" cekanje na svoj novac direktno u BTC, koristeci bug, ali u MtGox sistemu ;)
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Svi dolari na jednoj menjacnici (podrazumeva se da ista ne krade) su realan i uplacen novac na racun, i ne moze da ga nema il da nestane... Ne moze menjacnica otici u minus ako normalno funkcionise jer se trgovina obavlja realnim fiatom.
 
^ Gox nije banka nego berza, ne izdaju oni kredite nego vrse razmenu. Lepo kaze Kurt, sav novac i BTC bi morao uvek da bude dostupan za povlacenje s berze.
 
lepo je to što imaš tako idealistički pogled na svet :)
 
marco89 je napisao(la):
^ Gox nije banka nego berza, ne izdaju oni kredite nego vrse razmenu. Lepo kaze Kurt, sav novac i BTC bi morao uvek da bude dostupan za povlacenje s berze.
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pod uslovom da ne krade berza ili ih ne kradu.

A onda je i MarkoNS u pravu kad ih zove lopužama sve vreme ili *****ima. (ili ne isključuje i)
 
gox je godinama "gojio" sve redom, ponajvishe krupne ribe, kasnije navatavao i sicu sa 10% vishom cenom...i posle...dje ba ono nestalo :D
 
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