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Nvidia G70 Ultra cancelled

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http://theinquirer.net/?article=25949

Nvidia G70 ultra would likely be very competitive to R520 XT but it would hurt G70, Geforce 7800 GTX sales and therefore Nvidia won't release it. So all of you who have been waiting for 7800 Ultra you can just forget about it.
 
ali zasto novi tred na temu G70?!
 
Sve sumnjam da je ovo istina. Ako ATi izbaci bilo sta sto je brze od GTX-a, a nVidia ima u rukavu Ultru, sve sumnjam da bi radije prepustila vodjstvo ATi-ju nego da malo ugrozi prodaju GTX-a.
Ovo mi se cini kao namerna dezinformacija da se zbuni ATi.
 
ma procenili su da r520 moze da im pljune pod prozor pa nece da se smaraju....
 
nek se oni bace na slabije kartice iz sedme genedacije, a GTX je sasvim dovoljno jak za one koji imaju para da ga plate....
 
R520 će sigurno biti "brži" od G70,mislim bilo bi glupo izbaciti karticu mjesecima kasnije a da nije brža.
E sad koliko će koštati,dali će to biti samo na papiru,što je Atijev običaj.Znači,koliko će biti moguće kupiti R520 XT?
Nvidija zna da Ati ima problema,pa se i ponaša ovako.
 
Ja takodje mislim da ce R520 biti brzi od G70, ali nista drasticno, narocito ne toliko brzi koliko je zakasnio u odnosu na nVidiu.

VRZone kaze:
Interestingly, there are 16, 24 and 32 pipes versions but there are only 10 pieces of the 32 pipes versions exist currently. The core clock of the card is 650Mhz+ and memory at 1400Mhz. The R520 card uses 1.26ns GDDR3 memories. The 32 pipes R520 performance will exceed the GeForce 7800GTX.

Ovo ima par neverovatnih nebuloza:
1. Ne kapiram kako se ATiju isplati da pravi tako komplikovano jezgro od kojeg je oooooogromna kolicna skart (ne rade mu 32 pipelinea). Cak i da je R520 konstruisan sa 32 pipelinea, prosto ne verujem da ovih deset primeraka stvarno postoje. Licno, mislim da su se ovde malo *****ali i da je R520 konstruisan da ima max. 24 pipelinea.

2. Kakve realne koristi mi imamo od toga sto kao fol postoji R520 sa 32 pipea koji je brzi od G70, ako postoje samo 10 komada na svetu?! Mislim, hvala bogu da je brzi, ima 8 pipeova vise i >200Mhz veci takt... Sta to treba da znaci? Da ce verzija sa 24 ili 16 pipeova biti sporija? Nije valjda da uspeva da nadmasi G70 tek sa 32 pipea?

Ova njihova vest je totalno konfuzna, ponovo uvode u pricu 32 pipea, mada mislim da od svega toga nece biti nista, i da ce R520 imati 16 pipeova, i kasnije eventualno 24.
 
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topuz je napisao(la):
Ja takodje mislim da ce R520 biti brzi od G70, ali nista drasticno, narocito ne toliko brzi koliko je zakasnio u odnosu na nVidiu.

To se podrazumijeva.


topuz je napisao(la):
VRZone kaze:
Interestingly, there are 16, 24 and 32 pipes versions but there are only 10 pieces of the 32 pipes versions exist currently. The core clock of the card is 650Mhz+ and memory at 1400Mhz. The R520 card uses 1.26ns GDDR3 memories. The 32 pipes R520 performance will exceed the GeForce 7800GTX.

Vidio sam ovaj članak prekjuče,i malo me nasmijao.
Još naziv ATI Radeon X1800. :wall:

topuz je napisao(la):
Ovo ima par neverovatnih nebuloza:
1. Ne kapiram kako se ATiju isplati da pravi tako komplikovano jezgro od kojeg je oooooogromna kolicna skart (ne rade mu 32 pipelinea). Cak i da je R520 konstruisan sa 32 pipelinea, prosto ne verujem da ovih deset primeraka stvarno postoje. Licno, mislim da su se ovde malo *****ali i da je R520 konstruisan da ima max. 24 pipelinea.

Daleko od toga da im se isplati praviti to jezgro,mislim da bi najradije voljeli da ga nisu ni počeli praviti.
Oni jednostavno nisu ništa naučili iz svojih pogrešaka,pa niti iz pogrešaka konkurencije.
 
Daleko od toga da im se isplati praviti to jezgro,mislim da bi najradije voljeli da ga nisu ni počeli praviti.

Khm, khm, FX5800 Ultra anyone?
 
vide li ti smajlije na kraju posta? :d
nemoj mi reci da si ih ozbiljno shvatio?! 😀
pa ko jos Zileta shvata ozbiljno?!?! 😛
 
kalky je napisao(la):
pa ko jos Zileta shvata ozbiljno?!?! 😛
ti koji ne smes svoj CPU i GPU da overklokujes nije mi jasno kako si uopste prosao registraciju na forumu 😛 😀


sta bi Ultra pa bila?
+40-50MHz na GPU i 1400MHz memorija???
bolje nek spreme odgovor na RV530!
 
Ser_Zile je napisao(la):
ti koji ne smes svoj CPU i GPU da overklokujes nije mi jasno kako si uopste prosao registraciju na forumu 😛 😀

zile, il' nabaci naocari il' porazmisli jos jedared 😛
 
kolko je vremenski potrebno da se G70 prebaci u 90nm?
ako bi to uradili i poterali GPU na ~550-600MHz + 1400MHz na memoriji onda bi imali Ultru.
 
I onda bi ATi bio u grdnim problemima. Ne verujem da ce se Ultra ako bude postojala pojaviti pre nove godine.
 
512MB GeForce 7800 'Ultra' on November 7?

Gibbo sa Overclockers UK-a odnekud izvuče informaciju o lansiranju 7800 GTX sa višim radnim taktovima,te sa 512Mb memorije.Karta bi trebala biti jeftinija od X1800 XT 512Mb koja se neće moći nabaviti do kraja Novembra.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/10/26/512mb_7800gtx_on_nov_7th/

Hi there

First of all some of you need to get a grip!! The fact is whether you like it or not both NVIDIA and ATI hold OcUK as their best bet for high-end sales this means they listen to myself closely as I am the PM within OcUK for graphics and make all the purchasing decisions. Plus I have in depth knowledge of hardware, especially graphics card afterall I used to be into the technology and overclocking big time some years back and the knowledge is never forgetton. Lets look back, I told you all the specifications of the R520 some months ago and was flamed and informed I was most probably incorrect yet as it turns out I was correct and within 50MHz to the actual clock speeds. How do I know such things is because both ATI and NVIDIA visit OcUK regular giving us information and gifts as they need their number ONE E-Tailor to be in the know of what is going on, hence why I have to sign several NDA's. However I do attempt to provide a service and information wherever possible to members on this forum. Now some people appreciate me giving information but as those in the know things change daily in this indsutry so specifications, availability and pricing can change on a daily basis. The ones who do have a moan are those who are either not in the know or are just been jealous, all I can say is get a grip, its computer hardware and there are far more important things in life...

Fact is if ATI had 1000's of X1800 XT's to go round then OcUK would be one of the cheapest in the UK on the X1800 XT's but the fact is ATI don't have the stock to go round and out of the incoming stock into the UK which will be a very small amount for November then we are certainly not going to give the stock away. If ATI get their act together and begin to ship 1000's then prices will drop, but at the moment ATI will not be shipping anywhere near those quantities until 2006 and Crossfire edition cards of R520 won't show until December.

Take a look at the facts:- 1. OcUK is the only stockist of HIS X1800 XL and with plenty in stock at a great low price on special offer this week.
2. We also have stock of both Sapphire and Connect3D X1800 XL in stock at competitive prices, no other Etailor can match our IN STOCK selection of X1800 XL!
3. OcUK will recieve more stock of X1800 XT than any other Etailor, we should also be first..... We would have been first on X1800 XL just the fact that our shipments got messed up badly and then got further held up in customs.
4. OcUK has given the best deals on NVIDIA cards, the BFG 7800 GT as low as £179+VAT and even now is £199+VAT for what is considered the best 7800 GT on the market with its lifetime warranty and higher than standard clock speeds. Were also competitive on all the other cards and were first and have always had good stock levels on the models.
5. OcUK was the only UK Etailor with stock of 7800 GTX on launch day from 4 different leading brands (BFG, Gigabyte, Leadtek & XFX) and have never been out of stock since launch day on product. Only one other competitor managed to have 1 brand in stock on day of launch, thats OcUK been the best again.
6. Sapphire GTO2's are only available from OcUK now I believe as we have had over 90% of the UK stock allocation and we were also first by nearly 2 weeks!!

Now regarding ATI and Crossfire solutions. OcUK does have the DFI Crossfire boards in stock, not sure if we are first or not but DFI seem to think that we are as Jeff Chen who is the MD of Europe direct shipped the stock to us and gave us most of it, maybe others have had small amounts but who knows. Regarding Sapphire Crossfire we could have had stock sooner but they aint exactly hugely popular so we turned down Sapphire and told them to ship stock via the usual methods as there was no rush, if they had been more sucessful we would have been first.

The fact is that this time round NVIDIA have completely destroyed ATI as SLi is so much better established and you don't need a master card for it to work. Plus the 7800 series is the far better buy and was available on June 22nd, ATI are still struggling and were now approaching November. On November 7th OcUK will be launch partner with NVIDIA on the new faster clocked 512MB 7800 GTX which will furth establish NVIDIA as performance leader and OcUK will have priority allocation on 512MB cards which could also mean we have exclusivity and unlike ATI NVIDIA will be shipping plenty of stock throughout November. So basically what is the point of ATI's X1800 XT, NVIDIA will have a better product with availability sooner and no doubt for less money too.

I keep screaming at ATI to get a move on as NVIDIA are kicking their asses and am doing my best to help/advice them and though ATI do listen NVIDIA listen better and are quicker to act. Its in the best interest for me and OcUK to sell both brands as were not biased towards either company but my honest opionion is that NVIDIA is the better buy, especially on the 7800 GT's. I am pushing ATI for a $50 price drop on the X1800 XL which will hopefully happen to make it more competitive against the 7800 GT and screaming for ATI to get more allocation and to get it here sooner on X1800 XT.

I can stop making post about what is going on in the industry and some will be accurate and some will not, though that highly depends on the time viewed. A statement made by me two weeks could be completely the opposite today and anyone with common sense would realise that in this market place a lot can happen/change in the space of 24 hours. If people can't accept this then I will just stop posting as it makes no difference to me and will give me more time to get on with my work. Its your loss and not mine.
 
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Karta bi trebala raditi na 550/1800,sa dual slot hlađenjem.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27368

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Ovo gore je leadtek 7800 gtx specijalno oc izdanje...
 
ovakvi su bili "obicni" gtx-ovi u novim dell XPS-ovima....
 
byMaX je napisao(la):
Ovo gore je leadtek 7800 gtx specijalno oc izdanje...

Protrljaj oci Maxo! NIje ono logo Leadteka na kuleru! BTW to na slici je Quadro! GTX 512MB ce imati takav kuler ali sa malo drugacijim aplikacijama na njemu 😉
 
Čista brutalika. I vizuelno i spiritualno kartica je preterana. Kako mi sad tužno deluje ATi-jevih 16 pajpova. Neda 'vidija da se predahne.
 
😀 "i vizuelno i spiritualno"!
Neko je bas ispriman na 'vidiju!? 😉
Poz
Nedjo
P.S
Jesi li barem drzao u ruci X1800XT?
 
Nedjo je napisao(la):
😀 "i vizuelno i spiritualno"!
Neko je bas ispriman na 'vidiju!? 😉
Poz
Nedjo
P.S
Jesi li barem drzao u ruci X1800XT?

Ne brini Nedjo kad ovu (7800GTX "keep away from children") budes drzao u ruci sve ce jeza da te podilazi :smoke: :d
 
byMaX je napisao(la):
Ovo gore je leadtek 7800 gtx specijalno oc izdanje...

Na slici je XFX-ov model koji će raditi na 580/1730.
 
topuz je napisao(la):
Sve sumnjam da je ovo istina. Ako ATi izbaci bilo sta sto je brze od GTX-a, a nVidia ima u rukavu Ultru, sve sumnjam da bi radije prepustila vodjstvo ATi-ju nego da malo ugrozi prodaju GTX-a.
Ovo mi se cini kao namerna dezinformacija da se zbuni ATi.

Nije da se hvalim, ali sta sam rekao jos pre dva meseca! ,)
Ova kartica ce da unese pometnju kakva se ne pojavljuje cesto. Stvarno ne znam kako Ati planira da odgovori ovom cudu.

Npr situacija: Q1 2006, ATi uspeva da izbaci r580 (koji ce izgleda opet imati 16 pajpova) i konacno uspe da konkurise GTX-u 512Mb. nVidia prebacuje G70 u 90nm i clockuje ga na preko 700Mhz. I sta onda?

Jednostavno, trenutno mi se cini da nVidia ima mogucnosti da napravi bolje od svega sto Ati moze da ponudi.
 
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