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Kućna multimedija Bubice

Koji TV, projektor, zvučnike, soundbar i ostale multimedijalne komponente kupiti?
Neki su mi rekli da su one JVC veoma dobre, međutim vidim da su pravljene za iPod i sl. tj. za Apple proizvode i za BlackBerry, pa ne znam da li bi radile ne mom Android telefonu, ima 3.5mm standardni 'jack' za slušalice. Hvala na savetu uzeću onda Sennheiser!!
 
Bas bedak sto vise ne mogu da koristim Xiaomi Piston. Posle nedelju dana koriscenja po sat ipo dnevno, probudim se i primetim da slabije cujem na desno uvo. Tokom dana se popravilo ali sam taj dan koristio klasicne bubice (ne in ear).
I rekoh sutra vec da se vratim na Piston, al evo danas opet slabije cujem na desno uvo. Cak ne slusam muziku nego podcastove na 30-40% snage. Kapiram da mi je ugurala usnu mast tamo gde ne treba.
Steta jer su mi potrebne da bih izolovao zvuk od saobracaja.
Dal je jos neko imao probleme sa in ear bubicama i kako ste resili?
 
Definitivno idi na ispiranje, neće ti škoditi. Ja moram par puta godišnje jer mi se nešto u vojsci s***balo. Ništa strašno. Inače ja koristim bubice više od 6 godina, nikad ništa.
AKo te zanima, ispiranje ništa ne boli :), a ima da čuješ boli glava :)!
 
Evo da se i ja javim.

Imam sennheiser bubice i jednom sam baš odvrnuo "volume", tako slušao par sati i počelo je uveče desno uvo da mi zuji i par puta sam se probudio po noći. Ujutro pravac ORL. Dala mi neke kapi za uši koje sam stavljao par dana i zvuk je skoro nestao. Sada samo ponekad osetim baš kada je potpuna tišina u sobi da mi malo zuji (gotovo neprimetno). Doktorka je rekla da dođem ako se nastavi i da će me dalje slati na preglede (valjda na Klinički). Nisu mi ispirali uvo. Ako hoćeš mogu da potražim u dokumentima šta mi je prepisala. Dok sam koristio te kapi rekla mi je da izbegavam za to vreme glasnu muziku (koncerte, bla, bla, bla...). Isto tako sama doktorka je protivnik tih in-ear slušalica. Evo stoje mi u sobi sluške od 50 evra i više ih ne koristim. Nekada burazer nosi sa sobom pa sluša preko fona muziku ali ja imam sada neku odbojnost, bojim se da se ne ponovi. A strašan sam "higijeničar". Svaku komponentu redovno brišem, tuširam se dva do tri puta na dan, koristim štapiće za uši, uvek je sve tip-top tako da mislim da nije od "prlljavštine".
 
Nije od prljavstine sigurno ali takodje nije naivna stvar gurati u usni kanal bilo sta pa i silikon od slusalica.
Ne kazem da in ear sigurno vode u probleme nego ipak direktno guramo izvor zvuka tako blizu bubne opne.
Naucio sam da nisu za mene kao i ti makiacaveki. Postoje drugi tipovi slusalica za nas.
Ja 3 godine koristim sennheiser mx471 koje nisu in ear i nikad mi se nije desilo da sledeci dan slabije cujem, i zadovoljan sam jedino sto ne izoluju spoljasni zvuk nikako.
 
Mislim da ne treba da se plašite in ear slušalica. Kao što sam pisao, godinama ih koristim, dosta glasno, tako volim i nikad mi ništa nije bilo. Doduše meni po nekad zuji u ušima ali zbog pritiska :), pa sam navikao.

NEGO, stigli su mi vrhovi za bubice od memorijske pene koje sam kupio probe radi, bile su jako skupe, 3 dolara za 5 PARI, medium, plave :). I mogu Vam reći da izoluju fantastično. Imam vrv već znate akg k324p, koje imaju jako dobre gumice, ali ova pena je zakon. Sutra probam u busu do posla pa ću javiti. Za sad probao u sobi, sin se drao iz sve snage dok sam slušao Gary Moore-a, ma ništa ga nisam čuo.
 
Za to ćeš da nam daš link? :)
 
Bas bedak sto vise ne mogu da koristim Xiaomi Piston. Posle nedelju dana koriscenja po sat ipo dnevno, probudim se i primetim da slabije cujem na desno uvo. Tokom dana se popravilo ali sam taj dan koristio klasicne bubice (ne in ear).
I rekoh sutra vec da se vratim na Piston, al evo danas opet slabije cujem na desno uvo. Cak ne slusam muziku nego podcastove na 30-40% snage. Kapiram da mi je ugurala usnu mast tamo gde ne treba.
Steta jer su mi potrebne da bih izolovao zvuk od saobracaja.
Dal je jos neko imao probleme sa in ear bubicama i kako ste resili?

Imao sam ja slicnih iskustava. Pre svega slusanje glasne muzike u periodu od preko 10 minuta treba izbegavati! One sa basom pre svega. Zatim i poluotvorene i otvorene slusalice su zbog pritiska pogodnije od zatvorenih. Bubice naravno ne treba gurati do kraja itd. Mada je mnogo faktora tu zavisno od pojedinca. Jos par stvari, cerumen se luci i da bi zastitio bubnu opnu od nadrzaja odnosno zbog tih nepozeljnih nadrzaja... uglavnom kada se cisti usni kanal ne treba nabijati stapic do kraja nikako, tj ne u dubinu... Za ispiranje postoje takodje i tecnosti za samostalno ispiranje ali su manuelne tehnike uklanjanja uz pomoc instrumenata link najdelotvornije a pruzaju i mogucnost inspekcije tkiva... ukoliko posetis ORL-a.
Ako ti se vec desava da osetno gubis sluh na jednom uvetu ja bih ti preporucio da posetis specijalistu koji bi te pregledao, dakle klinicki pregled i testiranje sluha.

Ako je problem cerumen on se resava samo redovnim uklanjanjem i pridrzavanjem pravila oko ciscenja, dakle ne cistiti previse duboko (to pospesuje njegovo lucenje takodje) i ispirati redovno.
 
Nije od prljavstine sigurno ali takodje nije naivna stvar gurati u usni kanal bilo sta pa i silikon od slusalica.
Ne kazem da in ear sigurno vode u probleme nego ipak direktno guramo izvor zvuka tako blizu bubne opne.
Naucio sam da nisu za mene kao i ti makiacaveki. Postoje drugi tipovi slusalica za nas.
Ja 3 godine koristim sennheiser mx471 koje nisu in ear i nikad mi se nije desilo da sledeci dan slabije cujem, i zadovoljan sam jedino sto ne izoluju spoljasni zvuk nikako.

Da nisi imao skoro neku prehladu? Ja sam poslednjeg puta za vreme prehlade bio polu-gluv.
 
Ja sam imao neke probleme sa ušima kada sam koristio in-ear bubice. Znači prvo svrbucka, pa žulja, pa glavobolja pa mi čini mi se celaglava vibrirala :) Užas koliko mi ne prijaju. I onda sam se vratio na obične bubice, stare dobre Sennheiser MX880 koje obožavam i kupio sam jedno 5 pari da se nađe :)
 
Zaboravio sam da kažem da sam testirao sluh u nekoj kabini na ORL-u, ta kabina kao da je pravljena pre dvesta godina, nabacili mi sluške, sa druge strane mi puštali neke zvukove i ja trebam da pritisnem dugme kada čujem zvuk (slično kao na vozačkom) i rekli su mi da čujem kako treba, sve zvukove sam čuo i brzo odreagovao. Samo je ostao taj problem da nekada čujem blago pištanje pre spavanja. Evo sinoć sam baš obratio pažnju i ništa nisam čuo da pišti.
 
Proveri pritisak, ne zezam se.
 
Proverio sam i u redu je. Imamo kući aparat za merenje pritiska.

Edit: Problem je nastao baš tog dana kada sam koristio bubice.
 
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^ a sta kazes za ovo :) http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-320-iems-compared-xiaomi-piston-2-added-08-21-14-p-958

Evo dodali su test Xiaomi Piston 2, kopiracu spoiler (ukratko - ocena za zvuk 8,1/10, za te pare to je vise nego odlicno 10/10 njihova Value ocena a ovaj test nije pisao bilo ko nego lik sa head fi koji je probao hiljade slusalica)

Pros: Fantastic sound quality for the price; 3-button Android remote; many usability improvements over Piston 1.0
Cons: Wide housings not ideal for small ears; flimsy stock tips; mediocre isolation


Details: 2nd generation of China-based Xioami’s popular Piston earphones, called the 2.0 or 2.1 depending on included accessories
MSRP: approx. $16 (manufacturer’s page)
Current Price: $25 from Amazon.com (note: due to abundance of fakes, exercise caution when purchasing the Piston. There are legitimate eBay sellers, such as bigbargainsonline, but if a deal seems too good to be true it probably is)
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: <=16Ω | Sens: 93 dB | Freq: 20-20k Hz | Cable: 3.9′ I-plug with mic & 3-button Android remote (still has limited functionality with other devices)
Nozzle Size: 5mm | Preferred tips: MEElec M6 single-flanges, Generic single-flanges
Wear Style: Straight down or over-the-ear (preferred)

Accessories (3/5) – Single-flange silicone tips (3 sizes); plastic box doubles as storage case with integrated cable wrap (Note: newer 2.1/IF version comes with updated eartips and adds a shirt clip)
Build Quality (3.5/5) – The finely-ridged aluminum housings of the Piston 2 are a magnet for grime but the build is solid, with ample strain relief all around. There are many design improvements compared to the original Piston – the L/R markings are easier to see, there is virtually no driver flex, and the cable is no longer cloth-sheathed above the y-split, which makes the Piston 2 less tangle-prone and reduces cable noise
Isolation (2.5/5) – Average, about the same as with the original Piston despite the addition of a large rear vent on the Piston 2
Microphonics (3.5/5) – Bothersome when worn cable-down but much better compared to the original Piston; good with over-the-ear wear
Comfort (3/5) – The housings of the Piston are rather wide and remind me of the LG Quadbeat. They have squared-off edges at the front, which may create pressure points for those with small outer ears. The Piston can be worn both cable-down and cable-up, for which the positioning of the microphone/remote at the Y-split is perfect

Sound (8.1/10) – The Xiaomi Piston 2 makes all the right steps forward compared to the first-generation Piston, tightening up the bass response and clearing up the mids. The low end of the Piston 2 is slightly boomy, but without comparing it to a tighter-sounding earphone – which generally means one that is either much more expensive or much lighter in the bass department – it’s really not that noticeable.

The Piston 2 features enhanced bass, delivering both good extension and strong mid-bass presence. It is similar to the Sony MH1C and the pricier RHA MA750 in overall bass quantity, though both of those place a bit less weight on mid-bass. The extra mid-bass emphasis of the Piston 2 – which still pales in comparison to that of the original Piston – gives it a very visceral punch. When comparing the Piston 2 to higher-end earphones, it can be hard to get over the difference in bass control, but against similarly-priced sets it continuously impresses.

The bass of the Piston 2 grants it a warm tone and full-bodied sound. Overall, while the Piston 2 is a v-shaped earphone, the fullness prevents its midrange from sounding overly recessed. Clarity is good considering the bass quantity – even earphones with significantly more forward mids, such as the Fidue A63 and T-Peos D200R, don’t have a clarity advantage over the Piston 2. The only ones that do are brighter, thinner (and also harsher)-sounding sets with more recessed lower mids, for example the Philips TX2, MOE-SS01, and T-Peos Rich200.

The Piston 2 is not your typical v-shaped earphone in one other way – its upper midrange and treble are surprisingly smooth and refined. The top end has some sparkle, but is still sufficiently forgiving. Maybe not as much as the Sony MH1C, Fidue A63, and HiFiMan RE-400, which all have more laid-back treble, but more than a $25 earphone should be. Tonally, the Piston 2 can’t even be called “bright”, though it does have a little more treble energy than the Sony MH1C. Ditto on the T-Peos D200R – the Piston 2 has more of both sparkle and upper treble presence, which gives it an airier sound.

Thanks to its ample treble presence and generally good clarity, the Piston 2 has a wide and open presentation. It is similar in soundstage size to the brighter-sounding MOE-SS01 and superior to sets such as the SteelSeries Flux and T-Peos D200R. At the same time, the presentation has good depth and is capable of sounding quite forward when necessary. The Sony MH1C, for example, has a pretty good soundstage but sounds consistently laid-back compared to the Piston 2.

Select Comparisons

Xiaomi Piston 1.0 (discontinued)

Xiaomi responded to the popularity of the original Piston earphones with a number of improvements. In addition to fixing many of the design issues, the sound was re-tuned and a much larger port was opened up on the back of the Piston 2 in place of the small bottom-facing vent on the old Piston.

The result of the new tuning is significantly less bloated bass – the Piston 2 makes its predecessor sound boomy, and while it is not in any way bass-light, it won’t tickle bassheads’ fancy the way the original might have. Thanks to the tighter bass of the Piston 2, its midrange is nowhere near as muffled and the treble is a little more prominent, though also a touch less forgiving. The presentation is more open, too, although the original Piston already did an excellent job in that regard. All in all, with the exception of having less bass quantity, the Piston 2 is a clear step forward from the outgoing model.

VSonic VSD1S ($50)

In the world of portable Hi-Fi, the VSD1S from VSonic is a budget earphone, but it still costs twice as much as the Piston. It’s also an extremely solid set for the price, so the fact that the Piston 2 can go toe-to-toe in sound quality is a paradigm shift of sorts.

The Piston 2 is bassier and warmer than the VSD1S, thanks in large part to its greater deep bass presence. The two are pretty evenly-matched in mid-bass impact, but the VSD1S can appear punchier at times thanks to the more recessed mids. The bass quality of the Xiaomi lags behind the VSonic unit a bit – while more extended, the low end of the Piston 2 is a little bloated and can appear somewhat intrusive next to the VSD1S.

The midrange of the VSD1S is a little thinner and more recessed compared to the warmer mids of the Piston 2. It is also clearer, however, and does a better job of staying free of bass bleed, especially on complex tracks. Moving up, the VSD1S is more peaky, which makes it brighter and a touch more sibilance-prone. The Piston is smoother and more forgiving, though not by a large margin. In terms of presentation, both sound nice and airy but the VSD1, like VSonic’s higher-end models, tends towards a wider, less intimate soundstage.

RBH EP1 ($149)

Looking for a higher-end earphone to compare to the Piston 2, I came across the RBH EP1, which provides a rather different variant of warm, bassy sound. The EP1 impressed me originally with the prominence and clarity of its midrange, and that certainly hasn’t changed. Compared to the Xiaomi unit, its midrange is much more forward and quite a bit clearer. Its bass is also much more controlled in comparison.

The Piston is bassier than the EP1, but also more bloated and boomy. This makes its midrange – which is already less forward than that of the EP1 – sound veiled. The tone of the Piston is warmer and its sound is more full-bodied, making the EP1 sound thin in comparison. The EP1 also has more presence in the upper midrange and lower treble, but not in a good way – it still isn’t particularly well-balanced, and sounds rather more harsh than the Xiaomi to boot. Impressively, the Piston’s soundstage is as big as that of the EP1, though on tracks with lots of bass it tends to become congested more quickly.

Dunu DN-2000 ($315)

Just for fun, I pitted the Piston 2 against an earphone approximately 12 times more expensive, a flagship in-ear monitor with a hybrid driver setup that utilizes a dynamic driver for bass and two balanced armatures for the midrange and treble. This comparison is highly unfair, but also interesting because it is the only one I made where the Piston was clearly outclassed – an extremely impressive showing for the $25 Xiaomi.

Next to the DN-2000, with its 3-way crossover and independent subwoofer, the bass of the Pistons sounds boomy and has way too much mid-bass bloat. The DN-2000 has a focus on sub-bass rather than mid-bass and sounds much tighter and more controlled. It is also much clearer – the bass bleed of the Xiaomi makes its mids sound overly thick and muffled. This, in turn, causes it to gloss over a good bit of detail in comparison to the faultlessly resolving DN-2000.

The Piston has a more full-bodied sound, but lacks crispness. Especially in the treble, it seems like parts of the spectrum are so timidly reproduced that they are almost missing. The DN-2000, while much less forgiving, makes for a better reference earphone by far. The soundstage of the Piston seems congested while the DN-2000 has a wider, more open, more out-of-the-head sound. Tonality, however, is one area where I can see some listeners preferring the warmer Piston 2 to the brighter DN-2000.

Value (10/10) – Making sizable performance gains over its predecessor, the Xiaomi Piston 2 offers a solid construction, 3-button Android remote, and sound that’s all but flawless for the price and purpose. While higher-end in-ears can point out where the audio quality of the Piston 2 falls slightly short, in the age of internet radio this really may be all the fidelity many users need. With the dearth of choices among full-featured Android headsets at this time, the Xiaomi Piston 2 is a bargain, and a must-have for any Android user.

Pros: Fantastic sound quality for the price; 3-button Android remote; many usability improvements over Piston 1.0
Cons: Wide housings not ideal for small ears; flimsy stock tips; mediocre isolation

Inace resio sam da probam obicne SL 381 za 29e ali ih nema u L... , jos jedan clan se raspitao i navodno ce dobiti sve 3 verzije (381, f i b) za mesec dana.
 
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Neki kvalitetniji stereo džek od onog plastičnog, ima li negde u Srbiji da se kupi?
 
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