Texas-based CPU and GPU designer, fabless company AMD has successfully launched its Trinity mobile processors based on the new Piledriver processing core architecture.
The combination between the Piledriver architecture, the frequency increase and the VLIW4 iGPU made Trinity a tough competition for Intel’s Ivy Bridge.
Intel’s Ivy Bridge has a clear technological manufacturing advantage over AMD’s Trinity. That alone should give it the edge, especially in the mobile market, where the more advanced manufacturing process usually results in less energy consumption.
Ivy Bridge comes with various architecture improvements that make the x86 processing cores significantly more capable than AMD’s x86 units, and it also has a new and improved iGPU architecture running at twice AMD’s iGPU frequency.
Despite all these advances, AMD manages to frequently surpass Intel’s Ivy Bridge in most 3D applications, while maintaining a decent level of performance in non-3D software.
Moreover, being a 32 nm APU, Trinity was expected to achieve lower battery life when compared with the 22nm Ivy Bridge, but that is clearly not the case.
We can’t definitely say that AMD’s Trinity has the definite battery advantage, but it’s clear that AMD’s APU is edging Ivy Bridge in many test scenarios, while surpassing it in others.
We’re still waiting for the desktop versions of AMD’s Trinity, but the company is keen on ensuring a proper supply for the mobile market where Trinity has been so successful, and also on keeping up with the orders from the big OEMs like HP, Acer and others.
While the desktop Trinity is not yet here, many are wondering about the performance of the high-end FX processors that will use the new Piledriver architecture.
We were fortunate enough to get a sneak preview of desktop Piledriver performance from Tom's Hardware’s Chris Angelini.
Mr. Angelini put up a very detailed and well-written desktop Trinity preview that has also compared the Piledriver cores inside Trinity to FX 8150’s Bulldozer cores.
The FX 8150 Bulldozer was overclocked to achieve the same 3.8 GHz frequency Trinity has, and the extra two cores were disabled.
Having the same clock frequency and the same number of FPU and INT units enabled, Trinity managed to get a 15% lead on the FX 8150 in both single-threaded and multi-threaded applications.
It is clear now that the additional 8 MB of level 3 cache has offered Bulldozer an advantage that Trinity doesn’t have.
Despite this advantage, the Piledriver cores inside Trinity managed to achieve this significant 15% performance increase.
We can only conclude that adding 8 MB of level 3 cache can only help Piledrive-based FX 8350 achieve even better performance results.
Therefore, it is safe to assume that the Piledriver-based desktop processors will be at least 20% faster than the Bulldozer-based FX CPUs.
Nego reci mi ovo za dalje unapređenje BD arhitekture, ti misliš ili si negde pročitao da će Steamroller imati sve to što kažeš, ili je to neka tvoja logična pretpostavka u kom pravcu će ići AMD ?
Just last week we were presenting the likelihood that AMD’s first high-end desktop AM3+ implementation of the new Piledriver architecture would run at a frequency as high as 4 GHz.
The company’s frequency improvements are deriving from a more mature 32nm SOI process and the implementation of a new clock mesh along with a somewhat longer pipeline were the most likely advantages that Pliedriver would bring.
There was much talk whether the frequency improvements would be enough to make an impact on the market, but as we learned with Trinity, AMD’s Piledriver brings much more than just higher frequencies.
We saw here that a desktop implementation of the Piledriver architecture is showing a clear 15% performance improvement over the Bulldozer cores even without the help of the level 3 cache that FX desktop processors will have.AMD’s new FX8350 desktop AM3+ processor will work at a base frequency of 4 GHz and the Turbo Core boost will up the frequency to a slightly higher 4.2 GHz when needed.
The first Piledriver desktop AM3+ implementation is codenamed Vishera and will come with a total of 16 MB of cache on die.
The on-die cache memory is likely to be split in two parts. An 8 MB level 3 cache and there will be a group of four 2 MB level 2 cache slices. Each Piledriver module will benefit from its own 2 MB level 2 cache and will contain one single FPU and two integer units.
The schedule is reported to have been pushed back to early Q4 of this year so, by October 2012, AMD will have a new desktop flagship processor, but the hardware experts at Fudzilla are confirming that the new CPU will run at 4000 MHz base frequency.
The maximum TDP of the new Vishera core is just 125 watts.While this is not by far a modest TDP, all AMD AM3+ motherboards are required to support processors with a high 140 watts TDP so AMD’s has a little headroom to launch even faster models in the future.
Nije bitno na koliko Ghz ce da radi i koliko ce da se ocuje, sta vredi ako bude kilav kao BD a jedina promena bude to sto je default 4Ghz a max oc 5Ghz? Pa BD na 4Ghz je sporiji od 1075t thubana na default :d
U prevodu, ako novi AMD procesor sa 8 jezgara, kako to vole da naglase, ne bude na 4Ghz brzi ili bar jednako brz kao i5 2500k default- ugasili su.
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Yes, Bulldozer core microarchitecture didn't exactly impress on the desktop, with the power-performance ratio being the biggest problem even with discounted pricing. On the server front, the dual die 8 core-pair 'Interlagos' implementation of Bulldozer fared somewhat better as there are more apps that can benefit from many-thread resources, especially integer bound Web environments where the shared FP units aren't that much of a hindrance.
Since the Trinity APU already has the updated 32nm 'Piledriver' core included, the question was when will we really see it in the desktop and server general purpose CPUs. While there may be samples of Vishera floating around, this Bulldozer desktop follow-on is still nowhere near the official release. The 'Abu Dhabi' dual die follow-on to Interlagos, implementing the 'Piledriver' core, is howewer, pretty much confirmed for the September to October timeframe.
Any reason to wait? Well, there are two expected main benefits: one is the supposedly improved instructions per-clock efficiency, which could be up to 15% based on the more optimistic figures, and the other one is the higher clock frequency, up to some 20% vs similar Bulldozer cores especially on the Opterons. Finally, yes, Haswell-compatible FMA3 fused multiply add format. And, oh yes, further improved power management. Note that there will be no new sockets (meaning AM3+ and G34/C32 still), everything has to fit within the current TDP, memory and I/O bandwidth limits. No support for PCI Express 3.0 either...
Now, how would it impact the competitive positioning? Not much as of now - 22nm Ivy Bridge-E / EP updates (more on that this week) to Core i7 and Xeon E5 lines will keep the performance chasm as it is today. It would, however, show that AMD is still in the game and continuing to develop its CPU/Heterogenous Computing stuff so that, by the time the Steamroller and Excavator core designs come, it can hopefully compete again vs Intel.
AMD customers that are still enjoying the AM3+ platform are not forgotten by the company and the Texas based CPU and GPU designer is getting ready to launch some very powerful eight-core processors.
The new models use the long-awaited Piledriver enhanced x86 core and the same 8 MB level 3 cache.
The maximum supported memory is still 1866 MHz DDR3, but the processors themselves will likely offer an overall 20% performance increase over today’s FX 8150 CPU like we’ve reported here.
The new additions are reportedly called FX 8300 and FX 8320.
These are unlocked CPUs and the former runs at a base frequency of 3.3 GHz while the latter rated at 3.5 GHz with a 4.0 GHz Turbo option.
AMD’s FX 8300 has every chance of becoming an overclocker’s favorite as it only sport a 95 watts maximum TDP while the FX 8320 is rated at 125 watts TDP just like the FX 8350 that we’ve reported here.
The launch is estimated to be happening this autumn, but the pricing is closely held under wraps.
Zvuci bas dobro, kapiram ako AMD stvarno stvari ocekivanja od 20% ubrzanja(za pocetak) ,da ce serije FX4000 i 6000, otici brzo u zaborav kao i Phenom I. Kad covek malo bolje i razmisli to im je i sudjeno s obzirom da su ti bile samo de se premosti los perod.
nece sigurno ponuda Pileta ostati na 2-3 modela 83xx serije.)
P.S> Do duse lepo je sto pricamo o amd-u sa izvesnom perspektivom, jer do skora nismo znali hoce li dalje i koliko u Desktop varijantama.
Pa ni sad ne mozemo biti 100% sigurni da ce se te najave i ostvariti :bottle:
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