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I Huper je odlican casopis:D

pa u odnosu na prethodne epizode bila je puno bolja. i dalje je "nepotrebna" serija, ali mora se nešto gledati. fringe-a nema već jako dugo, možda su ga i otkazali nisam pratio vesti. čak toliko dugo ga nema da je to dobilo i termin "yet another frigeless saturday"
 
pa vecina serija je sad u pauzi, kontam da nastavljaju od nove....
 
Fringe 4x08 13.01.2012
Preporučujem tvrage site za info o serijama.
 
ima li, bre, neki app za android, da izaberem koje serije gledam, i da, kad ga otvorim, on meni kaze kad izlazi sledeca epizoda (ili kad je izasla poslednja)?
 
SeriesGuide Show Manager na primer.

Mada imas i eztv aplikaciju za android koja ne samo da ti javlja kada je neka serija zaista postala "dostupna" nego mozes i da je remota stavis da se "dobavlja" ;)
 
to mi reci :D
hvala :)
 
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2012 će biti dobra godina za filmove.

-Prometheus
-The Dark Knight Rises
-The Hobbit
 
Posle onakvog finala bilo bi sramota da terra nova ne dobije drugu sezonu..
 
Malo info-a za Prometheus:

EGE: So you are linking this directly with the Alien films?

RS: Not at all.

EGE: Not at all?

RS: No.

EGE: No?

RS: I mean, you could actually say, and there’s a quote I did, a pretty good quote: By the end of the third act you start to realize there’s a DNA of the very first alien, but none of the subsequent aliens. To tell you what that is is a pity, and I’m not going to tell you, because it’s actually pretty good, pretty organic to the process and to the original. But we go back, we don’t go forward.

Erlingur Grétar Einarsson: What [part of Prometheus] are you shooting in Iceland? What role in the film does it “play”?

Ridley Scott: It’s, you know, whenever you’re talking about science-fiction, it always sounds pretentious or corny. It’s actually “The beginning of time”. But I think we’ve got it right. (He laughs) So, it will be a pretty good beginning of time.

EGE: The tone of the film, according to the official synopsis, and the tone of the premise, sounds a lot more mythological than the original Alien films. The original Alien films revolved around industrial settings and premises and social situations rather than anything mythological.

RS: The original Alien was a pretty savage engine. I’ve always said it was a C-movie done in an A-way. Because it was the Old Dark House, you know. Seven people in the Old Dark House, and they’re all going to die. (He laughs) And they’re gonna die horribly and that in itself is a tricky exercise, because you can do it well, you can do it badly. But somehow that worked. It turned out pretty well.

I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?

Also, I ring off of… there’s a writer, Erich von Däniken. One of his most famous books was called Chariots of the Gods. Everyone thinks he was out of his mind, you know, for number one, “we are the creation of gods”, if you go back to the 19th century anthropologists, Darwin, and say if you go look at Darwin for the moment and look at the Darwinian idea, the Darwinian thesis, which is seemingly very logical. You know, you’re going from something that gradually comes to two legs and gradually here we are. Then you can go beyond that and you look more mathematically at the feasibility of how we’re able to be sitting here, right now, in this place. I’m talking to you, and I’ve got this thing (he picks up his cellphone) which looks like Star Trek. This is “Beam me up, Scotty”-stuff. You wouldn’t have believed this thing could exist thirty years ago.

[Editor's note: And here is where he really takes off:]

Things have changed so dramatically that you can start looking at the idea that all our history can be completely wrong and misguided. Because at some point someone has to put a statement down and have their own thesis, have their own theories. That was then later accepted or later is gradually dissolved and re-drawn or reworked. So now you’ve got the whole changed attitude with NASA, the church and I think even Hawking. Over the last thirty years have gone from “It’s highly unlikely that there’s anyone else in our galaxy, any other force, being in our galaxy,” to now, where they’re conceding that there are probably thousands of different lifeforms in this galaxy. And I think Hawking actually said, “Let’s hope they don’t visit.” And I think the church has conceded as well that it would not be against the word of God if we conceded that there are other lifeforms in this galaxy.

So, if you take that out, then the door is open. To me, it’s entirely logical. It’s entirely ridiculous to believe that we are the only ones here. That’s why my first thought is that for us to be sitting here right now is actually mathematically impossible without a lot of assistance. Who assisted? Who made the right decisions? Who was pushing and pulling to adjust us? That’s a fair question.

EGE: Final question. I have a feeling what the answer will be, but many want to know. Will we see the original xenomorph in Prometheus?

RS: No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!

Sudeci po traileru a i nekoj zainteresovanosti za origin of species, bice ovo sigurno veoma zanimljiv film, kao sto Alex gore rece, jedan od najocekivanijih iduce godine.
 
Poslednja izmena:
Prometheus mogući leak-ovani plot. E sad koliko je istinito prosudite sami. Kruži priča da se radi o delu nekog random fana.
Naravno masive spoiler je u pitanju zato pazite. Ja sam malo započeo i jedva se zaustavio :)
U svakom slučaju zanimljivo.

Earth. The beginnings of our world. In an opening montage, we watch as our primordial planet is terraformed and bioformed by seemingly all-powerful, Godlike alien entities…the ENGINEERS. The seeds of life are introduced to Earth for the first time by these fantastic extra-terrestrials, who have the power to create and manipulate both mechanical and biological matter at will. The montage ends as the earliest genetic recipe for life is sent forth from the Engineers’ massive, towering CITADEL in the dark desert.

The desolate desert of Africa: 2085. The prehistoric ruins of the Engineers’ Citadel is discovered by a corporate construction team tasked with building a nuclear-powered comm-array in the wilderness. Amidst the ancient remains are found highly advanced, biomechanical relics with are determined to be of extra-terrestrial origin. This catches the attention of the mega-conglomerate WEYLAND-YUTANI CORPOTATION, who finances a massive archaeological excavation of the citadel in the hopes of reverse-engineering the alien biotech for financial gain. Running the operation is MEREDITH VICKERS, a cold, calculating corporate executive, who recruits intelligent and independent astrophysicist DR. ELIZABETH SHAW to head up the research team. Assisting Dr. Shaw are xenoarchaeologist DR. THEO ZEDMORE and her fellow astrophysicist DR. LOGAN. Shaw uncovers the secret of the citadel when she discovers a chamber of star charts, which seem to lead the way to the home planet of the Engineers. Also uncovered is evidence suggesting that the Engineers had a database of all life on Earth, and may even have been responsible for its creation including Man.

In a partially-submerged MANHATTAN, Vickers meets with Dr. Shaw and an OPO, (Off-Planet-Officer), CAPTAIN JERAMIAH JANEK, and plans a space mission following the discovered star charts in an effort to find and make first contact with the Engineers. For the scientists and explorers onboard, it will be a journey of discovery, but for Vickers, it’s merely a way of obtaining new technology so that Weyland-Yutani may retain the lead in the competitive race to establish colonies off-world.

The depths of space: 2090. A highly-advanced, top-of-the-line ISRV (Interstellar Research Vessel) PROMETHEUS decelerates as it reaches its target solar system. The vessel’s crew emerges from their cryo-chambers. Along with Elizabeth Shaw, Theo Zedmore, Logan, Meredith Vickers, and Captain Janek, the crew of the Prometheus is comprised of: First Officer MUDOW, Security Officer RAYDEN HOLLOWAY, Navigator CHANCE, Helm Officer RAVEL, Operations Android DAVID 4.0, Political Officer ALDRICH, Medical Officer FRANCIS, Engineer YURI, and Technical Officers SIENA, LETTUP, and TEMBROOK. The crew gets acclimated to their removal from cryo-sleep, their muscles in atrophy from five years without use. Holloway assists Shaw in her physical therapy exercises.

The crew prepares for arrival at the home planet of the Engineers. Shaw and Holloway are instantly attracted to each other, initiating a romantic relationship. However, as they enter the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, Prometheus encounters a massive disturbance which hadn’t appeared on scanners, one even more powerful than a black hole: a wormhole in space. Prometheus is sucked into the wormhole, and after a harrowing ride, emerges on the other end. The ship crashes on a barren planet, which the damaged computer system identifies as the mission’s final destination.

The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw’s team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis.

Investigating the urns, David discovers that they contain the genetic material for thousands of species within a viscous liquid called BIOFORMER which can rewrite any living organism on a cellular level. Basically, possession of the substance gives its owner the power to create life. Vickers interacts with David and seemingly innocently leads to the Bioformer infecting David through a cut in his finger.

Within the depths of the Temple, we find several living Engineers who discover the transgression of the Humans, and remotely rewrite the stolen Bioformer to make it into a weapon. The Engineers capture Holloway and run a number of horrific experiments on him, injecting him with the Bioformer and allowing him to return to the vessel.

Subsequently, the crew of the Prometheus begins to fall victim to the now weaponized substance, as the “carrier” Holloway injects Ravel, Zedmore, Francis, Siena, Lettup, and Tembrook. The victims begin to lose their humanity and slowly transform, experiencing nightmarish visions and hallucinations and making pilgrimages to the depths of the Temple to receive instructions from the Bio-Brain. Holloway, in particular, is resistant to the transformation, fighting against the alien influence with his feelings for Shaw and his responsibilities as security officer. Meanwhile, David finds that the Bioformer is making him into a biological being…making him Human. The crew also finds that their trip through the wormhole took them back hundreds of millions of years and they are actually stranded on primordial Earth, having moved through space and time.

Eventually, as alien influence and the continued lurking presence of the Engineers becomes clear, the crew of the Prometheus turns on each other as the infected human victims fully mutate into PROTOFORMS: vicious, skeletal alien monstrosities which proceed to assault the unaffected Human crew through the halls of the Prometheus.

Mudow, Logan, Chance, Aldrich, Yuri, and Janek end up being destroyed by the Protoforms. In a strange, erotic ceremony, the Protoforms seemingly mate with the Bio-Brain and each other to create thousands of EGGS, the first of a new generation of the monsters. Meredith Vickers is revealed to be a sleeper CONSTRUCT of the Engineers, who are still active in their far future and Shaw’s present due to the time-travelling abilities of the wormhole. Vickers was grown in an Engineer lab but escaped, fleeing to Earth while always wanting to her find creators and take their power. The Engineers activate Vickers’ secondary GENE PROGRAMMING, and she transforms into an ALPHA PROTOFORM: the STAR BEAST.

At last, the two remaining crew members, Elizabeth Shaw and David, seek to confront the Engineers in the Temple. The Godlike entities prove to be utterly evil, and David sacrifices himself as he’s dissolved in the LIFE SEED BIOFORMER which is the basic genetic recipe for MAN: the former android David, it turns out, is the basis for all Mankind. Shaw is captured by Holloway, but he regains enough of his humanity to remotely activate an Engineer vessel for Shaw’s escape, then holds the other Protoforms and Engineers at bay. As Shaw escapes, she finds herself in the midst of the initial Engineer terraforming of Earth which we had witnessed in the opening montage, chased by the former Meredith Vickers who is now the gigantic, horrific Star Beast.

Shaw makes to her escape vessel which blasts off for the wormhole, Holloway fighting the Star Beast with both falling into the wormhole and disappearing. An Engineer PILOT detaches from the Temple in a FAMILIAR VESSEL and follows Shaw, but is lost in the wormhole. Shaw emerges above the Earth of her present day; however, she’s deemed insane and responsible for the loss of her expedition and confined to a psychiatric hospital by the Company. It’s implied that there are at least some of those who believe Shaw’s tale, but have silenced her as part of a cover-up.

In the final scene, we see the vessel of the Engineer that was chasing Elizabeth Shaw emerge from the wormhole in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, still in the prehistoric past, and crash on a nearby planetoid, the Engineer Pilot helplessly lost and the EGGS in the ship’s cargo hold stirring as something alive moves from within…

The Beginning
 
Samo sam krenuo da citam i vidi se da je inspirisan Danikenom, sto je i rekao gore u intervjuu. Inace, ocekujem bas zanimljiv film, a ovaj complete spoiler ne smem da citam do kraja. :D
 
Denikenom? Nooooooooooooooooo :D
 
Yeeeeees. :D Naravno, nije u onom fazonu koji plasi internet vecinu aka Ancient Aliens :D, vec u nekoj kombinatorici toga, tj. da je zivot imao kreatora ili neku mogucnost da postoji kreator odredjene vrste, kao sto rece gore u intervjuu.
 
Ja se samo pitam sa kojim procentom su sajentolozi i kreacionisti ucestvovali u budzetu filma... :trust::wall:
 
Ah, vec su uzburkani religiozni i ateisticki krugovi. :D
 
Pratim Prometheus jos kad je najavljen, izlazili su razni leak-ovi o radnji i uopste o Alien univezumu.Cak je FOX cesto trazio da se te informacije uklone, recimo, ovaj trailer se pojavio pre vise od mesec dana).
A ja radoznao citao sav taj info :) i mogu vam reci da ako je 20% toga tacno Alien universe i cela prica oko Prometeja nije nimalo originalna.
Sad cu procitati do pola ovaj Alexov spoiler pa cu da spoilujem ja posle :)
 
Ah, vec su uzburkani religiozni i ateisticki krugovi. :D

Sasvim legitimno pitanje, s obzirom da vec dugo postoji trend da filmovi i serije vizuelno i tehnicki postaju sve impresivniji, a pricha istih je sve cesche nekoherentno bulaznjenje ili otvorena religiozna propaganda. S obzirom na kraj kakav je Lost imao, cisto sumnjam da slicnog s.ranja nece biti i u Prometheus-u. (Uostalom, vec ima previshe 'slucajnosti' sto se tiche priche Prometheus-a, da se ne bi mogle ladno tvrditi cvrste veze sa sajentoloskom propagandom: ancient aliens tema, samo ime filma, Lindelof kao jedan od scenarista,...)

Yeeeeees. :D Naravno, nije u onom fazonu koji plasi internet vecinu aka Ancient Aliens :D, vec u nekoj kombinatorici toga, tj. da je zivot imao kreatora ili neku mogucnost da postoji kreator odredjene vrste, kao sto rece gore u intervjuu.
Dakle, nisu Ancient Aliensi, vec su Ancient Aliensi... :lupko::trust:

Samo za Gdin_M-a (ostali neka ,) pre gledanja):
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Vgagi ja se obicno salim i pravim zezanciju od necega ali ti si ozbiljno opsednut religijom i svime sto je vezano uz nju, a to na kraju obicno prerasta u neku netrpeljivost prema drugima i njihovim misljenjima. Tebi je svaki moguci film, prica, knjiga ili bilo sta neka religiozna propaganda ili ti ne znam ni ja sta "opasno po svest". Who cares, kada je ionako cela ova nasa civilizacija i drustvo zasnovano na monetarnoj propagandi i njenim takmicarskim disciplinama. ;)

A sto se tice te glupe i dosadne fore "its Aliens", ajde ovako, posto smo svi jelte toliko razumni i obrazovani i svesni svega :D, razmisli, da nasa civilizacija uznapreduje da npr. stvorimo zivot na nekoj planeti i sebe kloniramo i genetski modifikujemo (sto vec i radimo) i zasnujemo tamo neki svestan zivot, jer bi onda mi bili "alieni" toj tamo rasi bica?
 
... Who cares...
'Who cares' stav i guranje glave u pesak su vec nebrojeno puta kostali ljudsku vrstu ogromnog broja ljudskih zhivota, tehnoloskog progresa i istorijske zaostavstine. Ovo je po meni poslednja shansa koju ljudska vrsta josh ima, i ako je propustimo, ima da nas nema vishe... :trust:

...da nasa civilizacija uznapreduje da npr. stvorimo zivot na nekoj planeti i sebe kloniramo i genetski modifikujemo (sto vec i radimo) i zasnujemo tamo neki svestan zivot, jer bi onda mi bili "alieni" toj tamo rasi bica?
Ako se nekim chudom to i desi, i dalje to ne bi znacilo da ima bilo chega u ancient aliens spekulaciji. Izvanredne tvrdnje traze izvanredne dokaze, i Occam's razor.

Kontra pitanje za tebe: S obirom na preovladjujuci mentalitet ljudskih bica, da li zaista mislish da bi tamo negde pokushali da stvorimo svesni zhivot ? Mislim, ima ovde na Zemlji oho-ho kandidata za uzdizanje... :trust:
 
Kolko sam ja skapirao plot pre Prometheus-a

Ancient Aliens (space jockey) su stvarali zivot po galaksijama.Tako stvorise zivot na zemlji. Znajuci da ce ih kad-tad, njihove kreacije pronaci i mozda pozeleti da ih casti sa par nuklearki morali su da se obezbede.
Kako su bili miroljubivi a i nisu imali neprijatelje stvorise Predatore da im budu sluge i cuvari. Predatori se pobunise i poklase skoro sve kreatore.
Onda kreatori stvorise Xenomorph na planeti Proteus koje su kontrolisali preko Hive Queen. Medjutim nejasno je da li su i u tome failovali (prvi film) ili su tu i ljudi umesali prste (prometheus) te je to dovelo do njihovog istrebljenja.
Weyland-Yutani otkriva lokaciju kreatora i salju Prometheus, ne bi li im pokrali tehnologiju. Pocinje film :)
Sad nejasno je da li su u tome uspeli jer se kasnije WY izrodio u mega korporaciju i poceo da kolonizuje planete. Jasno je da nisu uzeli Xenomorph-e, pa to ocajnicki pokusavaju (sva 4 filma).
Kao sto znamo "The appearance of the xenomorph varies depending on its parent host"
Ono sto je meni zanimljivo je sto cemo u prometheus-u mozda videti originalnog Xenomorph-a.
 
@VGagi i Gdin_M, vas dvojica ste promenili uloge:p

Kako ilo, ja čekam film, i već sam se smorio. Biće to 6 dugih meseci...
 
'Who cares' stav i guranje glave u pesak su vec nebrojeno puta kostali ljudsku vrstu ogromnog broja ljudskih zhivota, tehnoloskog progresa i istorijske zaostavstine. Ovo je po meni poslednja shansa koju ljudska vrsta josh ima, i ako je propustimo, ima da nas nema vishe... :trust:

Super ako ces da nas izvedes na pravi put. A sad razmisli o onome gore sta sam rekao a nisi quotovao i razmisli o sopstvenoj ironiji u tome.

Ako se nekim chudom to i desi, i dalje to ne bi znacilo da ima bilo chega u ancient aliens spekulaciji. Izvanredne tvrdnje traze izvanredne dokaze, i Occam's razor.

I sta je odgovor na pitanje? Znaci sta kazes, moguce je, a? A za dokaze predoci Ridliju da ti pokaze posto covek ocigledno snima dokumentarac o nastanku ljudske rase a ne akcioni film. I molim te vise mani me slika i sci-fi geek fora sa onim rascupanim Grkom...

Kontra pitanje za tebe: S obirom na preovladjujuci mentalitet ljudskih bica, da li zaista mislish da bi tamo negde pokushali da stvorimo svesni zhivot ? Mislim, ima ovde na Zemlji oho-ho kandidata za uzdizanje... :trust:

Pitanje je relativno nebitno a i odgovori koji mogu da glase sa i da i ne i mozda. A to nije bila poenta mog pitanja vec da je i tako nesto moguce a ne dogmatski i osudjujuci nemoguce... oh sweet irony...



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Uloge cega?
 
Poslednja izmena:
Uloge, tj. strane. Ili sam se ja utripovao nešto. Činilo mi se da si ti više religiozan a da je on ateista, ili tako nešto:p Nije ni važno, biće dobra diskusija:)

Kako bilo, sve teorije o našem postanku su otvorene.
 
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