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Ipak menjam za MGE AVR 625 +Apc Line1200 voltage regulator
 
Ipak menjam za MGE AVR 625 +Apc Line1200 voltage regulator


Znaci doslo iz D u G :d :d :d

Mada, glupost je ako ces UPS prikljuciti na taj stabilizator, jer UPS vec ima AVR :trust:

Najbolje da (ako mozes) doplatis za APC Smart-UPS SUA750I koji na izlazu daje sine wave kad se napaja sa baterije.

Mozda neki APC surge arrest, HDD ili nesto trece, jer je pored UPS-ovog AVR-a, nepotrebno uzimati stabilizator :trust:

3x meri, 1x seci ;)

:wave:
 
Znaci doslo iz D u G :d :d :d

Mada, glupost je ako ces UPS prikljuciti na taj stabilizator, jer UPS vec ima AVR :trust:

Najbolje da (ako mozes) doplatis za APC Smart-UPS SUA750I koji na izlazu daje sine wave kad se napaja sa baterije.

Mozda neki APC surge arrest, HDD ili nesto trece, jer je pored UPS-ovog AVR-a, nepotrebno uzimati stabilizator :trust:

3x meri, 1x seci ;)

:wave:
E a mozda na jedan comp stavim samo AVR a na drugi samo UPS sa Avr-om, sta kazes na to, i odakle ti ideja da cu uopste vezati uredjaje jedan iza drugog ...;), u krajnjem slucaju jedan bi kasnije mozda i utopio , zavisno od potreba, A i uvoznik nema HDD's i sto sta jos za oko 50 e sto bi mi bilo vredno paznje i na kraju dobro je sto su prihvatili ovaj predlog ...
A SUA 750 je 260e najjeftinije , sto je razlika od 140-150 e u odnosu na moju doplatu...
Znam Ja sta je dobro , ali znam i koliko kosta
 
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Ma videli smo Kamikaze i ja da ti imas neki dalekosezni plan ,ali ........:-devil-:
Salim se. Taj APC stabilizator napona je dosta korektna sprava,mislim da se niko nije po internetu zalio na nju. Oko 5,5 iljada je? Video sam na sajtu Mikrosistema ,a i u Metrou se isto tako prodaje,skoro u dinar.
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Onda ces taman steci iskustvo sa oba uredjaja, pa ces moci da ga podelis sa drugima ;)

A jesi li razmisljao o 2x625?
Jao Kamikaze ima da te stavim kao sifru na racunaru, da te nikad ne zaboravim.
Ne moras da me bombardujes predlozima taman sam se odlucio za varijantu 1, nemoj da me teras da aktiviram plan B. U principu nemam neke velike potrebe za UPS-om, a APC AVR line-r je bolji kao regulator napona od vec pomenutog AVR koji ide uz ovu seriju MGE-a siguran sam u to.

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Ma videli smo Kamikaze i ja da ti imas neki dalekosezni plan ,ali ........
Salim se. Taj APC stabilizator napona je dosta korektna sprava,mislim da se niko nije po internetu zalio na nju. Oko 5,5 iljada je? Video sam na sajtu Mikrosistema ,a i u Metrou se isto tako prodaje,skoro u dinar.
Pa krece se od 51-55 e koliko sam video po net-u, e sad sa ovim promenama kursa to dodje oko 5 i vise 'iljada, a Mikrosistem je po pravilu malo skuplji od ostalih koliko se secam Mge je kod njih bio skuplji pune 2 hiljade od mesta gde sam pazario svoj 1250, a skoro sam pazario neki HDD i opet mi se nisu svidjale nesto njihove cene ....
 
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Neki put im nisu azurirane cene na sajtu,posto nude bas puno toga [a nabavljaju po zahtevu], jer niko nema toliki lager.
U prosloj godini sam jako malo pazario kod njih,jer mi nisu usput. Ali sam imao proteklih godina i neki rabat,par reklamacija koje su bile izuzetno brzo resene,dok je kamara stvari kupljena kod njih u besprekornom stanju i dan-danas.
U principu [da ih ne hvalim] vise volim da dam koji dinar vise pa da dobijem pravu garanciju [koliko treba,ako je za HDD 3god,onda je 3god,i sl] i da znam da cu je realizovati,nego da se idem na drugi kraj grada,do radnje "sad me vidis-sad me ne vidis".
Da se manemo trgovaca, jel u tom MGE 1250 ima dva mala MGE625? Jel to plan "B"?
Salim se.
Sto ne probas kako radi AVR kod tog sadasnjeg ups-a i ostanes na njemu ,al da se manes tog njihovog softwera,koji definitivno ne valja?
Ili uzmes neki jeftiniji APC [da imas ups kao uredjaj,zlu ne trebalo] i taj njihov stabilizator napona i tako se definitivno manes MGE-a ?
 
Sto ne probas kako radi AVR kod tog sadasnjeg ups-a i ostanes na njemu ,al da se manes tog njihovog softwera,koji definitivno ne valja?
Ili uzmes neki jeftiniji APC [da imas ups kao uredjaj,zlu ne trebalo] i taj njihov stabilizator napona i tako se definitivno manes MGE-a ?


Nemoj da ga "nerviras" :D :D :D

Na kraju ce bataliti UPS-eve i kompjutere i trosice pare na knjige i putovanja ;) (sto i nije tako losa ideja/predlog :d)
 
Neki put im nisu azurirane cene na sajtu,posto nude bas puno toga [a nabavljaju po zahtevu], jer niko nema toliki lager.
U prosloj godini sam jako malo pazario kod njih,jer mi nisu usput. Ali sam imao proteklih godina i neki rabat,par reklamacija koje su bile izuzetno brzo resene,dok je kamara stvari kupljena kod njih u besprekornom stanju i dan-danas.
U principu [da ih ne hvalim] vise volim da dam koji dinar vise pa da dobijem pravu garanciju [koliko treba,ako je za HDD 3god,onda je 3god,i sl] i da znam da cu je realizovati,nego da se idem na drugi kraj grada,do radnje "sad me vidis-sad me ne vidis".
Da se manemo trgovaca, jel u tom MGE 1250 ima dva mala MGE625? Jel to plan "B"?
Salim se.
Sto ne probas kako radi AVR kod tog sadasnjeg ups-a i ostanes na njemu ,al da se manes tog njihovog softwera,koji definitivno ne valja?
Ili uzmes neki jeftiniji APC [da imas ups kao uredjaj,zlu ne trebalo] i taj njihov stabilizator napona i tako se definitivno manes MGE-a ?
Nema 2 mge 625 za 1 mge1250, razlika je nekih 20 e sto i nije neka razlika.
Na kraju ce 625 da radi i bez povezivanja na racunar, a hocu APC Avr uredjaj u svakom slucaju, dok je najjeftinij APC 80-90e a ovaj MGE ima Avr (kakav takav) a sto se tice 1250 nisam siguran da mi treba autonomija od 20 minuta ...
A na kraju i ako ostanem na 1250 svakako sam planirao da kupim i APC regulator ...
 
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Hi Guys, I'm sorry I can't speak your language.
Does anyone speak english?
I have the same problem with my MGE Nova AVR 1250. When I disconnect it from the power and reconnect it, it always shows CHARGING from 30%.
If I keep it conected to the power, it charges to 100% ok.
I tried with Windows Power Management and with MGEOPS PSP software, same probem.
Please can anyone translate and tell me if you guys found a solution?
Thankyou very much.
 
Hi Guys, I'm sorry I can't speak your language.
Does anyone speak english?
I have the same problem with my MGE Nova AVR 1250. When I disconnect it from the power and reconnect it, it always shows CHARGING from 30%.
If I keep it conected to the power, it charges to 100% ok.
I tried with Windows Power Management and with MGEOPS PSP software, same probem.
Please can anyone translate and tell me if you guys found a solution?
Thankyou very much.


It is supposed to be that way ;)

Don't worry :wave:
 
Thankyou for your reply.
I always disconnect it from the power when I'm not using my computer, is it ok to keep doing this?
I'm really grateful, thanks.


It's OK, if you don't mind the software...

Disconnecting your UPS from the power source may also be beneficial for the batteries, since they're not constantly trickle charging/discharging.
 
It should be fine (as long as UPS unit don't think there's power outage), but maybe it's more "elegant" to use on/off button on the UPS:)
 
It should be fine (as long as UPS unit don't think there's power outage), but maybe it's more "elegant" to use on/off button on the UPS:)

The UPS is functionning normally, it kicks in when there is power outage like it's suppose to be.
I always shut it down with the OFF button AND disconnect it from the power when I'm not using the computer. Another reason is that the fan keeps rotating even when it's off, that's why I feel more comfortable when it's completely disconnected and off especially when I'm not home.
What I want to know is: Despite the software says that the UPS is charging, IS IT IN FACT CHARGING? or the software has a bug? Cos it's impossible for the UPS to discharge from 100 to 30% in a couple of seconds when you disconnect it and reconnect it to power.
Thankyou guys.
 
The UPS is functionning normally, it kicks in when there is power outage like it's suppose to be.
I always shut it down with the OFF button AND disconnect it from the power when I'm not using the computer. Another reason is that the fan keeps rotating even when it's off, that's why I feel more comfortable when it's completely disconnected and off especially when I'm not home.
What I want to know is: Despite the software says that the UPS is charging, IS IT IN FACT CHARGING? or the software has a bug? Cos it's impossible for the UPS to discharge from 100 to 30% in a couple of seconds when you disconnect it and reconnect it to power.
Thankyou guys.


Kudos for disconnecting it while not at home ;)

Local MGE distibuter claims that it is a "battery safety feature". The device simply wasn't designed to be disconnected from the power source without a power failure.

Translation - cheap electronics :trust:

You can experiment with that - disconnecting it while your PC is on, turning off the PC and UPS, then reconnecting it... It should show the last % value (68% for example).

Even when it shows 30%, if your PC and UPS aren't connected, your battery run time will be way more than 30% :trust:

http://www.lextec.com/prod_ups.html
Line Interactive UPS systems provide standby power, plus a voltage regulating transformer to ride out prolonged brownouts or overvoltages. These entry level units offer better protection than a standby UPS but still have short battery runtime and short battery life due to constant trickle charging and frequent battery use.

BTW, if your PC isn't working while you're not at home, why on Earth do you need that el cheapo software?

And you're welcome :type:


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Trust me, almost every MGE user on this forum went through this. We've all been there ;)
It's not good for your piece of mind to worry that much.
You're concerned like you were from Niš :D :D :D
 
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Kudos for disconnecting it while not at home ;)

Local MGE distibuter claims that it is a "battery safety feature". The device simply wasn't designed to be disconnected from the power source without a power failure.

Translation - cheap electronics :trust:

You can experiment with that - disconnecting it while your PC is on, turning off the PC and UPS, then reconnecting it... It should show the last % value (68% for example).

Even when it shows 30%, if your PC and UPS aren't connected, your battery run time will be way more than 30% :trust:

http://www.lextec.com/prod_ups.html


BTW, if your PC isn't working while you're not at home, why on Earth do you need that el cheapo software?

And you're welcome :type:


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Trust me, almost every MGE user on this forum went through this. We've all been there ;)
It's not good for your piece of mind to worry that much.
You're concerned like you were from Niš :D :D :D

Loooooool, man believe me I'm in a place far worse than Niš!!!
I'm live in a country called Lebanon, where the power goes out several times a day!!!
I uninstalled the MGE PSP software and now Windows Power Management is handling it but it's the same thing!
So you mean that although it says 30% and charging, the UPS actually has more juice than that?
But if it's true that it keeps charging every time I connect it, it means that the batteries won't last more than a year!!!! This is messed up :(
Sorry if I ask too much questions, I'm just trying to understand how this thing works lol, where are those 70% juice going in one second of disconnection?
Thanks again :)
 
A rekao sam da ce ljudi na googlu pod "problem MGE..." dobiti ovu diskusiju na bench-u i to jos pre mesec-dva !
Mada,ovaj engleski mi ima francuski naglasak i mislim da je to neka provokacija od strane MGE-a?
:D
 
Loooooool, man believe me I'm in a place far worse than Niš!!!
I'm live in a country called Lebanon, where the power goes out several times a day!!!
I uninstalled the MGE PSP software and now Windows Power Management is handling it but it's the same thing!
So you mean that although it says 30% and charging, the UPS actually has more juice than that?
But if it's true that it keeps charging every time I connect it, it means that the batteries won't last more than a year!!!! This is messed up :(
Sorry if I ask too much questions, I'm just trying to understand how this thing works lol, where are those 70% juice going in one second of disconnection?
Thanks again :)


Yeah, that is worse :S:

Batteries should last for more than a year, but that depends of all sorts of things...

Those 70% are there, but that cheap device doesn't have an internal clock or fancy sensors that measure battery voltage, so it doesn't know whether it was disconnected from power source for 10 seconds or for 10 months. It assumes that the battery is empty, because it was disconnected from the power source.

It's supposedly designed that way in order to prevent deep discharge of the batteries. I guess nobody thought that someone would actually disconnect and reconnect their UPS every day...

For what its worth, I'm not using that software.

Bottom line is - forget it.

You got your money's worth :trust:


P.S. Welcome to the club of overly concerned MGE users ;)


A rekao sam da ce ljudi na googlu pod "problem MGE..." dobiti ovu diskusiju na bench-u i to jos pre mesec-dva !
Mada,ovaj engleski mi ima francuski naglasak i mislim da je to neka provokacija od strane MGE-a?
:D


Pa kad jedino nama pada na pamet da iskljucujemo UPS iz struje :d

Al' nismo vise u prvih 10 na Google-u.

chipc je zakuvao sve :p, a sad ce mene MGE da juri sto na engleskom pisem da su cheap :D

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Znas kako nas narod gleda na tehniku,ide iz krajnosti u krajnost.
Jedni kad odlaze iz kuce,sve iskljucuju,dok drugi opet,ostavljaju ukljuceno i sta treba i sta ne treba.
Skoro sam popravljao jedan Mustek 600 usb [valjda najprodavaniji Mustek]. Star je nekoliko godina, a radio je mozda nekoliko desetina sati sve ukupno. Kupljen je skupa sa racunarom ,zbog velikih padova napona uzrokovanih radionicom u dvoristu. Njega je prijateljica koristila za gasenje racunara i monitora.
Znaci kad ga ugasi prekidac [s prednje strane], ona racuna da je iskljucila sa mreze i njega,a samim tim sve sto je preko njega spojeno.
Dok jednog dana nije pocelo nesto da pisti iz njega [iskljucenog!],pa se malo menjala visina tonova [na znam da li Mustek ima tako neku melodiju ubacenu u softwer,ili ups prelazi u mod teranja miseva i pacova?], pa su zatim poceli dimni signali da se salju [valjda indijancima?] i onda je sve stalo.
Osigurac na ulazu u ups je, naravno,ispravan,taj ce valjda poslednji da crkne.
Nekoliko dioda i akumulator su zamenjenu i sad radi kao sat.
E sad, budi pametan zasto se to desilo? Da li bi se desilo da je bio non-stop ukljucen na prednjem prekidacu [kako bi i trebalo] ili je to jednostavno jeftin ups?
Srecom racunaru i monitoru nista.
Racunam posto imam APC ,to ne bi trebalo da se desi [sem u nekoj ludoj teoriji],jer je na dosta mesta,bas na ovom forumu,receno da ljudi zenemaruju i olako shvataju probleme sa strujom i trose gomile navaca na graficke,fensi kucista,kinesko-turske kombinacije produznih kablova,na kojima pise 3x2.5mm,a kad ga blankiras ispadne da je 3x0.5mm,itd.
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Loooooool, man believe me I'm in a place far worse than Niš!!!
I'm live in a country called Lebanon, where the power goes out several times a day!!!
I uninstalled the MGE PSP software and now Windows Power Management is handling it but it's the same thing!
So you mean that although it says 30% and charging, the UPS actually has more juice than that?
But if it's true that it keeps charging every time I connect it, it means that the batteries won't last more than a year!!!! This is messed up :(
Sorry if I ask too much questions, I'm just trying to understand how this thing works lol, where are those 70% juice going in one second of disconnection?
Thanks again :)
Ah, DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY, it is normal for that UPS ...
Keep your nerve in good condition ...
C**** s***che ...
 
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Great, thanks a lot guys you've been very helpful :)
Feels a bit better to know that I'm not the only one!!!
Thank you so much.
 
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