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Pozdrav drugari!Par dan koristim hyperdroid cm7 5.3.0 i sve šljaka stvarno odlicno samo je zvuk uzasno tih i kada se odvrne na max,jel imao neko slicnih problema?
 
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Ma druze stavi ti nandroid:
1. Prvo stavi najnovi hspl iz bootloadera i radio najnoviji
2. task 29 da formatiras internu mem
3. Instaliraj magladir 1.13
4. Instaliraj clockwork mod
5. Neki nandroid rom imas ih dosta na xda pa izaberi neki ( stavi clockwork koji odgovara samom romu, pise ti uglavnom u temi)
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Da li se ovom procedurom (stavljanje androida na SD) izbegava nand, tj, ako je kod mene mozda u pitanju neispravan nand, da li ce da se on koristi kada se na sd karticu instalira android ?
 
Nisam siguran da sam te razumeo sta si hteo da kazes. Imas dve verzije androida, jedna je NAND pri kojoj se android instalira na internu memoriju i on je tada jedini da kazem system na telefonu, druga varijanta je pokretanje androida sa sd kartice (nekog .exe fajla ili tako nesto ali iz win mobile systema) i onda ti sustinski rade oba sistema istovremeno i pri tome logicno imas i vecu potrosnju baterije.
 
Та варијанта Андроида са картице не тражи други оперативни систем већ може аутоматски да се покреће преко MAGLDR. Додуше MAGLDR мора да буде на интерној меморији у сваком случају

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Hteo sam da pitam, ako je kojim slucajem kod mene defektan NAND, da li bi se instalacijom androida na SD karticu izbeglo njegovo (nand) koriscenje

@Enrico Adams
Daj neki link sa xda, gde ima varijanta da se android (ili bilo koji win) baci na sd
 
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Hteo sam da pitam, ako je kojim slucajem kod mene defektan NAND, da li bi se instalacijom androida na SD karticu izbeglo njegovo (nand) koriscenje
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ne bi.

imas varijantu "klasicnih" SD build-ova koji se startuju iz WinMo. ono gore objasnjenje nije bas tacno jer u ovom postupku haret.exe kompletno gasi WinMo i butuje linux kernel (nema WinMo koji se vrti u pozadini). Android jeste kompletno na SD ali za rad ovoga potrebno je imati funkcionalnu instalaciju WinMo na NAND memoriji

druga varijanta je SD build koji se startuje iz MAGLDR. takodje je kompletan android na SD kartici ali potrebo je imati loader (MAGLDR) instaliran na NAND memoriji kako bi mogao da kontrolise ucitavanje androida

obrati paznju da ove dve varijante nisu bas identicne. cini mi se da im se razlikuje initrd tako da oako se odlucis na varijanu Android SD iz MAGLDR-a, potrezi u thread-u build-a za koji se odlucis instrukcije kako da izvrsis potrebne modifikacije


WinMo NEMOZE da se "baci" na SD karticu. sa SD kartice mozes da startujes samo linux derivate - android/ubuntu/meego
 
dok cekamo finalizaciju ICS-a i dok cekamo tranziciju na .35 kernel, evo malog podsecanja kako je sve pocelo i kako se razvijalo

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Two Years Later: The Amazing HTC HD2

November 28, 2011 By: Livven

It’s hard to believe just how much the smartphone space has changed since that phone, the HTC HD2, was released in November 2009, two years ago. It was one of the last Windows Mobile devices, but it eventually got ports for both Android and Windows Phone 7. With this active developer support and a thriving community, it went on to become the most popular device in xda-developers history, and was voted as the best HTC device of both 2009 and 2010 in our forums.

Now, it’s November 2011, exactly two years later. Time to recapitulate the story of this extraordinary smartphone.

How it came to be

The HD2 was the latest in a line-up that HTC established in 2008, and as a main differentiator from other Windows Mobile devices included its custom TouchFLO 3D (codename Manila) interface. It started with the original Touch Diamond released in May, featuring a strikingly elegant design; later, in November, the Touch Pro added a dedicated hardware keyboard for the business type; finally, the Touch HD, released in December, had a (for that time) huge 3.8″ screen and was targeted at enthusiasts.

This line-up was continued in the first half of 2009, with the successors predictably named Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2. The successor to the Touch HD, though, didn’t arrive until November, and it dropped the “Touch” in its name, to be called just HD2. And that name change was significant: The HD2 was the first Windows Mobile device with a capacitive touchscreen, and that screen was a massive 4.3 inches – the biggest of any smartphone at that time –, and it was only the second smartphone (after the ill-fated Toshiba TG01) with the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, clocked at a massive 1 GHz. In the US, where it was released in March 2010 exclusively on T-Mobile, it sold out within four hours.

Even today, the HD2 is still quite usable and reasonably fast, as opposed to the other Windows Mobile devices of old. But the hardware, however impressive, is not the main reason.

Development and hacking

This site wouldn’t be xda-developers if not for custom ROMs, and the HD2 is no exception. After HSPL was released in early Jauary 2010, custom ROMs started to appear with just about any build of WM 6.5, 6.5.1, 6.5. and 6.5.5. And, among all those Windows Mobile devices, the HD2 was the most popular one, with a combined 235.000 posts in its WM 6.5 ROM development sections, compared to almost 220.000 for the second one, 2007′s HTC Kaiser (also known as TyTN II). But, again, this is not the whole story.

It was all clear from the beginning that the HD2 would be crippled, because it shipped with the Windows Mobile operating system, which, even with improvements in version 6.5, simply wasn’t designed with finger-use in mind. The iPhone had taken the smartphone world by storm, and Android, though promosing, wasn’t yet ready for prime-time in late 2009. HTC had no choice but to use Windows Mobile – so it dressed it up in an beautiful interface called Sense (especially awesome with the excellent CHT mod). It went much further than the old TouchFLO versions, providing an incredibly well-designed homescreen with fancy weather animations, replacements for most of the stock apps and settings, and even multitouch support in the browser and photo apps. It also spurred a frenzy of custom themes and skins in our forums. But still, as Engadget put it:

The experience was a quick and painful reminder that no matter how pretty the window dressing is here, HTC has staged its fashion show in a building that should be scheduled for demolition.

Porting Android

Being open source, Linux had always been popular among developers for ports to other devices, and among power users for its sheer flexibility and customizability. Consequently, people wanted “Familiar Linux” ported onto 2002′s Wallaby, sold as the O2 XDA, the device that started it all (well, this site, at least). Ports of Linux never gained widespread popularity, though, since Linux was a desktop OS: it didn’t even include phone functions.

Then, in 2005, Google purchased Android Inc., a startup founded two years ago, and released the first beta version and SDK of Android, the operating system, in November 2007 (more information can be found on the Wikipedia article on Android). This finally gave Linux ports a real purpose – Android was designed as an operating system for smartphones, to be used with fingers instead of styluses, and it was based on Linux. So, even without any actual Android devices released yet (the first one, the HTC Dream, only arrived in late 2008), ports of the SDK build started popping up; the most actively supported one of those early ports was for the HTC Touch.

The aforementioned line-up of devices, specifically the Touch Diamond, Pro, HD, Diamond2, and Pro2, also got their own Android ports, beginning in 2009, most notably through the XDANDROID project. However, the HD2′s Snapdragon processor was quite different from the CPU used in those other devices; it always crashed when trying to load HaRET.exe, the tool used to boot from Windows Mobile into Linux. On June 25, 2010, this issue was finally solved; barely three days later, Android was booting on the HD2, and in June, the first Android builds were released (visit this thread for a more detailed overview).

Development didn’t stop here, though; aside from the usual assortment of bug fixes and other incremental improvements from various developers and cooks, another breakthrough happened in the last days of 2010: MAGLDR. It allowed people to boot directly into Android, erasing and thereby completely bypassing Windows Mobile. With this kind of native NAND support, development accelerated once again: ClockworkMod Recovery was released a few days later. Since then, all major Android (Gingerbread, Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich) and Sense (3.0, 3.5) versions have been ported to the HD2.

But still, this is not the whole story. Barely two weeks into the new year, something else happened.

Windows Phone 7

Let’s take a step back first. As we all know, the HD2 shipped with Windows Mobile 6.5, to the disappointment of many. But what had caused Microsoft to fall so far behind in the smartphone space? In hindsight, it’s clear that Microsoft didn’t see the progress early enough. They eventually saw it, and realized that another pimped up version of the same, old interface wouldn’t take it anywhere – so, Windows Mobile 7 “Photon”, was canceled, and instead Windows Phone 7 was born. These decisions probably happened sometime in late 2008, but work on the new Windows Phone would take another two years. They needed something to hold them over – and that something was Windows Mobile 6.5, introduced at the Mobile World Congress in February 2009.

A year later, at the MWC 2010, Microsoft finally unveiled Windows Phone 7, at the time called “Windows Phone 7 Series”, though that “Series” was dropped later. Initial reactions were quite controversial – journalists and bloggers praised the slick Metro design language, while we at xda-developers thought it was too locked down, missing features… and beautiful.

With an emulator dump and a leaked Mondrian ROM available, developers scrambled to port the new OS to the HD2; a donation fund in May reached a whopping 1350$. But several things complicated this process: WP7′s ROM system was quite different from that of older WM versions, and it wasn’t open source, like Android. A proper port would probably have been impossible, if it weren’t for the fact that the HD2, along with the Toshiba TG01, was used internally as a testing device (which is also why the TG01 got a port as well). This meant that Microsoft and HTC created Windows Phone 7 drivers for it, which (thankfully) got into the hands of the Chinese DarkForcesTeam.

So, coming back to the new year of 2011: On January 12, the DarkForcesTeam released the first working Windows Phone 7 port for the HTC HD2 on their website, but it wasn’t publicly accessible yet. One day later, the ROM was posted on our forums as well, and people were all over it. This original ROM had a lot of bugs; for instance, you weren’t able to log in with your Windows Live ID to set up marketplace access. As fixes were discovered, though, these were cooked into new custom ROMs.

But when the first Windows Phone 7 update, NoDo, which brought along speed improvements and copy-and-paste, rolled out in March, there was no port in sight. Only after two months did an enterprising forum member, YukiXDA, who’s since left xda for personal reasons, take it into his own hands to figure out how to port NoDo. He even managed to do things that are impossible with real WP7 devices, like fully rooting and unlocking the ROM.

Things were different, however, when the second update, version 7.5 “Mango”, rolled out in September: YukiXDA and xboxmod had already developed a ROM that could be updated all the way to Mango, using Zune, a full month before the official update.

Still, a few bugs remain with Windows Phone 7 on the HD2 – for instance, pictures taken with flash have a green tint, and multitouch is spotty. And they probably won’t ever be fixed, since they’re all related to low-level drivers, which are practically impossible to implement without any documentation.

What else

So, we have one smartphone that’s able to run four different operating systems – Windows Mobile 6.5, Android, Windows Phone 7, and desktop Ubuntu. There’s even been work on a MeeGo port – but since Nokia jumped ship to Windows Phone, that project is on hold, though there’s still the (distant) possibility that MeeGo Harmattan, as used on the Nokia N9, could be ported over.

Anyway, with the latest Android and Windows Phone versions working on the HD2, it is surprisingly up-to-date, whereas other Windows Mobile devices have long faded into obscurity, even here on xda. Sure, development has slowed, but now, with over 1.1 million posts across all its subforums, the HD2 has over 100.000 more posts than the second most popular device, the EVO 4G. Remarkable, considering how Windows Mobile was already outdated when the HD2 was released.

Maybe there’s something special, tragic, about it, just like with the N9: It’s both ahead of its time and outdated, all at the same time. The HD2 was essentially the blueprint for the EVO 4G, HD7, Desire HD, and all those other 4.3″ devices from HTC; yet, none of these can be considered as a real successor – even though they came out later, their hardware was pretty much the same. And even though the Android devices also got lots of attention and development here on xda, they never got any meaningful ports of other operating systems. Probably no future device will, as the smartphone space is now consolidating around iOS, Android, and Windows Phone, which are all miles ahead of the old Windows Mobile in terms of usability, so there isn’t the same kind of desire, from both users and developers, to port over other operating systems.

The HD2 pushed the limits on size, speed, and industrial design for smartphones: When it came out, many found it too big, but now, there are even bigger devices; the Snapdragon went on to be included in lots of other devices; the industrial design, with impossibly thin bezels, soft-touch plastic and metal on the back, was, at the time, a class of its own. The HD2 was a great device all by itself, especially being one of the last ones to feature Windows Mobile; what made it this special, though, was the support it got from developers and our community, which refused to let it die and tweaked and hacked it until it became the most popular device in xda history.

I also have an HD2, bought in November 2010, exactly one year after it launched. If it weren’t for this community, it wouldn’t be half as awesome: it’d be stuck with Windows Mobile. Heck, if it weren’t for this community, I probably would’ve gotten another phone altogether. I’m glad I didn’t.

With this, let’s say thanks to HTC for this magnificent piece of hardware, Google for Android, Microsoft for Windows Phone, and: everyone who made the HD2 the device it is today. Normal users, themers, tweakers, hackers, developers – thank you. You’re brilliant.
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Izgleda doslo vreme da se razilazi sa winom ali mi zbog jos nekih stvari win ustvari i treba (stari garmin zbog odredjenog prikaza koordinata) a android izgleda kao jedino logicno resenje za nastavak druzenja sa smart telefonima ali opet voleo bih jos i neko vreme da koristim i win, za prvo vreme bi verovatno bio dual boot a kasnije i nand android.

Jel moze neko da mi kaze sta tacno gubim ako kupim hd2 od native android telefona, vidim da je hardverski jos uvek dobrodrzeca srednjovecna gospodja a uklopio bi mi se u budzet, ako moze i neki savet po pitanju sta kupiti dali evropsku ili americku varijantu itd ... sve sto bi eventualno moglo da mi bude korisno.

hvala
 
Jel neko popravljao usb port na HD2? Izgleda da je otisao, puni bateriju ali data transfer radi samo kada kabel "izdignem". Pitam da li je neko resio to u okviru garancije ili stapa i kanapa.
 
Možda je i bilo pomena ovde ali nije zgoreg i ponoviti. Ja tek nedavno spazih program tap tap, koj koji omogućuje da se ekran upali preko proximity senzora, prevlačenjem prsta a ne preko power tastera kako sam ja do sada radio. Meni je ovaj program zanimljiv za hd2 sobzirom na česte probleme sa otkazima tastera, pozdrav
 
Ili u CyanogenMod settings (ovo naravno zavisi od ROMa) uključiš Volume rocker wake :) Hvala za program.
 
jaffar je napisao(la):
Izgleda doslo vreme da se razilazi sa winom ali mi zbog jos nekih stvari win ustvari i treba (stari garmin zbog odredjenog prikaza koordinata) a android izgleda kao jedino logicno resenje za nastavak druzenja sa smart telefonima ali opet voleo bih jos i neko vreme da koristim i win, za prvo vreme bi verovatno bio dual boot a kasnije i nand android.

Jel moze neko da mi kaze sta tacno gubim ako kupim hd2 od native android telefona, vidim da je hardverski jos uvek dobrodrzeca srednjovecna gospodja a uklopio bi mi se u budzet, ako moze i neki savet po pitanju sta kupiti dali evropsku ili americku varijantu itd ... sve sto bi eventualno moglo da mi bude korisno.

hvala
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Ja koristim hd2 vec godinu dana.I jos uvek nemam zelju da drugim telefonom.Koristio sam i windows ( krsh ) i android....Tj android koristim sad...konkretno hyperdroid cm7.wm ne moze da se poredi sa androidom i nikad nece..jedino je problem sto fabricki ne postoji android za njega i svi su custom pravljeni i samim tim mozda cesh malo da se namuchish dok nadjesh android na kom sve radi lepo.moj savet kao sto rekoh hyperdroid cm7.Definitivno android nikako windows.Sto se htc-a kao firme tice..,..konkretno hd2...zna da ima problema za ekranima.znaju da crknu cesto ,uzasno su skupi da se zamene..,i kad se jednom zameni,95 % da ce opet da crkne....osim toga VRH :)
 
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Ja sam ga uzeo pre 3 dana i drugar mi je stavio android 2.3.7 MIUI ROM, odusevljen sam radom telefona, jedino me nervira sto imam samo 256mb interne memorije, sada kad sam ubaio neke aplikacije ostalo mi samo 32Mb.Instalirao sam A2sdxx program ali ne ce sve aplikacije da prebaci na sd karticu ( kao sto su youtobe, skajp.....).Da li moze da se poveca ta memorija, a da nemoram mnogo da cackam da nesje..nesto posto mi se bas svidja ovaj rom
 
Kada taj app2sd ispravno radi, onda NE prebacuješ ručno aplikacije na sd karticu.
App2sd zahteva ext2/3/4 particiju, koja postaje proširenje interne memorije. Sistem će tamo automatski smeštati aplikacije.
Ručno prebacivanje aplikacija na sd karticu ima za posledicu njihovo smeštanje na se karticu, ali ne na ext2/3/4 particiju, već na glavnu, tako da to ne treba raditi.
Imam preko 100 aplikacija, i slobodno oko 130MB RAMa (nakon reboot-a)
 
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Imam instalirano A2SDGUI i sad vidim da imam i App2 SD free, za neke aplikacije me pita da li hocu da ih instalira na sd i to je OK ali ima i onih za koje nepita i nece da ih prebaci
 
U konkretnom primeru ti ne mogu pomoći, jer ne poznajem A2SDGUI.
MIUI ROM sam koristio (MIUI US) ali se sećam da tada nije imao takvu aplikaciju, morala je dodatno da se instalira (koristio sam Darktremor-ov a2sd), i nije to baš uvek išlo glatko...
Ima tome dosta vremena, ne znam kako je sada.
U Hyperdroid ROM-u postoji built-in a2sd skripta bazirana na AdamG-ovoj. Radi iz prve, samo prethodno treba ispravno napraviti ext particiju.
Uopšte te ne pita gde da smešta aplikacije, to je podešeno na Automatic, i radi kako treba. Na sd-ext particiji se nalazi (automatski) i Dalvik cache.

Još jednom:
Ako ručno odabereš da aplikacija ide na SD karticu, onda NE koristiš a2sd, ili kako se već zove.
Tu praviš grešku (pod pretpostavkom da ti a2sd aplikacija ispravno radi).
 
Pozdrav ljudi!! Treba mi hitno pomoc.. Drug ima HD2 i ima fleke na ekranu, mutne kao da je crkao LCD, imate li neki predlog gde se moze nabaviti povoljno. Hitno je, hvala!!!
 
Možda probati na kupindu ? Valjda će se javiti neko da konkretnom preporukom, pozdrav
 
Hvala.. Nasli smo ekran, ali mu govore kako niko ne sme da preuzme odgovornost da namesta ili mu traze fazon 40-50e samo za ruke.. msm ok je cena od 50e za ekran ali jos 50e za ruke je mng.. realno!
 
Narode ponovo ja.. Na vec pomenutom HD2 je instaliran android 2.2.1 ali mu je interna memorija samo 13 mb, na koji nacin je moguce korigovati to?
 
Napiši koji ROM je instaliran.
Verovatno neki glomazni, sa Sense, pa je pravljena velika particija.
Za male ROMove, recimo CM7, dovoljna je particija 120MB, čak i manja. Još sa a2sd podrškom, imaćeš i 200MB slobodno, uz sve aplikacije instalirane.
I dalje sam na Hyperdroid ROMu, testira se novi build. Budućnost je malo neizvesna, jer je jedan od ključnih developera napustio HD2 vode.
 
Ne mogu da provalim, ali evo prepisacu sta pise u software information:
Android version:
2.2.1
Baseband version:
15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14
Kernel:
2.6.32.15rafpigna_2.0_OC-g1042123
Root@rafpigna... i nesto nebitno msm ne znam ni da li je ovo bitno.. jel moze odavde da se zakljuci?
 
Seader. Prešao čovek na native Android, Sensation, ako se ne varam.

@ProMaster: ne može. Razmotri flešovanje.

P.S. Duško, još si na miui.us?
 
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MIUI jeste al' langthang-ov. Sto se tice developer-a, ja se ne brinem. Danas vise ni jedan developer od onih koji su zapoceli portovanje androida vise nije aktivan a romovi i kerneli samo pljuste. Jedni odlaze drugi dolaze. Nije aktivan odavno ni dcordes ni cr2, nema ni gaunera, markinusa, rajka, cotule a prica se nastavlja. Razvoj ICS ni malo ne zaostaje za drugim uredjajima
 
To je sportski duh :)
Ne odustajem ni ja od HD2, ali stalno gledam Android telefone. I svakom nađem manu ;-)
 
HyperDroid-CM7-Licking-Lobster-v5.6.0!
Biće dostupan za download u narednih sat vremena, i cLK i MAGLDR verzija!

Napomenuo bih nekoliko važnih stvari:

1. ROM je Made in Ex-Yu!! Kernel je Fikretov (fhasovic), a za ROM je najzaslužniji clyder.

2. Ubačen je Market dpi compatibility hack, i ubačen je novi dialer, koji konačno ima contact search!

Topla preporuka svim ljubiteljima CM7 ROMova!
 
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