Gothic 3?

[Nothingman]

Mozda je vec neko okachio ovaj preview jer je star dvadesetak dana...

PC Gamer preview

by Greg Vederman

"It's hard not to feel a little sorry for the creators of the Gothic series. Few gamers are aware that a surprising amount of what made Bethseda's Oblivion so great in early 2006- loads of voiced dialog, elements of its combat system, and its life-like AI routines that allowed NPCs to go about their daily business in a lifelike way- had already been done brilliantly in Gothic 2 back in 2003. Clunky controls and an unwieldy UI led to relatively weak sales of G2 in the US, so there will be plenty of gamers coming to Gothic 3 this fall thinking it's merely an Oblivion knock-off. Oh, how wrong they'll be. In fact, Gothic 3 is shaping up to be the Oblivion many of us wish we'd gotten.
G3 is a first/third-person RPG set in a fantastical open-ended land filled with over 50 unique monsters, 50 spells, countless weapons, armor, loot, and quests. Its class-free character development system lets you train your character in a wide variety of physical combat disciplines and magical powers. Sounds familiar, right? But unlike most RPGs, G3 places you in a land after it has suffered a major defeat, one that has no relation to anything you did in earlier chapters. Orcs have invaded the world and made mankind their slaves, and you're one of only a handful of free humans remaining. It's up to you to decide if you want to go out of your way to save your fellow humans or your own hide.
What I found most interesting and surprisingly invigorating as I played an early build of G3 is the absence of a sense of impending doom. The worst, it seems, is over, and rather than running around in a panic, closing "dimensional gates," I felt like a real adventurer in a real medieval land, taking missions at my own pace without feeling like I was being forced down a path.
That's not to say that the world was sitting around waiting for me. In stark contrast to Oblivion, if you don't finish many of the quests in G3 within a certain period of time, events will play out on their own. For example, you may be asked to help the humans storm a castle that has been overrun by orcs. You can go along on the raid with your AI buddies and help turn the tide, but if you don't, and you go to that castle later, you may find that the battle has already happened and that either the humans or the orcs have won.
Graphically, G3 is up there with Oblivion- a little worse in places (e.g., low-res ground textures), but a little better in others (e.g., draw distance)- and the world has a grittier, dirtier, more lived-in feel. One aspect where it has Oblivion beat hands-down is load times: Once G3 starts up, there are none- the world streams in seamlessly.
As someone who loved Oblivion and appreciated its huge variety of voiced dialog, even I must admit that the game's limited number of voice actors made NPCs seem generic, but Piranha assured me that G3's 20+ hours of voice dialog are being recorded by a whopping 25 actors, hopefully ensuring that the game's hundreds of unique-looking NPCs also have distinct personalities.
With its controls and UI finally up to modern standards and the series' revolutionary features blinged out like never before, Gothic 3 is poised to give ravenous RPG fans their largest, juiciest meal since Bethseda fed them at the start of the year."

 

[Nothingman]

Isporuka Gothic 3 diskova je vec stigla u Cesku. Tako da ce oni defininitivno poceti prodaju 13. oktobra.

http://gothic-rpg.com/index.php3?jazyk=en&page=1

Na istom sajtu se moze pogledati i cover od Ceske verzije, na kome pisu i zvanicni system requirements.
Takodje, igra je dobila niz negativnih ocena od strane raznih casopisa (mada su oni valjda testirali nedovrsenu verziju, ali ko zna). Izgleda da su ocene od 90% i vise dobili samo od nemackih i austrijskih casopisa :wall:

 

[Milan82bh]

i najbitnije
GameStar Video Part 1/3 - The beginning of Gothic³.

GameStar Video Part 2/3 - Playing with a skilled character.

GameStar Video Part 3/3 - Starting a rebellion.

GameStar Technic Video - Showing different settings

Da li neko zna na kojoj je masini ovo terano?

 

[***mr23]

Game looks really great! But we have to add, that Gamestar played it on configuration: AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2 GB RAM and GeForce 7800 GT, what is better than official recommended configuration, and GS didnt't have all graphics options on

Detaljnije na prethodno datom linku
http://gothic-rpg.com/index.php3?jazyk=en&page=1

 

[Lurker]

Takodje, igra je dobila niz negativnih ocena od strane raznih casopisa (mada su oni valjda testirali nedovrsenu verziju, ali ko zna).

Upravo tako:

Just to add some facts though:

- PC Games awarded Gothic III a score of 87% based on the old, buggy goldmaster version that no one except for the reviewer is ever going to play, saying the game might get 90%+ if/when properly patched.
- Gamestar awarded Gothic III a score of 85% based on the old, buggy goldmaster version that no one except for the reviewer is ever going to play, saying the game might/will get 89% if/when properly patched.
- PC Powerplay issued no rating due to the old, buggy goldmaster version that no one except for the reviewer is ever going to play.
- PC Action issued no rating due to the old, buggy goldmaster version that no one except for the reviewer is ever going to play.
- Austrian Gamers.at awarded Gothic III a score of 91% based on the old, buggy goldmaster version that no one except for the reviewer is ever going to play.
- It was the mags who discovered the save game corruption bug that made JoWood withdraw the first goldmaster.
- The new goldmaster included not only a fix for the save game corruption bug (which was obviously the biggest issue) but also many other fixes. The new, real goldmaster was not reviewed yet but is currently in testing, i.e. it has presumably been shipped to the mags and also to WoG who seem to be quite happy with it so far. Knowing how vocal they usually are when stuff is messed up, one could even call it a good sign that they haven't posted any whiny newsbits ever since they got the test version.
- There is an interview with JoWood and PB on WoG (not sure if it has been translated to English yet) where they comment on the issue of two goldmasters. They seem to be very confident that the release version is in good shape.

 

[goran.a]

Pih,toliko dugo praviti igru i opet je zamalo isporuciti sa milion bagova?!:wall: Pazite,na vise mesta kazu da je prvobitna gold verzija toliko bagovita da je verovatno niko sem onoga koji mora,tojest opisuje,ne bi igrao.:trust: Drzim da je nemoguce tako nesto ispraviti za toliko vremena koliko im je trebalo da izbace gold no. 2.Ipak cemo dobiti poprilicno bagovitu verziju,zivi bili pa videli.Ima smisla ono sto je voodoo rekao,da treba da cekamo mirror.

 

[BlackNeo]

Pazite,na vise mesta kazu da je prvobitna gold verzija toliko bagovita da je verovatno niko sem onoga koji mora,tojest opisuje,ne bi igrao.:trust:

Nisi shvatio, kazu da tu (staru gold) verziju niko nece igrati, osim ovih sto su je dobili na testiranje, tako da oni ne mogu donositi odluke na osnovu necega sto nisu igrali (nisu igrali patch-ovanu igru).

 

[goran.a]

Nisi shvatio, kazu da tu (staru gold) verziju niko nece igrati, osim ovih sto su je dobili na testiranje, tako da oni ne mogu donositi odluke na osnovu necega sto nisu igrali (nisu igrali patch-ovanu igru).

Da li je receno na vise mesta da je ta verzija uzasno bagovita?

 

[Nothingman]

I ja se plasim da nas u verziji od 13. oktobra ceka gomila bagova :crash:
Mozda sacekati USA verziju? Mada ne verujem da neko ima toliko strpljenja...pre ce biti save game svakih 5 minuta :-devil-:

 

[Adanos]

Ko ceka taj doceka Prvo cu sacekati prve reviewe pa ako i tad bude bila bagovita cekacu patch. necu dozvoliti da mi nestrpljenje pokvari dozivljaj

 

[Milan82bh]

Znaci kao da cete dati pare za igru.

 

[Adanos]

Ja 'ocu sigurno. Ovo je jedna od retkih igara koje cu posedovati u originalu. Cim krenem na faks ima da jurim i Morrowind (original naravno) po NS-u

 

[goran.a]

Znaci kao da cete dati pare za igru.

Eto vidis Milane.Adanos i ja cemo zajedno dati par desetina eura.On nesto vise a ja nesto manje.

 

[Milan82bh]

Aj' date meni te pare a ja cu da vam napravim da izgleda "kao" original. Znaci sve sa onom kutijom, bonus "The Art of G3" diskom i ostalim stvarima koje idu uz nju.
A sad malo ozbiljnosti...

Slazem se da treba kupovati farmerke, majce, gace, jakne... ali se isto tako slazem da je jeftinije kupiti prazan nego pun disk. :
Ne mogu da razumem ljude koji ce pre da daju za 15e(ili vise) mesecno predplatu za WOW, L2, GW ili vec neku shestu MMOG igru nego da taj novac iskoriste za neke pametnije stvari tip teretana, balon, rava...

Komponente su neka druga prica, jer kompjuter ne sluzi svakom' za igranje
Pamet u'glavu i novac trosite na neke pametnije stvari, nebitno u kojim kolicinama ga imate, a za ostalo ce se pobrinuti .torr .emu i ostale alternative za vas koje ionako pljacka telekom.

 

[Stanmar]

Ace Games Preview 03.oct.06

The Gothic series ahs always been very popular in Europe, but has only slowly gained in popularity in North America. Some of the reasons for that include very slow release of the English versions of the first two games, limited marketing and a control system that remains a point of heated debate among RPG fans around the world. Last winter, Aspyr Media gained the publishing rights for Gothic 3 in North America and quickly made a move that gained them instant respect in the eyes of RPG fans - they published Gothic 2 Gold, which included the original game and the Night of the Raven expansion together for a budget price.

Gothic told the tale of a nameless hero who brought down the barrier and defeated the Sleeper. Gothic 2 extended that story, as our hero had to vanquish a great evil on the island of Khorinis under the shadow of an Orc invasion. Yet even as we played that story, we knew that the Orc war wasn't going well on the mainland, and as we sailed away at the end of Gothic 2 it seemed that the world that greeted our band of travellers would not be a particularly happy place. This is where Gothic 3 begins - the humans have lost the war and the mainland of Myrtana is controlled by the Orcs.

As you land at the port of Ardea, your companions - Gorn, Diego, Lester and Milton - head off in different directions to pursue their own goals (you will see Xardas, but no word on other characters such as Lee) and you are left to discover what's been going on in Myrtana. Unlike other games - including Gothic 2 - you won't start out as a 'level 0 rat killer'. In fact, with the starting skills you should be able to take on a low level Orc, something that was definitely not possible in Gothic 2!

The world of Gothic 3 is HUGE - the overall world is estimated to be nearly five times (!) as big as Gothic 2 (including Night of the Raven), with three huge regions populated by different groups - the Nordmar are in the icy northern regions and the Assassins are in the southern desert regions, while the Orcs and humans inhabit the remainder of Myrtana. You are given a lot of freedom throughout the game - not just in class and skill development like in most RPGs, but in terms of how you will align yourself. That's right - just because you're a human doesn't mean that you need to side with the human rebellion! You can side with the occupying Orcs and put down the rebels, or you can join the Assassins, a self-serving group loosely allied with the Orcs by nature of providing them human slaves. The Orcs in Gothic 3 are not the brutish barbarians you encountered in Gothic 2, but a well-organized and intelligent military society. Choosing your alliance leads you to one of three possible endings; additionally each faction alliance has multiple paths towards the ending, depending on choices you make throughout the game. The overarching story contains both secular and spiritual elements, as in the previous games; in Gothic 3 the secular part obviously relates to the Orc occupation, but it isn't clear how the Gods will be involved just yet.

I just have to reiterate that again - despite the fact that the world of Gothic 3 is only slightly smaller than the world of Oblivion, there are NO load screens. You can travel from the top to the bottom of the world, entering buildings and water and exploring everything, and never see a single load screen - an incredibly impressive feat.

In Gothic 2, one of the toughest choices was your guild affiliation - would you become a Paladin, a Mercenary or a Mage? In Gothic 3 you can switch guild affiliations, so your decision isn't final - but this is not like in Oblivion, where you could have simultaneous membership in the 'Cheese Lovers' and 'Cheese Haters' guilds. The ability to join a guild - or to ally with a certain faction - is dependent upon your actions and how the group in question perceives you.

But let's look for a moment at the top two complaints about Gothic 2 - the interface and the controls. The complaints were of inadequate mouse support in the menus and combat system, poor contrast in menus and difficult combat controls. The user interface is much better and more polished here - the inventory is categorized and there is a quick bar at the bottom for speedy access to critical items. There were many who loved the controls (myself included) - but few would argue that they didn't require effort to learn. The developers have listened to the comments of their audience and implemented a full keyboard and mouse system that is consistent throughout the game and extends the combat system while maintaining a feel that fans of the series will find familiar. For example, clicking to attack right after jumping initiates a special jump attack - if you have the combat perk to enable that attack. More on perks in a bit. The combat system can differentiate between short, normal and long clicks to trigger different attack types, while the left and right mouse buttons can be combined to create special power attacks and finishing moves. Ordinarily the right mouse button would be used to block and parry attacks.

Perks are something new to the series - they are ways of gaining special skills as you accrue experience. There are a total of seventy perks available, in areas including combat, hunting, magic, smithing, thieving, alchemy and 'other'. These are referred to as professions and naturally you will not be able to gain all perks in all professions, so you will need to choose your specializations carefully. Some perks can only be learned from certain trainers and some require gold or solving quests. All of them require you to spend precious LP (learning points), which are awarded as you level up, as with the previous games. Current information has perks costing 5 LP each, while attributes cost 1 LP each. There are nine attributes, including strength, hunting, ancient knowledge (this relates to magic and learning spells from scrolls and stone tablets), smithing/forging, thievery, alchemy, life, stamina and mana. Stamina is a new attribute and is obviously important, as certain moves and attacks consume more energy than others. In addition, doing anything in Nordmar or Varant will take more stamina due to the extremes of heat and cold. Of course, there will be a way to mitigate those effects, but you will have to earn it like everything else!

Playing as a mage in Gothic 2 was akin to an Ironman Challenge - rewarding but very difficult. Gothic 3 will still expect magic users to be able to wield a blade, but between the perks and more than forty spells, they are developing a system that looks to be much more attractive for players looking to be a mage on their first time through. There's a host of new spells that are certain to make the mouths of dedicated mages water, including a variation of the slow spell that traps your enemies in a bubble where time is slowed, allowing you to get in more attacks on them as they flounder around trying to respond. Magic is learned somewhat differently - it isn't available from the very beginning by simply reading scrolls; instead you will have to search for scrolls and ancient stone tablets, which you then need to take to an altar where you pray to learn the spells.

I say "first time through" because the developers have made it clear that there is no way to see everything on a single play-through. The developers estimate that playing through the game will take you about 50 hours if you stick close to the main quest and as much as 100 hours if you try to do all quests available to you. There are about 500 total quests available and playing different characters to complete every quest in the game would add another 150 hours, according to estimates - now that's a lot of gaming! Within the three regions there are about twenty towns, with the capital of Myrtana, Vengard, being the largest. Vengard is reportedly somewhat larger than Khorinis, but the rest of the towns are smaller. Like in previous Gothic games you'll need to find the map of the world yourself - there are still teleport runes and teleportation locations throughout the game, so you won't have to walk through the whole world over and again, but there are no horses for riding. There is tons of spoken dialogue by at least thirty voice actors - some reports state there are over 250,000 lines of voiced dialogue in the game! Naturally there are tons of unique enemies and items to encounter and discover, and you can occasionally enlist support from NPCs or trainers to help you and teach you things as you travel.

With all of this I'm sure you're wondering "When can I get it?" No, actually your first thought is more likely "Can my PC handle it?" The minimum system requirements being quoted online are fairly significant - a 2GHz PC with 1GB of memory and a decent video card with at least 128MB of memory, as well as a DVD drive and nearly 5GB of free hard disk space. A 3GHz PC with a 256MB video card is recommended. The only concern for most gamers at the lower end is the 1GB of memory - but given that there are no loading zones this shouldn't be a surprise - where do you expect the game to store all of that stuff?! Also, despite the fact that the picture of the box says 'CD-ROM', the game will ship on a DVD.

Previewed by Michael Anderson for AceGamez (All Rights Reserved).

 

[Nothingman]

Aj' date meni te pare a ja cu da vam napravim da izgleda "kao" original. Znaci sve sa onom kutijom, bonus "The Art of G3" diskom i ostalim stvarima koje idu uz nju.
A sad malo ozbiljnosti...

Slazem se da treba kupovati farmerke, majce, gace, jakne... ali se isto tako slazem da je jeftinije kupiti prazan nego pun disk. :
Ne mogu da razumem ljude koji ce pre da daju za 15e(ili vise) mesecno predplatu za WOW, L2, GW ili vec neku shestu MMOG igru nego da taj novac iskoriste za neke pametnije stvari tip teretana, balon, rava...

Komponente su neka druga prica, jer kompjuter ne sluzi svakom' za igranje
Pamet u'glavu i novac trosite na neke pametnije stvari, nebitno u kojim kolicinama ga imate, a za ostalo ce se pobrinuti .torr .emu i ostale alternative za vas koje ionako pljacka telekom.

Nisi ni svestan koliko nisi u pravu. Mrzi me sad da pishem jer sam mrtav umoran i idem da spavam, ali taj nacin razmisljanja je veoma stetan po celo drustvo u Srbiji.

 

[ivke76]

mesecno predplatu za WOW, L2, GW ili vec neku shestu MMOG igru

GW je pure srbijanska igra jednom das pare i djipas kolko oces nema predplate

 

[voodoo_]

Ne mogu da razumem ljude koji ce pre da daju za 15e(ili vise) mesecno predplatu za WOW, L2, GW ili vec neku shestu MMOG igru nego da taj novac iskoriste za neke pametnije stvari tip teretana, balon, rava...

Teretana i rave su podjednako besmisleni ko i WOW i GW
Mislim, jel ti radiš kao drvoseča pa ti treba teretana da budeš bolji na poslu? Ili dobijaš XP za svaku ravu?
(mislim ja ne trošim pare ni na jedno ni na drugo, al eto )

 

[G!!!]

Aj' date meni te pare a ja cu da vam napravim da izgleda "kao" original. Znaci sve sa onom kutijom, bonus "The Art of G3" diskom i ostalim stvarima koje idu uz nju.
A sad malo ozbiljnosti...

Slazem se da treba kupovati farmerke, majce, gace, jakne... ali se isto tako slazem da je jeftinije kupiti prazan nego pun disk. :
Ne mogu da razumem ljude koji ce pre da daju za 15e(ili vise) mesecno predplatu za WOW, L2, GW ili vec neku shestu MMOG igru nego da taj novac iskoriste za neke pametnije stvari tip teretana, balon, rava...

Komponente su neka druga prica, jer kompjuter ne sluzi svakom' za igranje
Pamet u'glavu i novac trosite na neke pametnije stvari, nebitno u kojim kolicinama ga imate, a za ostalo ce se pobrinuti .torr .emu i ostale alternative za vas koje ionako pljacka telekom.

:eyebrows: predlazem ti da radis sklekove i da forsiras desanku ne bi li ustedeo i tih 15ak evrica nije sve u parama, ima nesto i u drugarstvu


nego zar se nije negde spominjalo da ce biti neki patch ukljuchen u ovu drugu gold verziju

 

[Adanos]

Pa ako neko napravi neko remek delo meni je stvarno krivo sto im kradem pare. To vama moze biti smesno ali ljudi su radili i patili se, zaradili su oni petocifrene kolicine novca i mojih 30-40 evra im nece biti bog zna sta ali kad bi svi razmisljali kao ti nikome se ne bi isplatilo da pravi igre.
Npr. ja sam kupio original Diablo, Diablo 2 i expanziju za 2-jku, arcanum, sillent hill 3 i veruj mi nijednom se nisam pokajao zbog potrosenih para. Planiram da kupim Morrowind (sa expanzijama), Oblivion, Gothic 1,2 i 3 A sad polako u ostvarivanje zacrtanog cilja :guitar:

P.S. Kako je jak osecaj kad znas da nesto valja pa pre pocetka igre uzmes knjizicu sto dobijes uz igru i polako je procitas, upalis se i krenes da uzivas u igri

 

[Vlasterx]

definitivno se isplati dati pare za igre koje vrede nečemu. Ja do sada imam svega par originala koje sam kupio: Battlefield 2 i Guld Wars. Za BF2 se nisam zeznuo 100.000.000% jer je extra igrati je preko neta na rankovanim serverima. Nema drndanja oko krekova i sl. aktivnosti.

Mada, ovo se odnosi na retko koju igru. Većina koje se pojave se odigraju jednom ili se samo uključe, pa uninstall i zbog toga se ne treba rasipati. Nađeš i probaš prvo narodnu verziju igre i ako ti se sviđa, kupiš original i pičiš

+ zezanje preko neta sa "virtuelnim drugarima" je doživljaj za sebe k: Mnogo bolji od rave i ostalih opijata

 

[SINTER]

pa i mnogo je isplativije da ukrades hleb u pekari nego da ga kupis.
da svi ljudi razmisljaju kao ti ne bi ni bilo igara,zar ne?

 

[Milan82bh]

Paz' sad...

Ok pogresno sam se izrazio povredivsi posao dizajnera, 3d modelara, programera i drugih ali...

Nisi ni svestan koliko nisi u pravu. Mrzi me sad da pishem jer sam mrtav umoran i idem da spavam, ali taj nacin razmisljanja je veoma stetan po celo drustvo u Srbiji.

Ahahahahaha...vecu glupost odavno nisam cuo...prosvetli me sveti covece, ziveo sam dugo godina pod staklenim zvonom.

Teretana i rave su podjednako besmisleni ko i WOW i GW
Mislim, jel ti radiš kao drvoseča pa ti treba teretana da budeš bolji na poslu? Ili dobijaš XP za svaku ravu?
(mislim ja ne trošim pare ni na jedno ni na drugo, al eto )

Dobro izvini bukvalisto, dao sam samo primer, slicno je i moje razmisljanje.

Predlazem ti da radis sklekove i da forsiras desanku ne bi li ustedeo i tih 15ak evrica nije sve u parama, ima nesto i u drugarstvu

Ti meni predlazes!!!! Hahahahahah...

Pa ako neko napravi neko remek delo meni je stvarno krivo sto im kradem pare. To vama moze biti smesno ali ljudi su radili i patili se, zaradili su oni petocifrene kolicine novca i mojih 30-40 evra im nece biti bog zna sta ali kad bi svi razmisljali kao ti nikome se ne bi isplatilo da pravi igre.
Npr. ja sam kupio original Diablo, Diablo 2 i expanziju za 2-jku, arcanum, sillent hill 3 i veruj mi nijednom se nisam pokajao zbog potrosenih para. Planiram da kupim Morrowind (sa expanzijama), Oblivion, Gothic 1,2 i 3 A sad polako u ostvarivanje zacrtanog cilja

Ispravio sam se.

Ali ovo...:crash:

P.S. Kako je jak osecaj kad znas da nesto valja pa pre pocetka igre uzmes knjizicu sto dobijes uz igru i polako je procitas, upalis se i krenes da uzivas u igri

Zezanje preko neta sa "virtuelnim drugarima" je doživljaj za sebe k: Mnogo bolji od rave i ostalih opijata

Idite prcajte nesto...

Pa i mnogo je isplativije da ukrades hleb u pekari nego da ga kupis.
da svi ljudi razmisljaju kao ti ne bi ni bilo igara,zar ne?

Ne, a to cime se bavis u slobodno vreme me uopste ne interesuje.

Nego...

Slazem se da treba dati pare za nesto sto vredi, da ne kazem - neku igru za sva vremena, ali bre biti opsednut time je nenormalno, jednostavno nije zdravo. Kao narkosi. Mnogi ce biti polaskani kad im neko kaze "brate ti si zaludjen igrama" i time ce se ponositi, jer je glupa masa.
Nece ta Piranha Bytes niti Bethesda propasti zato sto ja i jos milion drugih nece kupiti njihovu igru.
Kako bre ne kapirate, mi smo siromasna zemlja i tako ce biti jos dugo,dugo vremena a sigurno necemo prosperirati time sto cemo da kupujemo original diskove.
Iako nisam partiota uvek cu pre da kupim original Plan Plus, Alliance ili neku trecu stvar domaceg porekla i time podsteknem dalji napredak nego da finansiram tamo neke nemce ili amere.
Pa nisam ja izmislio p2p, torrent, nisam ja prvi poceo da razbijam zastite softvera niti neko iz srbije nego bas ti isti ameri, nemci, kinezi i ostali freakovi. Sto mislite da oni ne mogu da izdvoje 30-40 ili 50e za original disk...ma daj.

U svakom slucaju Gothic3 ce biti odlicna igra kakva je bila i kec i dvojka i tu nema sumnje.

 

[Adanos]

Druze ja imam devojku, izlazim svaki dan, pr*am bar 3 puta nedeljno a igre mi dodju kao hobi, ali ima nekih koje mi jednostavno udju pod kozu. Ne mora da znaci da cim neko voli igre da je zaludjenik

 

[goran.a]

Milane suvise si se osetio prozvanim.Ljudima koji su pravili Gothic nije mi zao da dam pare (druga je stvar sto ih trenutno nemam ) jer su mi podarili sate i sate uzivanja....

 

[Nothingman]

Ahahahahaha...vecu glupost odavno nisam cuo...prosvetli me sveti covece, ziveo sam dugo godina pod staklenim zvonom.

Kao prvo, chemu takav ton? Da li sam te nechim uvredio?
Drugo...tema uopste nije smesna. Sama cinjenica da piraterija u Srbiji ima ove razmere je tuzna. Posledica toga je da ljudi ovde kradju uzimaju zdravo za gotovo. Prodaja i koristenje piratskog softvera je kradja...a ona se ovde desava svakodnevno. Druga strana svega toga je da time u korenu ubijamo i srpsku game industriju (kao i software industriju uopste). Ok, kazes da treba kupovati farmerke i gace a ne i software? Zasto? Koja je razlika izmedju farmerki i video igrice? Obe stavke imaju upotrebnu i trzisnu vrednost, u obe je ulozen ljudski rad, obe obezbedjuju nekome egzistenciju. Jedina razlika je sto je software lako ukrasti a farmerke nije.
Takvim razmisljanjem da je ispravno piratovati igre se potcenjuje tudji rad, a ako neko drustvo (u velikoj vecini) ne ceni tudji rad, onda je ono u velikim problemima.
Ali to nije tesko zakljuciti ni ako se pogleda kako zivimo Za to nam nije niko drugi kriv...imamo tacno ono sto zasluzujemo...

p.s. ti se sada mozes opet nasmejati na sve ovo, i reci kako su to gluposti, ali situacija je takva i izgleda da dugo nece biti bolje po tom pitanju.

 

[goran.a]

Beh,taman pomislim da cu nesto novo saznati o igri a vi i dalje o pirateriji za ili protiv.

 

[Milan82bh]

Beh,taman pomislim da cu nesto novo saznati o igri a vi i dalje o pirateriji za ili protiv.

Chek samo malo da zavrsimo sad ovu diskusiju pa cemo da pricamo o igri...

Kao prvo, chemu takav ton? Da li sam te nechim uvredio?
Drugo...tema uopste nije smesna. Sama cinjenica da piraterija u Srbiji ima ove razmere je tuzna. Posledica toga je da ljudi ovde kradju uzimaju zdravo za gotovo. Prodaja i koristenje piratskog softvera je kradja...a ona se ovde desava svakodnevno. Druga strana svega toga je da time u korenu ubijamo i srpsku game industriju (kao i software industriju uopste). Ok, kazes da treba kupovati farmerke i gace a ne i software? Zasto? Koja je razlika izmedju farmerki i video igrice? Obe stavke imaju upotrebnu i trzisnu vrednost, u obe je ulozen ljudski rad, obe obezbedjuju nekome egzistenciju. Jedina razlika je sto je software lako ukrasti a farmerke nije.
Takvim razmisljanjem da je ispravno piratovati igre se potcenjuje tudji rad, a ako neko drustvo (u velikoj vecini) ne ceni tudji rad, onda je ono u velikim problemima.
Ali to nije tesko zakljuciti ni ako se pogleda kako zivimo Za to nam nije niko drugi kriv...imamo tacno ono sto zasluzujemo...

p.s. ti se sada mozes opet nasmejati na sve ovo, i reci kako su to gluposti, ali situacija je takva i izgleda da dugo nece biti bolje po tom pitanju.

Kapiram ja sta ti meni hoces da predocis ali nazalost ja to vec sve znam. Sto se tona tice stavio sam smajli na kraju...
Dakle'm
Vidi, jedna stvar je kada ti sa carapom na glavi udjes u banku, a druga kada "nesto" svuces sa interneta. U oba slucaja se vrsi kradja ali ovo drugo nije krivicno delo. To da smo mi nauceni da krademo, lazemo i otimamo jedni od drugih to je surova realnost i o tome necemo da diskutujemo.

Ok, kazes da treba kupovati farmerke i gace a ne i software? Zasto? Koja je razlika izmedju farmerki i video igrice?

Kako koja? Pa farmerke i gace su potreba a igre su zadovoljstvo. Farmerke moras da kupis da ne bi isao go po ulici i da ti se ljudi ne bi smejali a igru mozes da skines sa neta probas, pa ako ti se svidi i kupis. Zamisli kako bi bilo da udjes u butik uzmes neke "gace" i kazes "Ja samo malo da ih ispobam, par dana pa cu da ih uzmem ako mi odgovaraju". Loodilo a?
A zasto uvek potenciras rec "ukrasti" pa niodkoga ja ne kradem ja samo probam, na kraju svakog .NFO fajla lepo pise "If you like this game BUY it, good software companies should be supported" i to je to.

Takvim razmisljanjem da je ispravno piratovati igre se potcenjuje tudji rad, a ako neko drustvo (u velikoj vecini) ne ceni tudji rad, onda je ono u velikim problemima.

Sto ja sam pirat ako skidam sa interneta za licne potrebe, sta?

Aj reci mi iskreno jel bi imao ti para da kupujes mesecno 2-3 igre + 1-2 softverska alata ili paketa ili sta vec, placas reket telekomu 1500din za adsl i dajes 15e predplatu za neku multiplayer igru?
pozdrav

PS.
Pre nego sto(ako) odgovoris, podseticu te da je cena jedne "new release game" oko 4000 dinara ako ne i vise i eto nek' je neki softver 10-20e.

 

[G!!!]

Ti meni predlazes!!!! Hahahahahah...

dude, sto si izbrisao smajlije iz quote-a... pufff.. get a life...

 

[zeljkoBU]

Jel ovo pocetak story-ja u G3 ili samo offtopic? :trust: