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50x od dna, ne 50x od cene na kojoj se pola foruma natovarilo :D
 
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Coin Fire has been able to exclusively confirm that an “active” investigation of GAW Miners, Josh Garza, Paybase, Paycoin, and several other “operating names” for Mr. Garza is underway by the United States Securities and Exchange Commission.
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Svi kace link na trollchat-u na btc-e i ja ceo dan to ne mogu da otvorim.
 
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Coin Fire has been able to exclusively confirm that an “active” investigation of GAW Miners, Josh Garza, Paybase, Paycoin, and several other “operating names” for Mr. Garza is underway by the United States Securities and Exchange Commission.

Coin Fire has obtained over 1,000 pages of an investigation file from a confirmed Commission employee that also has a bombshell draft of a potential enforcement litigation action against the company. The documents given to Coin Fire editors contain several hundred references to deleted forum posts on the company owned-and-operated Hashtalk forums, emails from potential victims of securities fraud, news stories from various websites, numerous social media postings, a sealed subpoena demanding the IPs associated with certain accounts on a well-known site where Garza and potential sock puppets have operated, and several storyboards from videos uploaded by the embattled company that enforcement attorneys are stating contain many confirmations of potential wrongdoing.

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The documents provided to Coin Fire are the raw investigation notes being used to decide whether an enforcement action against the company will take place. Many of the items inside the investigation jacket are outside of the standard scope of an SEC investigation.

The Commission is a bureau of the government dedicated to financial fraud or financial crimes as opposed to consumer fraud. While the documents contain allegations against the company from consumers of misappropriations or other potential fraud, the only sections highlighted or referenced in other locations of the document are sections containing specifics about the offering of illegal securities.

One of the cornerstones for the investigation and draft enforcement action is related to three statements Mr. Garza made online that the Commission feels qualified Mr. Garza’s sales as an illegal securities offering. Enforcement attorneys spent several weeks gathering data that Mr. Garza made several efforts to “scrub” from the Internet.

The first major statement that our editorial team has seen highlighted in these documents is a statement from Mr. Garza in August of 2014. Mr. Garza stated that a percentage of the profits for ZenPool came from “day trading.” The fact that he stated it was from day trading created a situation in which, according to various securities laws, makes it a security. This is the first major cornerstone that the SEC intends on using in a potential enforcement action.

Coin Fire is unable to give the other two statements at this time due to potentially compromising the security of the ongoing investigation; however, both statements made by Mr. Garza are large parts of the investigation.

The commission also detailed in a time-line style accounting the events running up to even more recent events, such as the failed “floor” from statements made by Mr. Garza, but later edited on the Hashtalk site and other cryptocurrency news sites.

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Enforcement attorneys for the Commission also drafted reports for potential future litigation stating,

“[..] it is our belief that Mr. Garza has been systematically with the assistance of his employees and “moderation team” been removing large portions of potential evidence from his websites and employing the services of attorneys used to intimidate other sites to remove potential evidence from the public record.”

The jacket contains more than simply evidence of potential wrongdoing by the company. It also has extensive draft court documents that could later be filed against the company and principles of the company.

One document has information about Cantor Fitzgerald’s Stuart Fraser and his involvement with the ongoing saga. The document confirms that Mr. Fraser is involved as an investor (a statement which Coin Fire and many other sites have been unable to verify until this document) and shows that some unwanted SEC attention could be coming his way as well.

The commission jacket also contains extensive evidence archived by victims on the Internet and has draft documents seeking subpoenas in the future requesting copies of the relevant information provided by consumers and victims to certify them for potential future court use.

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Other sections of the investigation jacket are relevant about more recent events with the launch of trading platforms or the purchase of trading platforms upon which the company allows customers to buy, sell, or trade Paycoin. The commission believes that direct market manipulation has also taken place.

As our editorial team and attorneys have sifted through the pages of the jacket, it has become more clear that Mr. Garza’s moves to both remove information from the Internet and restrict others from sharing information indicates that the agency has become more emboldened to seek further outside information.

Coin Fire is working diligently with our editorial team and legal team to decide which parts of the jacket can be shared without jeopardizing the investigation, our sources within the SEC, or potential third parties from destroying further evidence. We will be sharing these documents and information over the next several months in a series dedicated to this ongoing story as we are able to do so.

While the SEC has yet to file or begin any active enforcement actions against Mr. Garza or the associated companies, they have begun amassing potential evidence for those actions and are seeking further information from those in the public who feel they are a victim of securities fraud.

Our source shared the following information with our team stating,

Those who feel they are potential victim of securities fraud should immediately contact the Securities and Exchange Commission with as much relevant information they have. The proper website for doing so is:

http://www.sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml

While the act of reaching an investigation point can take several months or even potentially years, the more information the agency has of potential wrongdoing, the more resources can be dedicated to the investigation and potential enforcement.

This post and series is the result of the work of Leo, Mike, and Christina from the Coin Fire team.
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Americki sudovi kad se umesaju sve uniste, vazi za sve sudove ne samo za americke inace... BFL su napravili najgori scenario (pogotovo sto nisu bili scam firma vec su podbacili sa obecanjima ali na kraju je vecina zbog sud-a prakticno ostala bez icega... za GAW sam rekao jos pre par nedelja da ne vredi rizikovat, imaju interni market gde minere mozete prodati za 12h, ja sam ih sve prodao pre blizu 2 meseca i povukao sve BTC-e
 
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Americki sudovi kad se umesaju sve uniste, vazi za sve sudove ne samo za americke inace... BFL su napravili najgori scenario (pogotovo sto nisu bili scam firma vec su podbacili sa obecanjima ali na kraju je vecina zbog sud-a prakticno ostala bez icega... za GAW sam rekao jos pre par nedelja da ne vredi rizikovat, imaju interni market gde minere mozete prodati za 12h, ja sam ih sve prodao pre blizu 2 meseca i povukao sve BTC-e
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BFL nije bio scam?! MA daj...
 
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BFL nije bio scam?! MA daj...
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Generalno nije, niko meni ili tebi nije kriv sto smo narucili nesto sto postoji samo na papiru... inace ja sam sve pare dobio nazad i preko banke i BTC, nikakvih pitanja nije bilo...
To je druga stvar sto je menadzment iste najavljivao HW a kasnio ~6 meseci..... kad ga je USA sud preuzeo oni su i dalje svima vracali pare, ljudi su ipak imali soluciji da nebudu u totalnom minusu
Sad kad je sud preuzeo kopampaniju ZLOTVORI advokati ce sve pojesti, a ostatak ce pokupit oni veliki koji su i smislili da uniste BFL.... sitna raja ce ostati sa cistom NULOM
 
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Generalno nije, niko meni ili tebi nije kriv sto smo narucili nesto sto postoji samo na papiru... inace ja sam sve pare dobio nazad i preko banke i BTC, nikakvih pitanja nije bilo...
To je druga stvar sto je menadzment iste najavljivao HW a kasnio ~6 meseci..... kad ga je USA sud preuzeo oni su i dalje svima vracali pare, ljudi su ipak imali soluciji da nebudu u totalnom minusu
Sad kad je sud preuzeo kopampaniju ZLOTVORI advokati ce sve pojesti, a ostatak ce pokupit oni veliki koji su i smislili da uniste BFL.... sitna raja ce ostati sa cistom NULOM
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Ja sam im zahvalan. Vratili su mi BTC nakon 5 mjeseci, a zatim poslali i masinu..sa kojim sam napravio 1800$
 
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Bitfinex i inside trade...

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMark...finex_cso_phillip_g_potter_admits_to_trading/
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Iznenadjenje je samo to da je gospodin Phil G. Potter ovako NAIVNO priznao. Kakva je samo prednost pojedinca nad ostalim, kad imas, naizgled malu privilegiju, free fee, licno sam osetio na bitstampu. Mnogo je privilegovanih i to na svim berzama. Mnoge /mozda sve/ berze su i osnovane radi mogucnosti manipulacije. Mnogi nalozi sa velikim ciframa su bez pokrica. Zaprepastio sam se kada sam video da se moze ”pozajmiti” novac...pa koliko taj ”pozajmljivac” moze sam sebi ”pozajmiti” kada mu je to potrebno da ”pogura” cenu u jednom ili drugom pravcu.
Sta sve mogu ”privilegovani” sa fiktivnim ciframa, videli smo nekoliko puta do sad, a tek cemo videti kada uspeju da se sinhronizuju i orkestrirano nastupe na svim berzama.
 
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Iznenadjenje je samo to da je gospodin Phil G. Potter ovako NAIVNO priznao. Kakva je samo prednost pojedinca nad ostalim, kad imas, naizgled malu privilegiju, free fee, licno sam osetio na bitstampu. Mnogo je privilegovanih i to na svim berzama. Mnoge /mozda sve/ berze su i osnovane radi mogucnosti manipulacije. Mnogi nalozi sa velikim ciframa su bez pokrica. Zaprepastio sam se kada sam video da se moze ”pozajmiti” novac...pa koliko taj ”pozajmljivac” moze sam sebi ”pozajmiti” kada mu je to potrebno da ”pogura” cenu u jednom ili drugom pravcu.
Sta sve mogu ”privilegovani” sa fiktivnim ciframa, videli smo nekoliko puta do sad, a tek cemo videti kada uspeju da se sinhronizuju i orkestrirano nastupe na svim berzama.
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Reci brate da te svi razumeju, organizovana banda lopova. Pljackasi.
 
Tuzno je sto menjacnice dopustaju takve stvari... pa i ako i sami ucestvuju u takvim radnjama sto je ocekivano ali ne vidim sta dobro time donose ni sebi ni BTC-u...
 
Reci brate Thunder, ima li jos padova BTC na vidiku narednih 10-tak dana?
 
Šta znam, cenim da nema ispod 180 neko vreme, zato su maltretirali ovoliko kako bi nakupili za pump.
Konačno buying volume, breakout trougla. 225 za potvrdu trenda, target nekih 260. Videćemo još šta kažu Kinezi za koji sat.
 
Kinezi kazu da ce piti vodu sa Morave a berza da je BTC oko 225$ ;)
 
Mozemo, samo nisu rekli kada ;)
A i ne moramo. Nikada :d
 
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