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Demon's Souls

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Ovaj akcioni RPG (Jap stil akcionog RPGa, dakle Oblivion sa jos manje RPGa u sebi) je bio iznenadjenje u Japanu jer se rasprodao kao lud. Nedovoljno kopija je bilo nastancovano (oko 100000) a razlog ragrabljivanja raspolozivih kopija nije ni grafika (prosek, ili cak losija) niti zvuk (muzika je odlicna, KADA JE IMA) vec suludo dobar gameplay i fantasticno inovativan multiplayer. Necu dalje da duzim. Evo vam opis iz kojeg sam izvukao vecinu ovih podataka.

http://thenightlygamer.com/demonssoulsreview.html

i dva isecka iz njega. Jedan o multiplayer komponenti koja me je odusevila

Demon's Souls also features very involving online functionality. You are able to see the bloodstains of other players as well as the way they died if you touch that bloodstain. This can be extremely useful when navigating dangerous levels. If you are in your physical form, you can summon two other players to join your party if they are in soul form. You summon them touching their soul sign which they display if they want to join someone's game. People have claimed that there is 4 player co op but throughout the entire game, TNG has only been able to summon two people at a time. The forth person is probably the black phantom. A black phantom is just another player that breaks into your game with the intent of killing you and your party to steal your souls. This can be extremely fun because it's a quick way to gain a lot of souls but it's extremely irritating if you are defeated and have your hard earned souls taken from you.

i njihov opis u jednoj slici i recenici ;P

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Ovo bas bas dobro zvuci.
 
Stigla mi je pre par dana. Ahem, shit son, ovo je teze od diabla 2 na hell-u :p
Ono sto je zanimljivo je da ta tezina ipak ne frustrira nego tera na osvetu :) U ovoj igri je combat skill NAJBITNIJI, znaci, oprema 'djene-djene', ali srce/refleksi u junaka je ono glavno. PC konvertit (moi) kaze 10/10 za ovo japansko cudo o/\o

Evo jedan mali klipic jednog (od mnogobrojnih) boss fajtova http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnLLDEOEqZo&feature=PlayList&p=A34510718457B43C&index=19

P.S. Kupljeno na www.play-asia.com, ispade bruto oko $68 sa sve postarinom. Stiglo za 8 dana...u sanduce :smoke:
P.P.S. It's Demon's Souls damnit :p


Cheerio...
 
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Kako igras azijsku verziju, ima engleski titl?
 
Cini mi se da ima i engleske glasove.

Uostalom, izlazi sad i u SAD-u, Atlus je izdavac, pa ako neko bude zeleo da igar moze da naruci i tu verziju.
 
Planiram da je uzmem sa PlayAsia ... Pogledao sam nekoliko opisa , i svidja mi se :)

Samo svuda pisu da je pakleno teska , i da je bolje da imam jedno 200-300 kontrolera u rezervi :D

EDIT: sada sam procitao da samo azijska verzija ima 100% engleski (text/audio) dok japanska ima samo audio na engleskom.
 
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Sve PS3 igre su region free, a engleske glasove/titlove ima kineska verzija.
 
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Samo svuda pisu da je pakleno teska , i da je bolje da imam jedno 200-300 kontrolera u rezervi :D

Ja samo jos na prvom kontroleru :p Budi oprezan u pocetku, tada ces biti 'on the edge' :)

EDIT: sada sam procitao da samo azijska verzija ima 100% engleski (text/audio) dok japanska ima samo audio na engleskom.

Tacno tako. Konkretno ovu sam verziju uzeo sa playasia http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-demon's+souls-70-36pw.html
 
Gde ima ova igra da se kupi ?
 
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A cekam onda kraj 2009 da izadje u Evropi.

Na zalost, ne verujem da ce izaci kod nas u evropi :( Kupuj na play-asia sada ili na jesen kod amera...

Extra izgleda, dal je moguce da se i PS 3 konacno imati do jaja RPG !

Sta ti to znaci 'konacno imati'?!? Ima ga bre vec sada sa Demon's Souls. Jbte, zvucim ko da sam im promoter...:d


Ae, bre, dolazite...:p
 
Pa pomoglo bi kad bi ti napisao neki review i licne utiske :)
 
^tako je. Da ubijamo malo demone, smorilo je zivo meso u KZ 2. :D
 
Ova igra izgleda fenomenalno, znaci ima sve, pricu, tezinu, grafiku, zvuk, prave RPG elemente, brutalno je teska ako se ne pazi. Za mene je ovo must have cim se pojavi US verzija.
evo malo slicica
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Demon's Souls - hands-on
How online play turns an everyday RPG into summer camp
Words: Joe Newman, GamesRadar US

Developed exclusively for the PS3, Demon’s Souls may look like an everyday JRPG. It’s got all the trappings of the typical third-person, real-time fantasy romp with the swords, dragons, stat porn, and a brutal difficulty level framed with particularly pretty visuals. But as with most games published by Atlus, Demon’s Souls sports an interesting twist that promises to set it apart from the glut of run-of-the-mill RPGs.

Think of Demon’s Souls as a well-tread summer camp obstacle course: everyone is heading along the same linear path, encountering the same obstacles, helping (or hindering) their fellow campers as they soldier along. You’re going to be pretty miserable if you take on the hordes of enemies and super-powered bosses alone – bosses have huge health bars and tons of minions at their disposal, and we’ve been told that numerous one-hit-kill death traps can be found throughout the later levels. Trust us. You’ll need all the help you can get.

But help is on the way, since nearly everything in Demon’s Souls has been designed with the online community in mind. While navigating your game world, you’ll frequently catch glimpses of ghostly figures (“Souls”) running along similar paths to yours. These aren’t pre-rendered NPCs; rather, they’re other players going through their games in real-time. You can watch as they fight the same baddies you fight, and even get tips from them on what to avoid as you watch them fall prey to the game’s many deadly traps. Additionally, every player is encouraged to leave little notes for the community to read, such as “watch out for the dragon here” or “break this crate for a good item” and so on – the ground in each stage is littered with such notes. You can even rate other people’s messages and the message’s author will receive a small heath boost in his/her game as a reward, which is a neat little touch. During our time with the game, we came across a number of messages from other players simply stating “I’m low on health, please give me a good rating!” Ha, ha… no.
Everyone in Demon’s Souls is encouraged to play nice throughout the main quest: you can pull other players into your game by summoning their souls and work with them to take down the baddies as a team. As with messages, you rate your teammates at the end of a round – and you’ll be able to see a player’s reputation before bringing him/her into your game. It sounds like a nice system to help you avoid grouping with jerks. Having players of many different classes is a good strategy, as not every character will be skilled in areas such as long-range attacks or magic. It won’t make the game easy by any means, but working as a team will make otherwise infuriating bosses much more manageable.

But what good would summer camp be without some good old-fashioned bullying? We’ve neglected to talk about PvP fighting up until now because we’re not sure how it will make (or break) Demon’s Souls. If you die during a quest, you become a Soul Body, a ghostly version of yourself that still has the ability to progress through a level, albeit with much less health. After a few missions, however, you’ll get an item that allows you as a Soul Body to essentially break into other people’s games and attack other players. If as a Soul Body you successfully defeat another player in PvP combat, you get to return to your body with no loss in XP. But if you die as a Soul Body though, you lose all the XP you’ve amassed since the last checkpoint. Griefing other players sounds like a fiendishly fun feature; it’ll be nice to take out your anger on the next player that comes along after a frustrating death. Still, getting ganked by an overpowered bully at the wrong time might just ruin the experience.
Thankfully, there are safeguards on this Soul Body system to prevent these sorts of abuses. You’ll only be able to break into the games of players of a similar level, and mischievous Soul Bodies will face a significant handicap due to their smaller health bars. If we know our griefers, someone will find a way around these limitations, but all worries aside, we’re psyched about the system. Despite its challenging difficulty, we’re looking forward to Demon’s Souls. If nothing else, it’ll help us relive our summer camp days.

Jul 21, 2009
 
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Huh , bice i mage-eva i castera?
Pa ova igra zvuci sve zanimljivije sa svakim novim i detaljnijim review-om
 
Ma brate od 6 oktobra spremi mac ili koju vec klasu oces da igras i da trsimo ovo online. Ja cu da igram neku klasu koja ima mac, uzeo bi Barbariana, al ga sigurno nece biti.
I dalje ne verujem da ove igre nece biti za EU trziste, slepci.
 
Ma brate od 6 oktobra spremi mac ili koju vec klasu oces da igras i da trsimo ovo online. Ja cu da igram neku klasu koja ima mac, uzeo bi Barbariana, al ga sigurno nece biti.

Nije mi jasno sto cekas US verziju? Ja evo porucujem drugu kopiju sa play-asia, oteo mi mladji brat disk (kupio i on PS3), ceka me da igramo zajedno co-op :D
I pre nego sto pitas, igra je potpuno na engleskom (voice + text), NIKAKVIH dodatnih podesavanja nema. Radi kao i svako us/uk izdanje. Link za kupovinu: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-77-1-49-en-15-demon's+souls-70-36pw.html

Inace ima barbarian klasa. Golac bez armora sa 'ovecom batinom i round shieldom http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/mdonatelli/8.png.
Evo vam najpotpuniji sajt (wiki) za Demon's http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

Cheers...
 
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Cuo sam da treba da isprave neke dijaloge i slicne stvari da prilagode US trzistu, tako nesto, nisam siguran.
Necu sad da narucujem jer ovakva igra se igra polako i sa uzivanje. Taman na zimu.
NEgo ovaj Barbarian izgleda jadno. :(
Kakav je trip igrati online ? Jel ima tad vise monstera i slicnih stvari ? Da ne bude prelaka sa vise igraca.
Kakvi su bossovi ? :d
 
Psiho, citam da je igra jedna od najtezih u poslednjih 10-ak godina, tako da ce ti biti dovoljno izazovna valjda :) Inace na Gametrailersu je vec otvorena 10-a tema o igri, iz razloga sto se tema zakljucava automatski posle 50 strana :)
 
Cuo sam da treba da isprave neke dijaloge i slicne stvari da prilagode US trzistu, tako nesto, nisam siguran.
Ne vidim sta ce da menjaju u voiceoverima, posto su ovi snimani u londonskom studiju, verovatno ce da ubace hbeni yank akcenat, meni se ovaj hladni engleski bas svidza :)

Kakav je trip igrati online ? Jel ima tad vise monstera i slicnih stvari ? Da ne bude prelaka sa vise igraca.
Kakvi su bossovi ? :d
Igra ima do sada nevidjeni online mod, kada prodjes prvog boss-a (phalanx) onda dobijas dva kamena, jedan koristis da pozoves druge igrace da ti pomognu (do 2) i oni se onda spawn-uju u tvoj svet/igru kao plavi fantomi, a drugi kamen koristis kada ti hoces da uletis drugom igracu da bi ga roknuo, tada si njemu black fantom, tebe onda ne napadaju npc-ovi i mozes da mu se prisunjas :-devil-:
Black fantomi mogu da ti dodju samo ako si u body formi, odn. pravom telu. Kada si u soul formi onda si miran, a ionako ces 80% igre mozda i vise provesti tako. Inace moze se igrati i offline ako bas zelis....

Bossovi su fantasticno osmisljeni i jako teski kao i cela igra btw. Medjutim, svaki ima taktiku, i kada ga dobijes imas bas onu pozitivnu satisfakciju da si ga se skilom i mozgom resio. Igra ne vara sa npcovima sto je veliki plus. Bossovi su mnogo laksi kada ih prelazis sa drugim igracima, igra ne spawnuje dodatne npceve ako ti dodje pomoc, sve je isto kao i kad si single, ali feeling da sam roknes bossa je toliki da ja posle 5 predjenih boss-eva jos nisam osetio potrebu da nekog pozovem ;)

Ah da, igra NIJE JRPG, igra je punokrvni W(estern)RPG jedino sto ga je 'japanac' pravio (From Software).

Eto, nadam se da sam malo priblizio DS problematiku.
 
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Cekaj to onda nije co-op igranje kroz celu igru, kao npr DIablo 2 ? Samo kad pozoves pomoc ? Koliko onda on ostaje tu ? Koliko se igraca moze max naci sitovremeno u tvojoj igri ?
Bossove sam gledao na netu, znaci odusevio sam se koliki su bre, i sto je svaki totalno drugaciji.
Jel si platio carinu za igru ?
Ja bi uzeo Limited edition, al osinuce me za carniu mangupi.
 
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Cekaj to onda nije co-op igranje kroz celu igru, kao npr DIablo 2 ? Samo kad pozoves pomoc ? Koliko onda on ostaje tu ? Koliko se igraca moze max naci sitovremeno u tvojoj igri ?
Napisao sam vec da je coop ovde drugaciji. Mozes imati do dva pomocnika, znaci party od vas troje. Kada se skupite tu ste dok neko ne zagine, ili ako zagine host (koliko znam) onda se party raskida....proveri na onom wiki-ju.

Jel si platio carinu za igru ?
Ja bi uzeo Limited edition, al osinuce me za carniu mangupi.
Nisam platio carinu. Narucio sam je kao sto narucujem sa shopto ili sendit-a, stiglo je posle nedelju dana i sve je proslo uobicajeno, postar na vrata 'dobar dan - dobar dan - izvolte ga - fala vi' :D


Cheers...
 
Huh , bice i mage-eva i castera?

Da, ima i castera. Stavise, najbolje klasa za pocetnika je Royal posto u startu ima i ofanzivnu magiju soul arrow, i prsten koji regenerise manu ;) To ti dobro dodje u pocetku jer nemoras da se priblizavas protivnicima a prilicno je jaka (ubija obicne protivnike iz 1-2 castovanja + brzo castuje)

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Inace imas 10 klasa + musko/zensko za svaku. Ono sto je dobro je sto sa kojom god klasom da krenes mozes da je budzis sa atributima da postane prakticno neka druga klasa, jedino je neka oprema samo muska ili zenska, sve ostalo mozes da equipujes od drugih klasa. Recimo ljudi krenu sa knightom (skirmish borac, jak armor itd.) i onda ga zbudze da ima ofanzivne (magic) i defanzivne magije (miracles), i tako u stvari bude magician ,) Evo na ovom linku imas sve o klasama detaljnije.


Cheers...
 
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Psiho, citam da je igra jedna od najtezih u poslednjih 10-ak godina, tako da ce ti biti dovoljno izazovna valjda :)
Blaga je rec da je teska, srecom ne i frustrirajuca :)
Recimo moj prvi lik (Royal) je lvl 85 i dan danas mogu da zaginem na 1-1 (pocetna mapa) ako se previse opustim :S:

Evo vam dva youtube od lika koji je DS presao uzduz i popreko:

1. Maiden Astraea / Garl Vinland Boss Fight - cak mi je i zao ove demonice
2. Old King Allant / False King Boss Fight - do ovoga bossa jos nisam dosao, ali vec mi nije dobro kad pomislim sta me ceka, srecom ima nacina da se sredi bez bliskog kontakta :D
 
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