audiofreak procitaj prvu recenicu iz posta pre mog.Stator kaze da im je intel dao testove a iz anandtech-a napominju da je to jedini test koji im intel nije dao!!Quote:
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F.E.A.R. gets its own page for a couple of reasons:
1) It's the only gaming benchmark that we're using that doesn't use an Intel provided demo. This is the same demo we use in our tests.
I?!? Jel mozda ima losije rezultate nego ostali, ne razumem?
stavrik je napisao(la):audiofreak procitaj prvu recenicu iz posta pre mog.Stator kaze da im je intel dao testove a iz anandtech-a napominju da je to jedini test koji im intel nije dao!!
Sta se toliko uzbudjujes samo lagano i opusteno. :wave:
Audiofreak je napisao(la):Znaci da bi CSI mogao biti predstavljen na sledecem IDF-u. Ako je to tacno onda bi prvi procesori i chipseti koji koriste CSI mogli da se pojave vec u Q1 2007.
Pa grafika je bila 2x 1900 u Crossfire, ne vidim zasto ne bi bilo brze. Pa valjda te graficke mogu da poteraju F.E.A.R. na MAX? Zar nije ranije bilo price da 2x 7800GTX u SLI tesko moze da nahrani i najjaci AMD DC i da je u stvari CPU limitirajuci faktor?
.....the DFI bios version “D49C-32” they are running is from 10/11/05. There has been 1 major revision with major fixes that include:
Set Cool 'n' Quiet Default to Disabled
- With Cool & Quiet enabled, AMD processors will throttle in order to save power and bring their thermal load down. This means the processor could be running as low as 800MHz in certain programs – no matter what the program is. In theory Cool & Quiet is supposed to throttle up to maximum in games but this is not always the case. No enthusiast PC goes out with Cool & Quiet enabled unless it’s a fanless machine or media center.
Add Support for AMD Athlon 64 FX60 CPU
- According to DFI the FX-60 will not operate correctly without this bios update. Without official support for the FX-60 CPU I’m not sure what we’re comparing against here.
Fix Memory Timings 2-1-1-1-1 and 4-1-1 Mode Wrong & Fix Read Preamble Table Error.
- Memory latency can make a massive difference in performance. If the latency was not running at the correct latency we can see a pretty big difference in all kinds of performance. Anandtech stated “The AMD system used 1GB of DDR400 running at 2-2-2/1T timings…” Apparently this isn’t the case, but they would not be able to tell without having the platform in house.
Fix Fill 3114 SVID&SSID under Cross fire mode.
- More apparent performance issues under Crossfire mode.
Next, when you take a future Intel chipset and compare it to a chipset that no enthusiast supports (RD480) with an outdated bios it’s like taking a Ferrari and putting it on Bias-Ply tires. It’s just not a good way to show off a “new” technology.
Had Intel taken an RD580 (Crossfire Xpress 3200) and coupled with the AMD Athlon FX-60 processor they almost certainly would have seen some better numbers just based on the bios issues alone. The ATi Xpress 3200 would have improved the overclocking and decoding performance as well. You don’t need a time machine to jump over to the nearest Newegg and buy the latest parts. It’s almost like Intel took their time machine 6 months ahead while throwing AMD into a time warp set a few months back in time.
So now a few numbers caught my attention based on another email I received last night.
If we go and check out the numbers on Anandtech we’ll see the Unreal Tournament 2004 benchmark showing 160fps on the unknown AMD X2 processor while the Intel Conroe at 2.66GHz came in significantly higher at 191fps.
starac je napisao(la):Lično sam poredio Athlon t-bred 2700+(2167mhz),KT600 i A64 3000+(2600mhz),NF4 sa istom graf.6800 u FEAR-u.Razlike uopće nema!
starac je napisao(la):...CPU za današnje grafičke jeste ograničavajući faktor,ali ne u slučaju FEAR-a.
ivanbo2003 je napisao(la):Procitah na jednom stranom forumu jednu intrigantnu misao:gasenje CF na amd konfi(kroz drajver) "donosi" gubitak od otprilike 20-40% sto je savrseno U SKLADU sa rezultatima NON-CPU bound testova(tj. gpu bound-cim je CF iskljucen).
ivanbo2003 je napisao(la):Ah da,na amd masini moze svasta da se "napravi":single channel mem . konfiguracije(1GB kao 2x512 u DC konfig?,ili 1x1GB u SC?),biosa(starog 3 meseca),chipseta(koji je mogao biti i najnoviji RD580).
ivanbo2003 je napisao(la):Mali quote sa ananda kaze :"...the ATI graphics driver was modified to recognize the Conroe CPU but that driver was loaded on both AMD and Intel systems".Hehe modifikovali su ga malko.Pitam se sta su sve modifikovali
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Fix Fill 3114 SVID&SSID
Add Support for AMD Athlon 64 FX60 CPU
stormwatch153 je napisao(la):Ceo test je nevidjena laz od strane Intela, posto je monopol i djubrasko ponasanje propao ajmo da izbacujemo pricice o tome sta ce biti kada patka bude vozila bicikl, na pocetku testa pise da se koristi FX60 procesor a u grafikonima pise Conroe Vs Amd X2, i ajde mi recite koja je to ploca i koja revizija biosa koja FX prijavljuje kao Unknown processor? I jos jedna cudna stvar, pa gde je tu Far Cry test koji tera CPU do maximuma?
Da rezimiram, intel je napravio crap od procesora koji i sa novom tehnologijom radi istom brzinom ili sporije od sada vec prastare AMD tehnologije, lepo su sprckali nesto da AMD ne postize prave rezultate ili sto je sasvim normalno za Intel marketing fair-play strategiju jednostavno zamenili Conroe ili FX rezultate. Sve u svemu drago mi je sto im gori pod nogama jer do sada nisam imao prilike da vidim Intela kako grcevito izbacuje testove Intel vs AMD.
illidan je napisao(la):hahahaha, pa pogledaj malo yonah procesor on je available, i uporedi ga sa amd-om i ako hoces na istom taktu... a far cry.... to bese ona stara igrica iz 2004 godine?
sacekaj decembar pa da vidimo Crysis na delu sa intelom i amd-om![]()
illidan je napisao(la):kazem pogledaj testove yonaha....
pa onda pricaj.
a ti lepo kupi AM2 i vozi...
While our intention was to test both the AMD and Intel systems at the “Maximum” Computer settings and “High” Graphics settings, only the Conroe system was configured as such. We inadvertently left the AMD system at a higher resolution (1280 x 960) instead of the default resolution (1024 x 768) when you select the “High” Graphics defaults. The oversight was entirely our own doing as Intel was not running the benchmarks or configuring them, it simply happened while we were setting up both systems at the same time. We played with different resolution settings and while deciding that we would go with one, managed to configure the two boxes differently.
vezmar je napisao(la):....................mislim,ako je ovo marketinski potez od strane intela i da su rezultati lazni,desice se odredjen komplikacije koje ce da skode nikom drugom nego samom intelu,a evo i zasto:
1.Dok doticni procesor krene u prodaju proci ce dosta vremena i u sustini do tad ce mnoge zemlje imati conroe na testu i rezultati ce svima biti dostupni.
2.Ako su rezultai naduvani,sto je sigurno slucaj,onda oni ne prelaze odstupanje od nekih 2-5% zbog tacke 1.
Jednostavno sacekajte jos neko vreme da prodje,a ne da se prepirete dok ne dodju finalni rezultati,na kraju krajeva intel je shvatijo da su danas igrice one koje prodaju najskuplji hardver i da se sve vrti oko istih,da rezimiram,intel je u skripcu vec nekih malo vise od godinu dana,i sigurno da su morali da se vade iz g...ana.
Mislim da su rezultai ok i da ce da pojedeu AMD novu platformu,ali ponavljam "treba sacekati pa videti" :bottle:
ivanbo2003 je napisao(la):Anand objavio ispravku/dopunu testa:
audiofreak je napisao(la):Pojasni sta si poredio, SLI na KT600?!? Kako to moze? Ja sam rekao da je za 2x 7800GTX512 AMD dual-core bio usko grlo, bio je neki test pa potrazite, ne secam se gde sada.
Kako onda objasnjavas da ja sa 7800GT sada sa Dual-Core procesorom imam veci FPS u F.E.A.R.-u nego sa Single-Core with HTT i to sa iskljucenim optimizacijama u nVidia drajveru?
We were limited to 1280 x 1024 because of the LCDs we were testing on
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