Šta je novo?

BTC-E kriza 25.7.2017.

Jel neko u toku? Koliko sam razumeo, sad optuzuju da je sav kripto sa BTCe u rukama tog Baltazara (koji inace negira naravno)?
Kao i nekog Sergeya Mayzusa, cija firma drzi sav fiat koji je bio na BTCe?

Ovo neko nas?
https://twitter.com/CryptoAnarchizm
 
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Vidim ja utihnule optužbe. Ameri ovo, ameri ono, pljackaši i slično.

Kao i uvek, lopurde najobičnije skrivene iza patriJotskih priča malogradjana.
 
Update4!

Current information:

1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.

2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.


Best regards support btc-e

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063529.0
 
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To smo znali od dana 0, nista novo nisu rekli. Ukruglo pa na cose.
 
Google transl. od upucenih:

I will not repeat the sad (at the moment) history that occurred with the largest crypto-exchange of the Runet BTC-E: everyone knows who left their Bitcoins and Ethers there. I want to talk about Sergei Mayzus and his role in this story, as well as some famous and not known characters.
Only facts.
All Fiat BTC-E - from Mayzus Financial Services Ltd This is confirmed by the administration of the exchange, and by Maysus himself. At the same time, Sergey, being the owner of the company, says that he has no relation to blocking, since in this company he is not the head. Just the owner. Well, it's like if the owner of the bank is blocked his "Infiniti" card, opened in the same bank
Transfers to MoneyPolo were accepted until the close of the exchange and another three days after. The funds were "credited" to affiliated accounts on the exchange and Bitcoin was bought for them and especially much Ether. It seems that the last week of work already knew that those who sell the crypt to these affiliated accounts, withdraw money will no longer be necessary.
Crypta - let's just say, she is under the control of Alexey (I will not yet name the surname), but there is no single solution what to do with it yet. Alexei is a supporter of paying in proportion to all and closing the topic. The rest of the people who influence the process want to resume work. Sergei, in his usual manner, proposes to roll everything down to the FBI, to close the BTC-E theme, to launch a new exchange. Money is given only to those who can not not be given away, but there are many such.
The only supporter of the topic "go to the Twilight" -Dima. But he decides little, in fact, a drop, but for some reason he is very close to Mayzus. I do not know exactly what caused this disposition, but the answer lies in their common interest in a certain quarter of Malbel in a small Azerbaijani village. Until we do this, not to be distracted from the main thing.
The more the person involved is exposed, the more favorable his plans for the clients of the exchange. Such is the binomial of Newton.
Because the desire to go into the twilight was not in Dima, he also must appear to the public: https: //vk.com/id24627471
And remember this company, it was used by Sergei, again with Dima, http://www.rusprofile.ru/id/9257254 for a number of topics that can be obtained in the Czech Republic.
Buyanov drop, not in the subject, does not know anything, no one is interesting. But Dima's friend Andrey Shvets (until 2013 they lived in Donetsk near the club "Liverpool") - weight has and roads to the organizers. Because of it so quickly and brought out by the documents, when the smell of fried.
Dima and Andrey just and were engaged in the strengthened purchase of a crypt for the fictitious fiat. And the real Fiat did not leave the accounts of Maisus. And there it will remain, since if no state (regulatory, law enforcement) agency has instructed these accounts to block, it is clear that no authority can give a command and unblock it. For understanding - accounts with fiat are open to companies and individuals who have no relation to the stock exchange for documents and activities. Among the physicists on whom the accounts are open, Dima and Andrey. And why then I think that Dima's account is not blocked.
Where does the droish (information) come from?
Information - from the inside (a man working for Alexei).
The goal is to save those who decide the issue, from the temptation to go to dusk.
Personal Interest - 5K account in MT BTC-E
, With 4 poses in the buy-in on the cue ball from 1956, 2120, 2406 and 2712.
As soon as interesting information arrives, I will post it here.
My prognosis is rather favorable, since the crypts of the holder are correct. But the technical part is in many respects for Dima and Andrey, but processing at Majzus. And both of these characters are interested in the exchange being torn by the FBI, because then no one will understand how much money should be, where the hole in the balance came from, and customers will automatically become partners in black schemes and nobody will protect their interests.

As far as I'm able and able, I'll be covering everything I've learned in this topic. My opinion, it will not hurt to restore the exchange, because it is not possible to secretly restore the exchange. Secretly you can only take the crypt (the phiath is already actually taken away). And I am against such an outcome.
 
Ako si pročitao, nije tako..

Inače to se pojavilo na nekom ruskom forumu, napisao neko ko se taj dan registrovao, relevantnost = 0
 
Naravno da sam procitao i ovo je cisto mazanje ociju, coini su odneti, pare samo oni znaju gde su, sanse da se vrate posle svega su 0,001%
 
Na zalost bice da je tako, ovo je isto kao sa MTGoxom, ne znam samo koji je red velicine, ali to je to, dobro je sto ovo nije imalo vece posledice na ceo sistem, izgleda da je sistem postao rezistentan na ovakve kradje. Vrv ce se ti coini i novac vratiti u pricu preko neke nove menjacnice , jer ljudska pohlepa nema granica, ali to je to dok nekome ne smrkne drugom ne svane.
 
U principu kao sto sam rekao od pocetka, kupuju vreme. To sta imaju, a sta ne, to su znali prvi dan. Mislim da im je suvise komplikovano da pocnu da rade pod bilo kojim imenom, jer ce ovi iz fbi pratiti svugde s obzirom da su namerili da kontrolisu sve berze. I koja ne zeli da saradjuje, to je to. Razlog pod kojim su im oteli server moze da se primeni na bilo koju menjacnicu - to mu dodje kao one univerzalne optuzbe tipa terorizam i slicno. To je jednostavno dzoker koji ti daje pravo da radis sta hoces. Nemojte gajiti nade bezveze, ovo nije hakovano, nije slican slucaj ni goxu ni bitfinexu, nego je 1/1 kao liberty reserve.
 
Potpuno se slazem sa tobo Zmaje, ono sto me plasi sto ovo mogu da primene na bilo koju menjacnicu koja im sa kao "ne svidja", kad sam ovo upredio sa goxom mislio sam na red velicine para tj coina.
 
Verovatno će uskoro krenuti da pune neki od koina. Ne bi me iznenadilo da to bude baš sibcoin.
 
U principu kao sto sam rekao od pocetka, kupuju vreme. To sta imaju, a sta ne, to su znali prvi dan. Mislim da im je suvise komplikovano da pocnu da rade pod bilo kojim imenom, jer ce ovi iz fbi pratiti svugde s obzirom da su namerili da kontrolisu sve berze. I koja ne zeli da saradjuje, to je to. Razlog pod kojim su im oteli server moze da se primeni na bilo koju menjacnicu - to mu dodje kao one univerzalne optuzbe tipa terorizam i slicno. To je jednostavno dzoker koji ti daje pravo da radis sta hoces. Nemojte gajiti nade bezveze, ovo nije hakovano, nije slican slucaj ni goxu ni bitfinexu, nego je 1/1 kao liberty reserve.
Mene samo zanima odakle si znao jos maja meseca? Kolko se secam tipovao si na btc-e ili bitstamp.
 
Mene samo zanima odakle si znao jos maja meseca? Kolko se secam tipovao si na btc-e ili bitstamp.

Tipovao sam da ce neka berza da pukne, doduse nisam mislio na ovaj nacin. Bez obzira na sve i ja sam ostao sa novcima na njoj, rizik dnevnog prometa ... Primio coine i berza je nestala. Baksuz, ali to je rizik posla. I dalje cekam poloniex i bitrex da odu pod led.
 
Tipovao sam da ce neka berza da pukne, doduse nisam mislio na ovaj nacin. Bez obzira na sve i ja sam ostao sa novcima na njoj, rizik dnevnog prometa ... Primio coine i berza je nestala. Baksuz, ali to je rizik posla. I dalje cekam poloniex i bitrex da odu pod led.

Milis da ce ista sudbina da bude i sa njima?
 
A postoji li neki poseban razlog za to? Zasto ne otvoris wallet?

Cimanje mi je posle opet slanje na berzu zbog prodaje,pa ako se zagube negde dok reaguje suport prodje voz. Moracu sutra da skinem wallet-e pa da prebacim. Mislio sam da je sigurnija berza ,ali koliko vidim sigurno je da nista nije sigurno.
 
Tipovao sam da ce neka berza da pukne, doduse nisam mislio na ovaj nacin. Bez obzira na sve i ja sam ostao sa novcima na njoj, rizik dnevnog prometa ... Primio coine i berza je nestala. Baksuz, ali to je rizik posla. I dalje cekam poloniex i bitrex da odu pod led.

Znaci da je Bitstamp najsafe zona sad?
 
Ništa nije sejf, ako ne problemi sa zakonom, ima drugih mogućnosti 🙂

Oko btc-e, mislim da je i dalje sve moguće. Nema tu sada upravni odbor pa će nešto da odluče, sve zavisi od nekoliko njih, ili jednog, niko nema pojma. Zavisi kakvi su. Eto ja na primer ne bih mogao da spavam kada ne bih bar pokušao da vratim ljudima uloge, neko bi se verovatno samo nasmejao i nastavio da bira jahtu..

Za razliku od LR, ovi imaju mogućnost da koine vrate, mogu i bez dizanja online, mogu da svakome pošalju mailom ili šta već.

U slučaju da samo vrate novčiće, da li mogu na neki način biti obleleženi kao prljavi pa da ništa sa tim ne možemo? Osim neki mikser ili kako to već ide, dok još postoje takvi servisi..

+ ne shvatam od koga ima da kupuju vreme, svakako ne znamo ko su, povodom onog oglašavanja na forumu..

procenio bih šanse 40% da nešto bude od svega 🙂
 
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Meni samo jedna stvar nije logicna oko cele ove price, ukoliko je u pitanju slucaj da je neko "zapalio sa novcicima i keshom". Zasto bi neko unistavao tako dobar biznis, kao sto je posrednik u trgovini novcicima? To je nesto sto neminovno dolazi, suludo je obarati berzu i bezati sa novcicima i novcem, kada dugorocno to moze da donese mnogo stabilnog novca. Ovo "pije vodu" samo ukoliko je u pitanju cista ljudska glupost, odnosno pohlepa i nemanje sposobnosti da se dugorocnije gleda na investiciju i biznis, u ovom slucaju vlasnistvo nad berzom.
 
Meni samo jedna stvar nije logicna oko cele ove price, ukoliko je u pitanju slucaj da je neko "zapalio sa novcicima i keshom". Zasto bi neko unistavao tako dobar biznis, kao sto je posrednik u trgovini novcicima? To je nesto sto neminovno dolazi, suludo je obarati berzu i bezati sa novcicima i novcem, kada dugorocno to moze da donese mnogo stabilnog novca. Ovo "pije vodu" samo ukoliko je u pitanju cista ljudska glupost, odnosno pohlepa i nemanje sposobnosti da se dugorocnije gleda na investiciju i biznis, u ovom slucaju vlasnistvo nad berzom.

Pa jel ti pratis sta se desilo? Zatvorio ih je FBI, oduzeo domen, zamrzao im pare u bankama i pokupio nesto servera sa nesto podataka i mozda i nesto kljuceva ako su ih tamo drzali na nekom kompu ili u arhivi. Dakle niko nije "zapalio sa kesom", nego je FBI pokupio sta je uspeo da pokupi. Ako je istina da nisu pokupili sve, odnosno da su baza korisnika i kljucevi walleta kod vlasnika btc-e, i ako su ti vlasnici voljni da vrate, vratice onoliko koliko je u njihovim rukama. Vrlo jednostavno.
 
@Student
Pratim celu pricu, znam sta se desilo. Nego kazem za slucaj da je u pitanju ta teorija, a razvijaju se mnoge, od toga da su zapalili do toga da ih je oteo UFO.

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Imho, BTC-e je ćao zdravo, oteo ih NLO ili ne.

Ali da kažemo da neka mala nada još uvek postoji. Otprilike kada im budemo održali 40 dana, mislim da možemo tada i da se pomirimo sa tim dogadjajem.

U skladu sa našom tradicijom i verom...[emoji16]

Da su uopšte planirali da se vrate, održavali bi pristojnu komunikaciju sa članstvom.

Vreme su kupovali samo da namire ajkule koje bi im svakako došle glave, iz džepa boranije naravno, pa idu u zasluženu penziju sa ostatkom naših para.
 
Update5! Important! 08/09/2017

Exit from the current situation with the arrested Fiat:

1. Over the past 14 days, we have been struggling for your funds, managed to gain control of 55% of the funds (depends on the course), the remaining 45% are arrested funds, most in fiat. As the arrest is withdrawn from the accounts, the amount will decrease.

2. What version of the way out of the current situation we see:
2.1. Work under the current BTC-e brand is not possible due to unresolved issues from the Office of Financial Crimes of the US Treasury.
2.2. At the moment, we are negotiating with a group of investors (an investment company), about buying and prompt launch of the service and repaying debts to customers. Further, the process of repayment of debt obligations will be described in more detail.
2.3. After, As we transfer all the balance sheets of the investment company, the balances will be recalculated.
2.4. The recounting procedure, taking into account the available 55% of funds:
2.4.1. All liabilities for fiat (USD, EUR, RUR) will be transferred to BTE tokens (1 BTE is 1 USD) at the exchange rate on the date of conversion. Probably, for more operative closing of promissory notes, ICO will be held on BTE tokens.
2.4.2. If you have on the balance the amount in koin, then you will be written off 45% of the balance of coins and credited with 45% of BTE (1 BTE is 1 USD). At the exchange rate on the day of conversion.
2.4.3. If you have a balance in BTE, then you will be credited with 45% in koin (the amount will be divided into 7 different coins equally BTC, LTC, NMC, NVC, PPC, ETH, DSH) and write off the amount of 45% in BTE.
2.4.4. Upon all recalculations, all users will have the opportunity to withdraw 55% of their funds from the system.
2.5. The investment company works in compliance with KYC, AML and the licenses required for this activity, so all users will need to undergo verification.
2.6. Tentative start dates end of August.

3. All debt obligations will be closed primarily from operating income from the investment company's commission, as well as from the funds we plan to sue from those who illegally arrested them.

The closing of the debt will be based on the principle of buying BTE tokens from the market.

The next update will provide more details on the procedure for accessing information on your balance sheet and when these funds can be withdrawn.

From the BTC-e team we officially inform that all the funds that were in the reserve fund (including all our income) were transferred to pay off the debts.

PS Warning! The cases of posting fake links on allegedly our new domain have become more frequent. All official information about our service is placed only in our twitter and from our official account on the forum.

Sincerely, BTC-e team
 
bice verifikacija kao na stampu, odakle vam novcici, ali eto, drago nam je sto ce do polovine septembra da trguju sa tudjim novcicima 🙂
 
I obecanje je bolje nego nista :S:

Ma verifikacija je nuzno zlo a nama realno koji nemamo sta da krijemo to i ne smeta. Da smo svi bili verifikovani nikada ne bi ni doslo do ovoga.
 
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