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Samsung LE 32B551 i SAMSUNG LE32A656, Iskljucivo za ps3 i xbox

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Ljudi... Koji mi bi predlozili lcd tv?? Iskljucivo za ps3 i xbox.. Razmisljam se izmedju ova dva modela..
Samsung LE 32B551 i SAMSUNG LE32A656.. Mozda mi bi bolje dosao ovaj drugi zbog pc podrske.. Sta mislite?
 
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Karakteristike za SAMSUNG LE32B551:
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* Format : 16:9
* Screen size : 32 inches (82 cm)
* Brightness (in cd/m²) :
* Contrast :
* Response time (in ms) :
* Resolution (horizontal x vertical - in pixels) : 1920 x 1080
* Viewing angle (horizontal/vertical - in°) :
* Audio Power :
* Noise reduction :
* Mono/Stereo Sound : SRS TruSurround HD
* Speakers : Yes
* Connectivity : 4 x HDMI1 scart socket1 x component video USB port
* SCART connectors : 1
* DVI Input : No
* HDMI Input : 4
* PC Input : No
* Audio output : No
* Standard : Pal I
* Double Tuner : Digital tuner
* TV text :
* Other functions : Sleep timer
* Remote control : Yes
* Accessories supplied : Remote control, power supply
* Internal menu languages : French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch
* User guide : English
* Dimensions (mm) : 793.9 x 240 x 569.7 (with stand)793.9 x 77.1 x 524.1 (without stand)
* Weight (kg) : 10.2 (without stand)

Karakteristike za Samsung LE32A656:
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VIDEO
• Screen Size 32"
• Resolution 1 920 x 1 080
• Dynamic Contrast Ratio 15,000:1
• HD Ready Yes
• Backlight C C F L
• IDTV Yes
• Movie Plus Yes
• DNIe + No
• DNIe Pro Yes

AUDIO
• Sound Output(RMS) 10W x 2
• Speaker A2 / NiCAM
• Sound Effect System SRS Trusurround

Input & Output(Side)
• HDMI 1
• composite (AV) 1
• S-Video 1
• Headphone 1

Input & Output(Back)
• HDMI 3
• composite (AV) No
• S-Video No
• PC input (D-sub) 1
• Component(Y/Pb/Pr) 1
• RF Input 1
• Headphone No
• Video Monitor out, L/R No (Audio only)
• Optical sound out 1
• RS232C (for Service only) 1
• Scart 2

Cabinet Color
• Crystal design (Rose black)
• Swivel (left/right) Yes

Feature
• Picture-in-Picture 1 Tuner
• Sleep Timer Yes
• Clock & On/Off timer Yes
• Still Picture No
• Auto Channel Search Yes
• Auto Power Off Yes
• OSD language EU 22EA
• Auto Volume Leveller Yes
• Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) Yes
• Teletext(TTXT) TTX Level 2.5

System
• Color system EU Multi
• Power 220V

Dimension
• Set size(WXHXD) with stand 806 x 585 x 252mm
• Set size(WXHXD) without stand 806 x 528 x 81mm
• Package size(WXHXD) 912 x 746 x 188mm

Weight
• Set weight with stand 13.8kg
• Set weight without stand 11.6kg
• Package weight 18.4kg

Accessory
• Wall Mount Auto compatible
• Remote Control TM98A
• Batteries, AAA type Yes
• ANT- Cable No

Power
• Cable Yes
• Power Operation Power Consumption 200W
• Stand-By Power Consumption < 1W
 
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"loši" su i jedan i drugi za PS3 i Xbox360 jer u game modu imaju jako spor odziv, tako sam pročitao na mnogo foruma, BUG časopisu, PC Chip-u takođe. uglavnom se svi žale na samsung što se toga tiče, blu-ray i HDTV su OK. najbolji tv za PS3 i Xbox360 je LG5000 ili sad LH3000/5000, slika na njima je savršena i bez ikakih zamerki.
 
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scheilinkin je napisao(la):
"loši" su i jedan i drugi za PS3 i Xbox360 jer u game modu imaju jako spor odziv, tako sam pročitao na mnogo foruma, BUG časopisu, PC Chip-u takođe. uglavnom se svi žale na samsung što se toga tiče, blu-ray i HDTV su OK. najbolji tv za PS3 i Xbox360 je LG5000 ili sad LH3000/5000, slika na njima je savršena i bez ikakih zamerki.
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Hvala puno:smoke: Nego, gde bih mogao da nabavim ovaj LH5000??? I kolika je cena od prilike? Ima li to kod nas uopste?:wave:
 
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scheilinkin je napisao(la):
"loši" su i jedan i drugi za PS3 i Xbox360 jer u game modu imaju jako spor odziv, tako sam pročitao na mnogo foruma, BUG časopisu, PC Chip-u takođe. uglavnom se svi žale na samsung što se toga tiče, blu-ray i HDTV su OK. najbolji tv za PS3 i Xbox360 je LG5000 ili sad LH3000/5000, slika na njima je savršena i bez ikakih zamerki.
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Nije tacno da samsung ima "jako spor" odziv, nego isti kao i vecina televizora. Sto se tice 32 lg5000 treba napomenuti da on nije full hd ako nesto znaci a i ne znam gde si procitao da ima manji input lag. Input lag u game modu neces ni primetiti osim ako nisi jako jako osetljiv gamer i da 90% vremena igras pucacine.

Ako vec nemas jos jedan tv plasmu ili lcd, ja bi ti preporucio samsung jer ako malo provrtite po internetu shvaticete da LG nema sta da trazi u poredjenju sa njim (pogotovo za a656).

Evo random post sa avforum-a u vezi a656

A little update on the lag issue.

I downloaded the demo of Guitar Hero 3 from Xbox Live last night, and I was pleasantly surprised to find it had the lag calibration application in it. After about 45 mins of testing, I've come to the following conclusions:

Using Game mode gave on average between 0 and 8ms of lag. Not using Game mode gave between 15 and 25ms of lag. So there's a definate advantage for using Game mode. Draw your own conclusions on whether you believe it to be worth while, but I would say the results a fairly conclusive.

When playing COD4 and switching between Game mode on and off, the main difference I noticed was the way on which your character / crosshair moved. Without the use of Game mode, the movement was slightly floaty, thus when you turn around, it almost feels like there's some acceleration being applied to the controls. When you would stop turning with the control pad, there was a feeling of the movement still continuing for a split second. Using Game mode, the controls were much sharper. There was no feeling of floating, and everything felt more direct.

I tested the other Entertainment modes with the lag calibration, and unfortunately they didn't reduce the lag like Game mode. On a brighter note, I've come up with a setting for Game mode which, IMO, hugely increases the picture quality. Now, if you're using and HDMI connection, you will have the option on the TV to set the HDMI Black Level to either Normal or Low. My TV is calibrated to use this setting on Low, so you will need to follow suit if you haven't already done so. Now, when you turn on Game mode, the blacks are seriously crushed, as it appears to make use of the nasty Dynamic Contrast and Black Adjust features. So I find the picture using Game mode too dark, yet at the same time, it turns the Backlight up to 7! So you get crushed blacks but with a screen which is way too bright, and let's not talk about the horrid Sharpness level. Fear not however, as I think I've come up with a good setting. Now going back to the HDMI Black Level option, this will only work if you have this calibrated to normally use the Low setting. Right, once in Game mode, turn HDMI Black Level to Normal, now turn Energy Saving onto Medium. That's it! LOL. But try it, as to my eyes, it's made a HUGE difference in the picture quality. Let me know chaps...

Da dodam da imas i 32 LG6000 u tehnomarketu za 56.5k ako ti nesto znaci.
 
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ja lično mislim da je na tv-u bolje da je odziv malo veći (8ms), čisto zbog nekog look-a.
koji god da uzmeš nećeš ništa ni primetiti enivej, ljudsko oko ne primećuje ništa ispod 12ms a jedini tv-ovi na tržištu koji imaju 16ms pa čak i 25ms su neki BEKO škartovi u ELTIMU.
 
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Gizmor je napisao(la):
Nije tacno da samsung ima "jako spor" odziv, nego isti kao i vecina televizora. Sto se tice 32 lg5000 treba napomenuti da on nije full hd ako nesto znaci a i ne znam gde si procitao da ima manji input lag. Input lag u game modu neces ni primetiti osim ako nisi jako jako osetljiv gamer i da 90% vremena igras pucacine.

Ako vec nemas jos jedan tv plasmu ili lcd, ja bi ti preporucio samsung jer ako malo provrtite po internetu shvaticete da LG nema sta da trazi u poredjenju sa njim (pogotovo za a656).

Evo random post sa avforum-a u vezi a656

A little update on the lag issue.

I downloaded the demo of Guitar Hero 3 from Xbox Live last night, and I was pleasantly surprised to find it had the lag calibration application in it. After about 45 mins of testing, I've come to the following conclusions:

Using Game mode gave on average between 0 and 8ms of lag. Not using Game mode gave between 15 and 25ms of lag. So there's a definate advantage for using Game mode. Draw your own conclusions on whether you believe it to be worth while, but I would say the results a fairly conclusive.

When playing COD4 and switching between Game mode on and off, the main difference I noticed was the way on which your character / crosshair moved. Without the use of Game mode, the movement was slightly floaty, thus when you turn around, it almost feels like there's some acceleration being applied to the controls. When you would stop turning with the control pad, there was a feeling of the movement still continuing for a split second. Using Game mode, the controls were much sharper. There was no feeling of floating, and everything felt more direct.

I tested the other Entertainment modes with the lag calibration, and unfortunately they didn't reduce the lag like Game mode. On a brighter note, I've come up with a setting for Game mode which, IMO, hugely increases the picture quality. Now, if you're using and HDMI connection, you will have the option on the TV to set the HDMI Black Level to either Normal or Low. My TV is calibrated to use this setting on Low, so you will need to follow suit if you haven't already done so. Now, when you turn on Game mode, the blacks are seriously crushed, as it appears to make use of the nasty Dynamic Contrast and Black Adjust features. So I find the picture using Game mode too dark, yet at the same time, it turns the Backlight up to 7! So you get crushed blacks but with a screen which is way too bright, and let's not talk about the horrid Sharpness level. Fear not however, as I think I've come up with a good setting. Now going back to the HDMI Black Level option, this will only work if you have this calibrated to normally use the Low setting. Right, once in Game mode, turn HDMI Black Level to Normal, now turn Energy Saving onto Medium. That's it! LOL. But try it, as to my eyes, it's made a HUGE difference in the picture quality. Let me know chaps...

Da dodam da imas i 32 LG6000 u tehnomarketu za 56.5k ako ti nesto znaci.
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Pricao sam s jednim likom za Samsung LE40A656.. Verovatno cu uzeti taj, ali se dvoumim izmedju Lg-a... Kakav je za konzole ovaj tv? Znaci/fali li mu nesto sto nema ''game mode''??
 
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Sta da ti kazem za a656. Jedan od bestbuy televizora za 2008. Ima naravno Game mode, zasto ne bi imao. E sad mane 32" modela, panel nije S-pva i manji kontrast i to je to. Njegov konkurent Sony je W4000, koji je mnogo skuplji kod nas.

The A656:
- Slightly more contrast ratios than the Sony, however can reflect more,
- Cheaper,
- Had a 'out-of-focus' problem, although fixed by a firmware update,
- Slight input lag (30ms after FW, 60ms before - lower with GAME mode),
- No 'options' locked or hidden in the menu,
- 100Hz (sometimes nice),

The W4000:
- Not quite as good contrast ratio, however does not reflect so baldy in brightly light rooms,
- Slightly better colouring system (although not much in it),
- No FW updates required (so far, although Sony does less of them),
- No/very low input lag (useful for gaming),
- One less HDMI port,
- Some 'advance' options are hidden/unlocked,
- Does not have 100Hz option, although does a good job without it,

However generally, both have been getting very good comments, including things like black levels, SD and HD quality etc.

Ne znam kolko ti je dobro znanje engleskog ali evo ti odlicna tema sto se tice input laga http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-televisions/986767-input-lag-40-lcd-tvs.html

Ako uzmes LG uzeces losiji televizor u svemu, i nadu da ima bolji input lag mada nigde nisam procitao da je tako.. Sa a656 ne mozes da pogresis.30ms neces primetiti. Evo da kupujem lcd opet uzeo bi a656, da kupujem plasmu uzeo bih Panasonic G10. Toliko od mene.
 
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Sa koje razdaljine ces gledati TV ? Koliko vidim, ti si polako sa 60k dosao na 100k :), sledece je 150k. :D


Sto se tice input laga, 40V/W4000 imaju odlican input lag i skuplji su ~10k od A656.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-kdl40v4000-review-20080822127.htm
I could detect no input lag at all, and input lag tests confirmed that there was between 0ms and 10ms present. This is an excellent result, and as such, the Sony KDL40V4000 should present no gaming problems at all.
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL40W4000/Picture-Quality/
We measured the input lag on the Sony KDL40W4000 to be 30ms better/ faster than our resident Samsung F96 reference, meaning that it's probably on par with a CRT (as good as it gets). Now we know why Sony didn't bother including a [Game Mode] in the user menu... there's simply no need
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Picture-Quality.htm
Here's the not-so-good news: even with [100Hz Motion Plus] disabled, we measured input lag on the LE40A656 to be 30ms slower than our resident Samsung F96, which means that it's up to 60ms slower than the Sony W4000.

There are two ways to mitigate input lag (to the level where it's on par with the Samsung F96) on the LE40A656, neither of which is satisfactory. The first is to set [Entertainment Mode] to "Game", but the resultant image would be too bright and over-sharpened (which cannot be fixed because the picture settings are locked).

The other (slightly better) method is to use the VGA port which seems to be clear of most of Samsung LE40A656 's processing, and can accept and display 1920x1080 progressive video signals. However, not every gaming console has a VGA output (think Sony PS3). Also, some key picture adjustment controls such as [Sharpness], [Colour] and [100Hz Motion Plus] are greyed-out and unavailable in PC/ VGA mode.
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Na novom B650 moze da se podesava slika u GM.
 
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Pa realno ako ide do 100k, trebao bi da razmislja o plasmi Panasonic 42 G10 jer je svakako bolji od A656, a posto je resen problem burn in-a nece imati problema sa igrama, a tek da ne pominjemo odlican input lag.
 
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Izgleda da ce ipak biti negde oko 60-80K. Pa recimo da je razdaljina negde oko 2, 2.5m onako na ''oko''... 40 inca bi bilo skroz ok.. (Posto bih kasnije preneo tv na mnogo vece mesto/razdaljinu) Poludeh ljudi vise skroz.. :S Samo mi se po glavi vrte konrtasti, lagovi, inci..:d 40w4000 bih ja vrlo rado.. Pa cak i 32w4000.. Nego, 40A656 nije isao do 100k.. Ovo je bilo nesto preko prijatelja ( znate kako se obicno to zavrsi:trust:) Kao sto rekoh.. Cist gaming, malo filmova, kacenja umesto monitora.. Bas sam bio pre neki dan do Metro-a i Tehnomarketa.. Videh ova dva modela, pa da vas pitam.. No.1 - Sony Kdl 40l400k - 90.000k i Samsung 40A536 valjda bese oko 80k..cheers
 
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Kolko ima ovih serija sonyja vise ni sam ne znam koja je koja, a sve se razlikuju u nekoj sitnici. Ih samo polako, ja sam vrteo izbor televizora mesecima, imas jos vremena heh, ali mogu da pohvalim Samsung seriju 5, sa njom ne mozes da pogresis, samo sto ne znam kakav je input lag.
 
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Sonamy_Boy je napisao(la):
Poludeh ljudi vise skroz.. :S Samo mi se po glavi vrte konrtasti, lagovi, inci..:d
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Posto sam prosao sve to prosle godine (poceo sam intenzivno da se "informisem" o izboru oko septembra da bi u decembru pala odluka, naravno A656), znam kako ti je. Samo probaj da zamislis kako mi je sada kada umesto contrasta, ratio, brigthness i ostalih gluposto vrtim kvadratne metre, parket/laminat, kakva je drvenarija, lokacija, povracaj PDV..... joj, kupovina TV je bila uzivancija kada se sada setim :mad:
 
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Gizmor je napisao(la):
Sta da ti kazem za a656. Jedan od bestbuy televizora za 2008. Ima naravno Game mode, zasto ne bi imao. E sad mane 32" modela, panel nije S-pva i manji kontrast i to je to.
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Samo da te ispravim da 32A656 ima S-PVA panel uz oznaku SQ01 na nalepnici sa desne strane televizora (gledano spreda). Takodje, za razliku od verzije 37A656, verzija 32" ima UltraClear Panel (37" ima samo Clear).
 
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pbogdanovic je napisao(la):
Samo da te ispravim da 32A656 ima S-PVA panel uz oznaku SQ01 na nalepnici sa desne strane televizora (gledano spreda). Takodje, za razliku od verzije 37A656, verzija 32" ima UltraClear Panel (37" ima samo Clear).
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Vidi stvarno, moja greska. Posto znam da 37" nema s-pva panel, pretpostavljao sam da je ista situacija i sa 32" modelom, ali ipak nije tako.
 
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Pitanje za Sonamy Boya : Sta si na kraju pazario i kako si zadovoljan.

Pitam jer burazer treba isto da kupi neki TV za Sony Ps3,pa da vidim kakvu su vasha iskustva?
 
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