Šta je novo?

Opera 8.0 beta 1

Cekam full pa ci onda da skinem
 
Ne radi ovaj link:(
 
Ja sam probao. Nisam primetio nista novo u odnosu na 7.6 preview 1.

Ima jedna sitnica koja me nervira u poslednjih nekoliko verzija (posle 7.5). Kada kliknem na neku stranicu u Page baru nista se ne desava, dok je u prethodnim verzijama to prebacivalo fokus na prethodno aktivnu stranicu. Nisam uspeo ovo da pronadjem nigde u opcijama. Ima li resenja, mnogo me nervira?
 
Ha, trazio sam danima, ustrucavao da pitama a sada sam slucajno otkrio samo sekund posle postavljanja pitanja. Mozda nekom zatreba. Resenje je ukljucivanje preferences->windows->Advanced Opera workspace.
 
Ja sam skinuo ovu betu i mogu reci jedno - odusevljen sam! A cime to?
Prvo, konacno su shvatili da neki ljudi ne zele da imaju IRC i mail klijent zajedno spakovane sa browserom pa su ih sada sklonili. Zato je opera sada laksa i brza (a i manje memorije mi trosi). Drugo sto me odusevljava je brzina kojom otvara strane - upravo sam testirao otvaranje jedne te iste stranice iz 7.54 i 8.0 beta 1 i dosao do zakljucka da v8.0 otvara stranice brze i po pet sekundi (imajte u vidu da tokom svakodnevnog koriscenja v7.54 ista ima ogroman broj stranica i fajlova u cache-u).

Malo su izmenili look, dodali neki bar koji se pojavljuje kao nastavak adress baru... i vesto sklonili podesavanje progress bara :)

Sve u svemu, iako je beta, ostaje default browser.

Edit:
Primetio sam da ova beta prikazuje neke detalje kao sto su combo liste drugacije od v7.54 (nema outline oko boxa). Btw, download manager je ostao isti.
 
Poslednja izmena:
Progress bar se namešta na View-Toolbars-Customize. Progress Bar stavi na pop-up at bottom of window.

Inače da se ne zbunite ovo je preimenovana verzija Opere 7.6 preview 5. Pošto sam ranije koristio 7.6p4 nisam primetio neka značajna poboljšanja. Inače, važe cd-keyevi od Opere 7.
 
Meni je jedino zao sto download manager nije poboljsan tako da bude omoguceno odredjivanje maksimalnog broja downloada, odnosno stavljanje nekih poslova u red.
 
I ja bih to rek'o...
Malo je glupo da izbacuju novu verziju koja uopste ne donosi neke velike novine u odnosuna 7.60 preview koja i onkao nije zavrsena do kraja... Skinuo sam je i ne premecujem neke znacajne promene u odnosu na 7.60 Preview 4 - sta vise - u imenu prozora mi i dalje stoji Opera 7.60 Preview ali verzija je 8.00 beta 1 build 7401 kada kliknem na Help>About Opera.
 
Kome treba download manager od Opere kad je tu najjaci manager na svetu internet download manager :).
Inace beta 8,slicna mi je kao 7.60,ali treba je malo duze koristiti da bi nesto vise primetio.
 
Meni smeta u 8-i sto ne prikazuje protok pri surfu. Gore u toolbaru, pored link adrese, prikazuje % "otvaranja" stranice ali nema nigde prikaza protoka. Moze li se to negde podesiti, trazio sam ali bez uspeha.
 
npetar je napisao(la):
Meni smeta u 8-i sto ne prikazuje protok pri surfu. Gore u toolbaru, pored link adrese, prikazuje % "otvaranja" stranice ali nema nigde prikaza protoka. Moze li se to negde podesiti, trazio sam ali bez uspeha.
Volim da citiram samog sebe:
kole89 je napisao(la):
Progress bar se namešta na View-Toolbars-Customize. Progress Bar stavi na pop-up at bottom of window.

faxcool je napisao(la):
u imenu prozora mi i dalje stoji Opera 7.60 Preview ali verzija je 8.00 beta 1 build 7401 kada kliknem na Help>About Opera.
Verovatno si instalirao novu verziju preko stare. Meni piše u imenu prozora Opera Beta.
 
Changelog for Opera Beta for Windows

At first glance:

Improved user interface
More workspace in the default setup.
Cleaner menu setup and dynamic display of messaging features.
Notification of blocked pop-ups.
Simple retrieval of closed pages and blocked pop-ups.
New start bar gives easy access to useful features.
Voice functionality is available for Windows 2000 and XP.
"Fit to window width" feature removes the horizontal scrollbar.
"Fit to page width" feature improves printing.
Enhanced RSS newsfeed reader is available without activating e-mail client.
Support for XMLHttpRequest; Gmail Web mail is fully supported.
Implemented automated weekly check for updated versions.

Changes since 7.54u1:

User Interface

Added voice feature and support for documents written in XHTML+VoiceXML.
Enable in Tools > Preferences > Voice to download the necessary additional files.
Available for Windows 2000 and XP only.
For more information, see the help files and the Opera with Voice page.
Made the default "Prefer pages inside window" setup simpler and added choice of window preference to first run start-up dialog.
Added "Advanced Opera workspace" preference that makes full use of the Multiple Document Interface.
Extensive simplification of menus and dialogs. The menu and panel setup is now dynamic and depends on what features the user has activated:
The "Mail" and "Chat" menus and panels are added as e-mail and chat accounts are set up by the user. Account handling is now available in the "Tools" menu.
A separate "Feeds" menu is added when the user adds an RSS newsfeed for the first time.
The contacts panel is only displayed if e-mail or chat accounts exist.
The "Window" menu is only displayed when the "Advanced Opera workspace" option is selected in the first run start-up dialog Tools > Preferences > Windows.
Removed "Navigation" menu.
Added trash can button on the page bar that notifies of blocked pop-ups and doubles as a repository for closed pages that can be retrieved.
Unwanted pop-ups are now blocked by default.
Added start bar that drops down from the address field when it is focused. Contains various options for navigation and search.
Added view bar toggled by the eye button on the address bar. Contains new voice button, new "fit to window width" feature, search in page, and styling/zooming options.
New customization dialog (View > Toolbars > Customize) includes customization of panel setup.
New "Delete private data" dialog has simple and advanced options.
"Save with images" is now an option within the save dialog, found in the "File type" drop-down menu.
"Continue from last time" is now the default start-up setting.
In the default setup, each tab on the page bar has its own "Close" button.
Enhancements to notifications for transfers, messages, and feed items. Notifications are now displayed above the system tray.
Swapped F4 with Shift + F4 for toggling panels. F4 now toggles the panels with the panel selector.
Added Ctrl + F12 and Shift + F12 as keyboard shortcuts for the Preferences and Customize dialogs, respectively.
Enabled text selection in certain dialogs, such as JavaScript Alert.
The "in-line find" option for search in page has been moved to the search preferences.
Added setting for (dis-)allowing scripts to hide the address bar. Available in Tools > Preferences > Multimedia > JavaScript options.
Fixed problem selecting the first letter of a text selection with the mouse.
Fixed problem where form element status was forgotten when toggling print preview.

Display and standards support

Implemented Opera's Extensible Rendering Architecture (ERA):
Added "Fit to window width" feature. Available on Web pages and for printing, this setting squeezes page contents to make them fit the width of the screen and avoid horizontal scrolling or margin overflow.
The "Small screen" mode now includes more of the page's original styling.
Support for CSS3 speech module (properties new to CSS3 are prefixed by "-xv-") and XHTML+Voice 1.2
Support for XMLHttpRequest, required for using Gmail Web mail. Also added support for XMLSerializer and DOMParser.
Support for DOM3 Load and Save.
Transparent background (wmode) support for plug-ins.
Changed calculated line height to be based on actual font size rather than specified font size.
Fixed handling of nested floats.
Several fixes related to bidirectional text support.
Allow mixing of background-position and keyword, in accordance with CSS2.1.
Borders for radio buttons and checkboxes can not be turned off with CSS.
Improved handling of paged media.
Recognize "application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml" documents as handheld.

Messaging and newsfeeds

When a page has embedded links for one or several RSS newsfeeds, an RSS icon is displayed within the address field. Click on the icon to subscribe or get a multiple choice menu if several newsfeed links are present. Improved "Add newsfeed?" dialog.
Separate "Feeds" menu is added to Opera's main menu when first newsfeed is activated. Newsfeeds can now be read independently of the mail panel.
Improved consistency of newsfeed checking.
Improved handling of contacts with multiple e-mail addresses.
Added options to mark message threads as read (keyboard shortcut M) and go to next unread thread (shortcut N.
Several improvements to quick reply: expand automatically when typing multiple lines, handle one draft per message, and reset focus to message list after replying.

Chat improvements

Status is now set globally in the chat menu.
Added "ban" and "kick with reason" commands, as well as typed "/invite" command.
Support for links/URLs using "irc://".
List of servers updated and expanded.

Security

Fix for tabbed/MDI browsing vulnerability reported in Secunia Advisory SA12713. For more information, see Opera's security advisory: Phishing attack possible with a delayed JavaScript prompt
The closed padlock icon for secure sites now appears inside the address field. Click to display security information concerning the site.

Documentation

Help documents are now on line, still accessible from the menu or by pressing F1.
Implemented in-line error pages that replace most error dialogs.
Help files and error pages have the CSS signatures "opera-help" and "opera-error".

Miscellaneous

Implemented automated weekly version control to let user know whether there is a new release of Opera available. (Can be disabled by setting "Check For New Opera=0" in Opera6.ini.)
Manual "Check for new release" option added to help menu.
If Java is enabled, but not found, the user will be prompted and offered a download. If the user accepts, the Java Runtime Environment download page is loaded; no Opera with Java version is offered.
Various stability improvements.
Fixed authentication issue; pages can now be authenticated in any sequence.
Fix to restore previous default file settings after uninstalling Opera.

Evo vozim je tri dana i odusevljen sam - poboljsanje po pitanju brzine je ocigledno, gmail konacno leti kao i na ostalim browserima... ma procitali ste valjda.

Definitivno ostaje default browser!

btw: prelazak sa verzije 7 je besplatan.
 
ne mogu da verujem da je Zoni postavio ovu temu :D
 
cekajte, jesam li ja to dobro pohvatao: osmica ne pokazuje brzinu dload-a (trenutni protok)?
Ako je ovo tacno onda su stvarno usr**i stvar - pa to mi je najbolja stvar u operi!
 
NE nego je uveden dodatni prikaz procenta ucitanog materijala, koji sada mozes da gledas i u address fieldu. sve opcije ti se nalaze u view / toolbars / customize / toolbars / progress bar

doduse, tu se vidi samo procenat ucitanog materijala i broj ucitanih slika, nema brzine i ostalih informacija, tako da ja drzim sve kao i ranije (popup at bottom of page)
 
Poslednja izmena:
cekaj prvo si rekao "ne" a posle "doduse....."
dakle jel ima ili nema KB/s?
 
mozes da namestis kako hoces. moze i da ima i da nema.
skini novu operu, idi tamo gde sam ti rekao i sve ce ti se samo ka'sti ;)
 
Broz je napisao(la):
cekajte, jesam li ja to dobro pohvatao: osmica ne pokazuje brzinu dload-a (trenutni protok)?
Ako je ovo tacno onda su stvarno usr**i stvar - pa to mi je najbolja stvar u operi!

kole89 je napisao(la):
Progress bar se namešta na View-Toolbars-Customize. Progress Bar stavi na pop-up at bottom of window.

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Znaci, ima i prikaza kB/s ;) Samo glupo sto su ovu opciju po defaultu sakrili.
 
Poslednja izmena:
ja bez toga ne mogu ! Kad sam to prvi put video odusevio sam se, napokon znam koji sajtovi rade sporo, koji brzo itd. Stedim vreme :)
 
@gx-x

Takodje.
 
I meni je ovo bio razlog No1. sto sam ostao na Operi. Gotivno je kad imas brzu konekciju, pa kad gledas kako se brzo stranice ucitavaju.
Nekako mi lepo ono kb/s deluje na ego :d
 
Imam problem sa Operom 7.54.

Do sada sam iz IE-a kada kliknem na neki topic mogao da vidim sta pise u njemu neotvarajuci ga, a sada kada "stanem" kursorom preko topic-a samo vidim njegov link.

Moze li se nekako namestiti da bude kao pre?
 
Ni ja ne mogu bez kb/s... tacno znam kada mi je veza mrtva i kako ce se ponasati.
Evo ja furam betu vec 2 - 3 dana, pukla je jednom (doduse to je bila lancana reakcija, nije se sama od sebe ubila)... i prezadovoljan sam.
Btw, svidja mi se to sto sama otvara tabove sa zadnje pregledanim stranama pre neposrednog gasenja programa.

I dalje im zameram sto nisu poboljsali dl manager. Istina je da su standalone DM-i bolji i funkcionalniji, ali mene izuzetno mrzi da se cimam sa FlashGetom...

@Ogi
Nemas sta da namestas, to je samo pitanje kompatibilnosti... meni je sa Operom 7.54 to radilo bez problema (a radi i sa 8.0 b1).
 
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