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За све nVidia хејтере (где спадам и ја 
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NVIDIA Grabs for 30% of Integrated Graphics Market
If Intel felt bad about losing the MacBook graphics war, they will hate what's coming next
For a long time Intel has enjoyed significant domination in the notebook integrated graphics world. Its integrated graphics chips were so popular that they alone gave Intel the lead in the graphics market.
NVIDIA, the leader in discrete graphics, has its eyes on Intel's integrated market and its latest integrated GPU -- the 9400M -- may be just the chip to grab share from Intel. NVIDIA's Nick Stam believes that the 9400M could grab 30% of the existing integrated graphics market.
Laptop Magazine had a long interview with Stam to talk about the new GPU and other NVIDIA issues. NVIDIA and Apple claim that the 9400M delivers about five times the performance of Intel's X4500HD integrated graphics. Laptop says that in its testing an improvement of about 2.5 times was seen. Despite the improvement in performance, the new MacBook using the 9400M was able to last five hours in the Laptop battery test.
Intel wasn't happy when it lost out on the MacBook GPU business. DailyTech reported this month that Intel has pledged to do whatever it takes to win the Mac business back. Stam says that users who just check email and surf the web won’t really notice any improvements of the 9400M compared to Intel's integrated GPU. However, those who encode video, use Google Earth and other applications will notice the increased power.
Stam says that NVIDIA is also working on a sort of upscaling technology for internet videos. A good example is YouTube; anyone who has watched a YouTube video knows the average quality is far from good. NVIDIA says future technology it is working on could make the video much clearer just like an upscaling DVD player does with DVD movies.
NVIDIA is mum on when we might see this upscaling technology, but says it is working with seven or eight companies that are making video enhancement technologies. Speaking on NVIDIA's goal of grabbing 30% of the integrated video market, Stam says that five other major notebook manufacturers are planning to ship notebooks using the 9400M GPU soon.
Laptop asked Stam why you had to log-out and back in to change from integrated to discrete graphics on the MacBook Pro. Stam says that log-out and in processes isn't needed on the Windows platform with NVIDIA GPUs, but the software for OS X isn't to the point where that is possible yet. Stam does say that is a feature coming in the future.
Speaking about the massive GPU failures in notebooks form Apple, HP, and Dell Stam told Laptop, "… it [GPU failures] has to be a bad thermal environment and lots of power cycling. Many different scenarios have to come together to cause the problem. We set a lot of money aside, but we really haven’t had to service a lot of that. All of a sudden when you say something like that the whole world blows up and thinks it’s every notebook."
The 9400M GPU can scale down to netbook use according to Stam. The clocks can scale and NVIDIA has a reduced function version of the GPU for lower-end systems. Stam also says there has been interest from netbook makers, but he declined to reveal what firms were interested. NVIDIA expects its TEGRA GPU to be very popular in the netbook market next year.
http://www.dailytech.com/NVIDIA+Grabs+for+30+of+Integrated+Graphics+Market/article13275.htm
)NVIDIA Grabs for 30% of Integrated Graphics Market
If Intel felt bad about losing the MacBook graphics war, they will hate what's coming next
For a long time Intel has enjoyed significant domination in the notebook integrated graphics world. Its integrated graphics chips were so popular that they alone gave Intel the lead in the graphics market.
NVIDIA, the leader in discrete graphics, has its eyes on Intel's integrated market and its latest integrated GPU -- the 9400M -- may be just the chip to grab share from Intel. NVIDIA's Nick Stam believes that the 9400M could grab 30% of the existing integrated graphics market.
Laptop Magazine had a long interview with Stam to talk about the new GPU and other NVIDIA issues. NVIDIA and Apple claim that the 9400M delivers about five times the performance of Intel's X4500HD integrated graphics. Laptop says that in its testing an improvement of about 2.5 times was seen. Despite the improvement in performance, the new MacBook using the 9400M was able to last five hours in the Laptop battery test.
Intel wasn't happy when it lost out on the MacBook GPU business. DailyTech reported this month that Intel has pledged to do whatever it takes to win the Mac business back. Stam says that users who just check email and surf the web won’t really notice any improvements of the 9400M compared to Intel's integrated GPU. However, those who encode video, use Google Earth and other applications will notice the increased power.
Stam says that NVIDIA is also working on a sort of upscaling technology for internet videos. A good example is YouTube; anyone who has watched a YouTube video knows the average quality is far from good. NVIDIA says future technology it is working on could make the video much clearer just like an upscaling DVD player does with DVD movies.
NVIDIA is mum on when we might see this upscaling technology, but says it is working with seven or eight companies that are making video enhancement technologies. Speaking on NVIDIA's goal of grabbing 30% of the integrated video market, Stam says that five other major notebook manufacturers are planning to ship notebooks using the 9400M GPU soon.
Laptop asked Stam why you had to log-out and back in to change from integrated to discrete graphics on the MacBook Pro. Stam says that log-out and in processes isn't needed on the Windows platform with NVIDIA GPUs, but the software for OS X isn't to the point where that is possible yet. Stam does say that is a feature coming in the future.
Speaking about the massive GPU failures in notebooks form Apple, HP, and Dell Stam told Laptop, "… it [GPU failures] has to be a bad thermal environment and lots of power cycling. Many different scenarios have to come together to cause the problem. We set a lot of money aside, but we really haven’t had to service a lot of that. All of a sudden when you say something like that the whole world blows up and thinks it’s every notebook."
The 9400M GPU can scale down to netbook use according to Stam. The clocks can scale and NVIDIA has a reduced function version of the GPU for lower-end systems. Stam also says there has been interest from netbook makers, but he declined to reveal what firms were interested. NVIDIA expects its TEGRA GPU to be very popular in the netbook market next year.
http://www.dailytech.com/NVIDIA+Grabs+for+30+of+Integrated+Graphics+Market/article13275.htm
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Hm, znaci nVidia ocekuje da ce uzeti 30% trzista - ne vidim u cemu je ova vest posebna - naravno da ocekuju uspeh, ako su predstavili novi proizvod. Mada, pored Intel-a i AMD-a koji imaju u notebook segmentu kompletna resenja, ne vidim neku dugorocnu srecu za nVidia-u na ovom polju. Posebno, ako se ima u vidu da ce Nehalem imati integrisanu grafiku u samom cipu, a i AMD sprema slicno resenje.
Nvidia je lost in space i pokusavaju ocajniiki da napave neki boom.
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Nisi ti to dobro shvatio
U prevodu : Neki tamo nikogovic iz NVIDIJE veruje da bi mozda nesto moglo da se desi
Hype, hype, hype...
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Са 30% на 20%
Није више 30%, сад је већ 20%. Следеће недеље ће пасти на 10% ако наставе овим темпом са прогнозама .
Nvidia GeForce 9400M chipset could grab 20% share of Intel notebook platforms
Monica Chen, Taipei; Joseph Tsai, DIGITIMES [Monday 27 October 2008]
In addition to Apple's new MacBook and MacBook Pro, several global first-tier notebook vendors including Asustek Computer, Acer, Hewlett-Packard (HP) and Dell are all planning to launch MCP79-based (GeForce 9400M) notebook products this year. Some notebook vendors believe the chipset will have a chance to grab a 20% share among Intel CPU-based notebook platforms.
Asustek is planning to launch the F50GX notebook using the MCP79 chipset with a 16-inch 16:9 aspect ratio panel, and GeForce 9600M discrete graphics card, targeting the gamer market. The company is also planning to launch more MCP79-based notebooks by the end of this year or beginning of next year, according to Tony Chen, general manager of notebook business in Asustek.
Ujesh Desai, general manager of GeForce products at Nvidia pointed out that over 10 MCP79-based notebook products from global first-tier notebook vendors will be launched by the end of this year and beginning of next year.
Tony Chen, general manager of notebook business, Asustek (left) and Ujesh Desai, general manager of GeForce products, Nvidia (right)
Photo: Monica Chen, Digitimes, October 2008
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081027PD211.html
Није више 30%, сад је већ 20%
. Следеће недеље ће пасти на 10% ако наставе овим темпом са прогнозама .Nvidia GeForce 9400M chipset could grab 20% share of Intel notebook platforms
Monica Chen, Taipei; Joseph Tsai, DIGITIMES [Monday 27 October 2008]
In addition to Apple's new MacBook and MacBook Pro, several global first-tier notebook vendors including Asustek Computer, Acer, Hewlett-Packard (HP) and Dell are all planning to launch MCP79-based (GeForce 9400M) notebook products this year. Some notebook vendors believe the chipset will have a chance to grab a 20% share among Intel CPU-based notebook platforms.
Asustek is planning to launch the F50GX notebook using the MCP79 chipset with a 16-inch 16:9 aspect ratio panel, and GeForce 9600M discrete graphics card, targeting the gamer market. The company is also planning to launch more MCP79-based notebooks by the end of this year or beginning of next year, according to Tony Chen, general manager of notebook business in Asustek.
Ujesh Desai, general manager of GeForce products at Nvidia pointed out that over 10 MCP79-based notebook products from global first-tier notebook vendors will be launched by the end of this year and beginning of next year.
Tony Chen, general manager of notebook business, Asustek (left) and Ujesh Desai, general manager of GeForce products, Nvidia (right)
Photo: Monica Chen, Digitimes, October 2008
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081027PD211.html
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** ovog puta nije crv nego... INTEL
mozda ce nekoga interesovati - Intel's senior vice president Anand Chandrasekher je pre par dana pricao kako su iPhone i slicni uredjaji shity jer koriste ARM i da bez intelovog CPU nema "full interneta" na palmolikom uredjajima (za primer je uzeo iPhone)!
nije proslo ni pet dana i!:
"Intel 'corrects' executives who slammed iPhone"
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10074228-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0
i komentar:
"... after three years of unfettered cooperation, there's a bit of bad blood brewing between the chipmaker (Intel) and Apple over differences in their mobile hardware strategies.
"This week's exercise, however, is an interesting example of how much power Apple wields over one of the most important and historic companies in technology."
Intel is likely to be particularly conscious of its standing with Apple given that the Mac maker has recently replaced the Intel controller chipsets it has used ever since its transition to Intel CPUs in 2006 with a new more powerful controller from NVIDIA in its latest line of top selling MacBooks."
mozda ce nekoga interesovati - Intel's senior vice president Anand Chandrasekher je pre par dana pricao kako su iPhone i slicni uredjaji shity jer koriste ARM i da bez intelovog CPU nema "full interneta" na palmolikom uredjajima (za primer je uzeo iPhone)!
nije proslo ni pet dana i!:
"Intel 'corrects' executives who slammed iPhone"
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10074228-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0
i komentar:
"... after three years of unfettered cooperation, there's a bit of bad blood brewing between the chipmaker (Intel) and Apple over differences in their mobile hardware strategies.
"This week's exercise, however, is an interesting example of how much power Apple wields over one of the most important and historic companies in technology."
Intel is likely to be particularly conscious of its standing with Apple given that the Mac maker has recently replaced the Intel controller chipsets it has used ever since its transition to Intel CPUs in 2006 with a new more powerful controller from NVIDIA in its latest line of top selling MacBooks."
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hehe...
ovo je ili marketinski potez (?!?!?!? WTF) ili...
Apple recruits top chip designer, IBM responds with suit
"Apple recently recruited a top chip designer from IBM, resulting in a lawsuit that seeks to prevent the executive from taking his knowledge as "IBM's top expert in Power architecture and technology" to the Mac maker."
bas me interesuje kakav ce to sad chip "ispasti" iz Apple-a.
nakon "mesanja| u ARM, pa altivec... ??
ovo je ili marketinski potez (?!?!?!? WTF) ili...
Apple recruits top chip designer, IBM responds with suit
"Apple recently recruited a top chip designer from IBM, resulting in a lawsuit that seeks to prevent the executive from taking his knowledge as "IBM's top expert in Power architecture and technology" to the Mac maker."
bas me interesuje kakav ce to sad chip "ispasti" iz Apple-a.
nakon "mesanja| u ARM, pa altivec... ??
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Nemojte dalji off-topic o Macu ovde, otvorite novu temu o IBM i Apple ako vec morate. Inace nista od toga ne ce biti zbog "legal obligations" koje radnici imaju prema IBM.
Inace novi problem nVidije je sto GTX 280 sada kosta 375$ sto je 125$ manje nego HD 4870x2, a AMD nema nameru da spusta cenu.
Inace novi problem nVidije je sto GTX 280 sada kosta 375$ sto je 125$ manje nego HD 4870x2, a AMD nema nameru da spusta cenu.
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nemojte o Apple i IBMu... a on o nvidiji i AMDu :d elem, o od toga ima sve. covek je poceo da radi i po netu kazu da nece biti problema
inace Papermaster je preuzeo funkciju sefa za Handle uredjaje posto je iPod izumitelj, Tony Fadell, smanjio svoje prisustvo u Appleu... i btw nisam hteo da otvaram jos jednu temu vec samo da se nadovezem na pricu o chipovima u Appleu.pored toga OTKAZANA su definitivno sva unapredjenja Macova za ovu godinu!
suskalo se da ce pre novo godine iMac, MacMini... dobiti facelifting u vidu boljih komponenti (CPU, GFX...) ali je sve to odlozeno za 2009 !!!
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Ne kapiram ? Sto je nVidia u problemu zbog toga sto 4870x2 drzi istu cenu ?
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Па логично би било да АМД снизи цену свог топ производа јер је то учинио главни конкурент са својим топ производом, али пошто се картица одлично продаје, немају потребе и зато је nVidia у проблему :wave:.
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Ништа ново
Nvidia reports $897.7 million revenue for Q3
Yesterday, after whipping off its tears, the Green Graphics Goblin that resides in Santa Clara aka Nvidia has revealed its results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2009. Ended on October 28, the three-month period has seen the company's revenues reach $897.7 million, down 20% compared to the $1.12 billion make in Q3 FY 2008, and its profits drop like drunk flies and settle at $61.7 million.
"We made good progress on multiple fronts during the quarter," said Jen-Hsun Huang, president and CEO of Nvidia. "Improving gross margin while managing operating expenses enabled us to significantly improve our operating fundamentals. We transitioned our performance segment GPUs to 55 nanometers and are now poised to recapture lost share. We entered the fastest growing segment of the PC market with our first notebook chipset for Intel processors, and delivered on several exciting new growth initiatives -- 3-way SLI for the Intel Core i7 processor platform, Quadro CX for Adobe CS4 creative professionals and the Tesla supercomputing processor."
In the first nine months of FY 2009 Nvidia's revenue was of $2.94 billion, up just a bit over the $2.90 billion of the same period in FY 2008 while its net income was of only $117 million, some 4.6 times lower on-year. As for Q4, with AMD's rather strong Radeon line-up and the current problems of the world's economies we shouldn't expect many good news from Nvidia. 2008 just hasn't been its year.
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=22754&catid=6
Nvidia reports $897.7 million revenue for Q3
Yesterday, after whipping off its tears, the Green Graphics Goblin that resides in Santa Clara aka Nvidia has revealed its results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2009. Ended on October 28, the three-month period has seen the company's revenues reach $897.7 million, down 20% compared to the $1.12 billion make in Q3 FY 2008, and its profits drop like drunk flies and settle at $61.7 million.
"We made good progress on multiple fronts during the quarter," said Jen-Hsun Huang, president and CEO of Nvidia. "Improving gross margin while managing operating expenses enabled us to significantly improve our operating fundamentals. We transitioned our performance segment GPUs to 55 nanometers and are now poised to recapture lost share. We entered the fastest growing segment of the PC market with our first notebook chipset for Intel processors, and delivered on several exciting new growth initiatives -- 3-way SLI for the Intel Core i7 processor platform, Quadro CX for Adobe CS4 creative professionals and the Tesla supercomputing processor."
In the first nine months of FY 2009 Nvidia's revenue was of $2.94 billion, up just a bit over the $2.90 billion of the same period in FY 2008 while its net income was of only $117 million, some 4.6 times lower on-year. As for Q4, with AMD's rather strong Radeon line-up and the current problems of the world's economies we shouldn't expect many good news from Nvidia. 2008 just hasn't been its year.
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=22754&catid=6
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NVIDIA gubi trzisni udeo:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/12/nvidia-loses-market-share-amd
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/12/nvidia-loses-market-share-amd
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http://www.benchmark.rs/forum/showthread.php?p=1636223#post1636223
Procitajte linkove iz ove teme, izgleda da ATi krece u napad i na CUDA-u...
Procitajte linkove iz ove teme, izgleda da ATi krece u napad i na CUDA-u...
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Čini mi se da mešaš stvari. CUDA != Physics
CUDA je ekstenzija C++, koja omogućava pisanje koda koji će se izvršavati na nVidia GPU-ovima. Dok je Physics API osmišljen da olakša pisanje simulacija fizike. Nakon što je preuzela Aigea-u nVidia je reimplementirala samu Physics biblioteku tako da koristi CUDA-u i na taj način omogućila da se akceleracija proračuna fizike vrši na GPU-u.
Usvajanje OpenCL-a kao standarda ne garantuje da ćemo dobiti "fiziku" koja bi mogla da se izvršava na GPU-ovima bilo kog proizvođača. Odluka oba tabora da podrže OpenCL ne mora da znači da će napustiti svoje standarde. Tako će recimo AMD najverovatnije zadržati CAL (CTM), a podršku za OpenCL implementirati kao dodatni sloj koji se oslanja na CAL (kao što se trenutno Brook+ oslanja na CAL). Nešto slično može da uradi i nVidia. U takvoj situaciji akceleracija Physics APIa bi ostala ekskluzivno rezervisana za nVidia GPU-ove (osim ako nVidia ne bi ponovo prepisala samu biblioteku tako da umesto CUDA koristi OpenCL).
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Mislim da on ne mesa stvari, samo je hteo da kaze da PhysX bez CUDA ne radi
