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Danas su se pojavili prvi Crossfire testovi i kako kazu po raznim review sajtovima, nije nista posebno...

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AnandTech

Despite exceptional performance at its target resolutions, we have to strongly recommend against the purchase of an X800/X850 series CrossFire card. We have a hard time recommending all but the absolute top end NVIDIA 7800 GTX SLI as a viable solution.

Beyond3D

It's fairly clear that when ATI introduced their PCI Express Radeon lines they didn't consider at that point on using them for multiple graphics board rendering and as such they have ended up with a few compromises...

Digit-Life

One thing is clear: this technology (CrossFire) appeared too late; it will be very hard to compete with NVIDIA SLI, considering what foothold SLI has already gained on the market...

DriverHeaven

At this time though it (CrossFire) is no match for a 7800 SLI system in terms of outright performance and feature set (SM3) and because of this it’s hard to recommend when weighed again Nvidia's SLI...

ExtremeTech

But ATI's new dual-graphics technology is not without drawbacks. The DVI dongle seems a bit clunky compared with a nice little internal card-link like the one used for SLI, and the need to buy a special "CrossFire Edition" card instead of just any additional matched graphics card is kind of a bummer.

FiringSquad

That’s right, the rumors you’ve been hearing about CrossFire being limited to 1600x1200 max resolution at a headache-inducing 60Hz are unfortunately true. How ATI’s engineers could have overlooked this limitation when developing CrossFire - a product which doesn’t really shine until you crank up the screen resolutions - is pretty baffling.

HardOCP

We want to make some comparisons between CrossFire and SLI. We will start with installation. Simply put, CrossFire is more complex and harder to set up than SLI.

Hexus

The current downsides massively outweight the good points that do their best to shine through. Too late by far, this level of Crossfire would have been relevant a few months ago before the launch of NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT and GTX...

PC Perspective

That being said, you can probably guess that I don’t think much of the Radeon XPress 200 CrossFire Edition chipset as it stands now; the nForce4 chipset just has a lot more to offer and didn’t cut any of the corners that ATI has done...

t-break

With that said, we now come to the question of who will buy CrossFire. Frankly speaking, we don’t know anyone who would want to. Not because of the issues mentioned above but because ATI is a bit too late with it.

The Tech Report

Other CrossFire shortcomings will likely be addressed with the release of new ATI graphics hardware, including the resolution/refresh rate ceiling of 1600x1200 at 60Hz. However, some CrossFire idiosyncracies probably won't be going away any time soon, including the need for a separate CrossFire Edition master card, those pesky external cables, and the relatively pokey PCI and USB performance of the Radeon Xpress 200 south bridge.

TrustedReviews

So, going back to my original question, was CrossFire worth the wait? Well in its current guise probably not. In my opinion ATI should have waited for the R520 to appear before launching CrossFire...
 
hehee!
Pazi kada si me za 3 minuta pretekao da postavim isti ovakav post uz komentar da je zaista nesvakidasnja pojava da se komentari svih nas koji smo probali CF maltene potpuno podudaraju.
 
Meni je bilo kakvo resenje koje ukljucuje kupovanje posebne vrste kartice totalno bezveze, a da ne pominjem ovu glupost sa refresh rate-om i rezolucijom...
 
R520 će koristiti novi Silicon Image čip (već postoje oni koji rade na 225 MHz, što omogućava HD rezolucije od 1920 x 1200 pri 85 Hz, što je dovoljno...). ATI jednostavno ne sme da ponovi situaciju da je maksimalna rezolucija u CF modu svega 16x12 na 60 Hz...
 
ajde kupovanje master karte i pomozi Boze, ali ovo sa rezolucijom i OSVEZENJEM vredja inteligenciju end-usera, majke mi...
 
Ja cu ponoviti moju staru tezu o besmislenostii multu GPU resenja uz nastavak Anadovog komentara:

"...As an upgrade path, it makes generally much more sense to buy the next single card solution that comes out instead of spending money on older technology that won't scale as well, takes up a lot of space, eats up a lot of power, and likely incorporates fewer features. The only way we truly say that multi-GPU technology is a better solution than a similarly classed single card solution (even when upgrading from one card to two) is at the absolute highest end where there is no competition from a single card. And right now the king of the mountain is still a 7800 GTX SLI..."

ATI verovatno i ne ocekuje da proda mnogo Crossfire kombinacija. Bitno je da na testovima HW sajtova u onim dijagramima stoji i ATI kolko je moguce blizu nVidie SLI.
 
Bogda... ako kod nas ima ljudi koji imaju SLI, zasto mislis da napolju nema jos vise njih koji jednostavno hoce da se igraju u punoj rezoluciji na HDTV-u koji su kupili ili na 24 inch TFT-u...? Za te rezolucije ti jednostavno treba 7800GT x 2!!!
 
potrazicu neka istrazivanja ali sam ubedjen da je broj ljudi koji su kupili 24" ili hdtv da bi se igrali - infinitezimalan
 
veruj mi, ima ih dosta... pa ljudi na zapadu sad kupuju uglavnom HDTV... u USA i u japanu recimo. igraju se doduse vise na konzolama, a neki povezuju i komp na to, budi siguran, preko sekundarnog konektora!
 
Eto, ispostavilo se ono što sam gore napisao kao tačno... što znači da cela negativna priča o Crossfire-u neće biti aktuelna sa X1800 XT CF edition karticama. Jedini problem može biti dalje odugovlačenje i nedostupnost proizvoda na vreme. Semplovi običnih X1K kartica različitih vendora polako pristižu, ali mi nismo (ni na Ibizi) videli X1800 XT CFE karticu na delu (a imali su čak i X1800 XL All in Wonder AVIVO - lakše je dodati ceo AIW sistem na PCB, nego novi composition engine?). Ova sempl AIW kartica se nalazila u specijalnoj konfiguraciji sa 30 inch cinema displejem (24xx * 16xx), a gledanje 1080p filmova je bilo zaista fenomenalno iskustvo...
 
byMaX je napisao(la):
Ova sempl AIW kartica se nalazila u specijalnoj konfiguraciji sa 30 inch cinema displejem (24xx * 16xx), a gledanje 1080p filmova je bilo zaista fenomenalno iskustvo...
nemoj da pravis zazubice 😀
 
Ma kakvi, mislis da je meni sad lakshe kad sam to video a kod kuce imam ovaj "959NF ambar" (TM by Deki)
 
Meni je malo cudno sto ima tako debelo kuciste. Koje kartice mogu da isteraju tu rezoluciju?
 
byMaX je napisao(la):
Meni je malo cudno sto ima tako debelo kuciste. Koje kartice mogu da isteraju tu rezoluciju?
pa ako sam dobro razumeo trebaju mu 4 DVI ulazna signala. Znaci 6800GT DualDVI u SLI-u bi to trebalo da izgura...
Ali da je jaka rezolucija, jeste... extra!
 
sve sve, ali da li ste primetili karikaturu u prvom postu..?
ja nisam bas pristrasan u ovome, a i ne zanima me..
Imam trenutno fx5900, i kad odlucim da promenim graficku uzecu najbolje sto bude moglo za 200e u datom trenutku, bio to ATI ili NVIDIA

ali sam se nasmejao silno kad sam video karikaturu... dobro nacrtano i sa jasnom porukom...
hahahahahahah
 
illidan je napisao(la):
nemoj da pravis zazubice 😀


Ne, ne. Nisu to zazubice to su zagledice..😀
 
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