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Meni ne deluje bas istinito, ali ako jeste dobicemo jakog konkurenta Linux-u u domenu open-source operativnih sistema 🙂

TO Quote Neowin.Net:

Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.

This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.

We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.

Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.

Inace, kako kazu na jos nekim mestima Miscosoft dize tuzbe protiv svih koji linkuju ili ne daj Boze hostuju paket u kome je sors...
 
http://board.iexbeta.com/ibf10/index.php?s=bdca1cfd09792eb866dc273e63c8c603&showtopic=37601

http://www.neowin.net/
 
Hm, deluje prilicno zbunjujuce, pomesane su reakcije po netu, videcemo gde je istina sto se ovog slucaja tice, mozda je samo zvaka, relano gledano sumnjam da bi iko smeo da nesto uradi sa tim kodom i da objavi...
 
Zamislite da je tacno, a postoje velike sanse da jeste, sta bi sve hakeri mogli da naprave sa time. Pa, jedva ce docekati...
 
Ma nemojte da ste naivni. Ne kazem da nije "procureo" ali da li mislite da bi neko smeo da prepise u linux? MS bi odmah digao tuzbu i za copiright za kradju i za sve.
 
Adrian je napisao(la):
Ma nemojte da ste naivni. Ne kazem da nije "procureo" ali da li mislite da bi neko smeo da prepise u linux? MS bi odmah digao tuzbu i za copiright za kradju i za sve.

Da prepise u linux ? 😀 😀 😀 😀
E bas si me dobro nasmejao , ziveli cheers
 
delimir je napisao(la):
Zamislite da je tacno, a postoje velike sanse da jeste, sta bi sve hakeri mogli da naprave sa time. Pa, jedva ce docekati...

Verujem da cemo jako brzo osetiti da li je sors kod procureo....mada djavo ce ga znati - kratkorocno je to katastrofa jer nas ocekuje invazija trojanaca, crva i virusa; na duge staze je dobro jer ce biti otkrivene i potamanjene mnoge rupe i bugovi.
 
Hm, stvarno, u Linux ??? :beat: :beat: Pored silnih prepisivanja M$ IZ Linux-a, ne vidim sta bi ko jos mogao od M$ da prepise...
 
Hm, nekako se podudara ovo 'curenje' koda sa priznavanjem i hitnim objavljivanjem patcha za ovu poslednju rupetinu u windowsu - za koju su znali mesecima. Neki virus dobro 'prilagodjen originalnom kodu' bi bio devastating po ugled kompanije, zar ne? Mozda je koincidencija 🙂
 
pTomic je napisao(la):
Hm, stvarno, u Linux ??? :beat: :beat: Pored silnih prepisivanja M$ IZ Linux-a, ne vidim sta bi ko jos mogao od M$ da prepise...

pa na primer, pomocu sourcea WIn2000 bi mogla da se izvede potpuna emulacija Win32PE programa bez potrebe za Winetom i windowsovim DLL-ovima. Medjutim, problema ne bi bilo kad se source linux kernela ne bi delio shakom&kapom... ali nadam se da nisu toliki retardi da prepisuju sa copy-paste... svako ko je imao programiranje u srednjoj ili na fakultetu zna da se jedan isti program mozhe napisati (chitaj: prepisati) u bar dva "razlichita"... :mrgreen:
 
Voodoo, je l' moram opet ja da pricam? 🙂

- emulacija se ne bi ugradjivala u linux kernel, jer - pazi tragedije - velika vecina user space programa nemaj sta da cacka po kernelu, nego koristi svoje biblioteke u vidu dll/so fajlova
- source windowsa je radila armija programera i radi se o milionima linija koda - je l' bi ti to caskom "u bar dva 'razlicita'..."?
- za takav source treba vreme i vreme i opet vreme za analizu; dok manja grupica to prouci, imacemo longhorn odavno svi na masinama. Do tada mogu eventualno manji podsistemi da se provale i eventualno na osnovu tog (re)inzenjeringa da se nesto uradi. I tada bi od takve analize koda imale vise koristi firme kao sto su Borland ili Oracle, na primer, a ne linux zajednica.
 
silverglider je napisao(la):
Voodoo, je l' moram opet ja da pricam? 🙂

- emulacija se ne bi ugradjivala u linux kernel, jer - pazi tragedije - velika vecina user space programa nemaj sta da cacka po kernelu, nego koristi svoje biblioteke u vidu dll/so fajlova
- source windowsa je radila armija programera i radi se o milionima linija koda - je l' bi ti to caskom "u bar dva 'razlicita'..."?
- za takav source treba vreme i vreme i opet vreme za analizu; dok manja grupica to prouci, imacemo longhorn odavno svi na masinama. Do tada mogu eventualno manji podsistemi da se provale i eventualno na osnovu tog (re)inzenjeringa da se nesto uradi. I tada bi od takve analize koda imale vise koristi firme kao sto su Borland ili Oracle, na primer, a ne linux zajednica.

- pa svejedno, vazhno je da se vozi DX-Ball na linuxu :mrgreen:
- znam da postoje milioni linija, ali valjda imaju i neki komentari tu, nisu ga valjda radili studenti? :mrgreen:
 
Sad sam video na BBC-u, procurelo je nekih 15% koda, otprilike 600MB sourceta, skriptova i alata. Medjutim, najbolji je deo komentara koji se odnosi na nabrajanje zasto je to sramota po Microsoft:

Fourthly, for Microsoft to have this code paraded in public is hugely embarrassing. Not least because the code is littered with profanity and might show that many Microsoft programmers do not do a very good job.

In the past independent programmers that have deconstructed other Microsoft applications have been shocked at what they found within the code. Rivals and critics will be able to see exactly how Microsoft staff do their work.

:d
 
😀

Stvarno im nije lako 😀
 
Jel` vam se ne cini da je i 15% dosta za sr*nja koja nas ocekuju u narednim mesecima, kako rekose delimir i salac.
 
Zavisi kojih 15% su ukebali - a to nece da kazu.
 
silverglider je napisao(la):
Zavisi kojih 15% su ukebali - a to nece da kazu.

Evo ima na Overnet-u i na BitTorrent-u windows 2000 source.zip (746MB) - sada sam uzeo da ga skidam... mada je najverovatnije fake, ali ništa ne košta da probam... :mrgreen:
 
Mislio sam da je sve moguce, ali ovo... E, pa ovo je malo previse... Odo' da paranoisem malo (D)
 
@zeleni zub
Nije fake, pokupio si bolju varijantu, posto su 2 sourcea procurela... 1 od preko 200mb i bolja(kompletnija) varijanta od preko 600...
Neki tip mi je pricao da kod veoma neobican(It does not read as an Agent)😉, mada nije ni cudo obzirom da ga je radilo zilon ljudi...
 
Zvanicno saopstenje iz Microsoft-a
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/Feb04/02-12windowssource.asp

Kazu iz M$-a da je sve bezbedno (mada ni do sada nije bilo :d )...

Security experts say Microsoft's embarrassing Windows 2000 source code leak is unlikely to have given hackers more ammunition

Security experts say that Windows users are unlikely to face any increased security risks as a result of a leak of Windows 2000 source code discovered on Thursday, mainly because it is a simple matter for hackers to find Windows vulnerabilities without recourse to the code.

On Thursday, a 203MB file containing some of Microsoft's closely guarded source code was published on the Internet, representing around 1 percent of the code base of Windows 2000, the enterprise operating system on which Windows XP is based.

David Emm, marketing manager at McAfee Avert, the antivirus company's research arm, told ZDNet UK that source code isn't necessary to plan an attack. "This has been amply demonstrated over the last few years," he said. "It is a bit like somebody wanting to break into my house -- they don't necessarily need the floorplans to in order to see that there is an open window or a drain pipe to climb."

Maikel Albrecht, product manager at Finnish security company F-Secure, reinforced the point. "We have seen previously that there are a lot of known security holes -- for example in the RPC interface, and that was probably found without the source code," he said.

He acknowledged there is a chance that the leaked code could contain an important part of Windows 2000, which could help attackers to understand the system. "If it is a critical component in the system it could be very dangerous and very useful for a hacker but it could be another part and be totally useless," he said. However, the question is mainly hypothetical, he said. "Theoretically, users are more at risk, but I don't think the change is significant," he said.

Access to source code does not necessarily pose a security threat. The open-source development model is based on this premise: anyone can examine the source code, and holes are patched as soon as they are spotted, whether by someone working on the project or by a member of the public.

Emm noted that access to source code should not pose a security threat to well-written software. "To exploit a vulnerability, there has to be a vulnerability," he said. "If the code is written sufficiently robustly in the first place then clearly you are going to minimise any risk."

The real security issue is not how attackers will make use of the Windows code, but in how the code made its way onto the Internet, said Ovum analyst Graham Titterington. "In reality, a partial leak of source code is not of much use to anybody," he said. "The security problem is in how the leak happened."

ZDNet
 
😕 Meni nešto nije jasno: Kažu da je 200MB (spakovano) source-a 1%, znači ceo Windows 2000 ima oko 20GB koda???? Kada se raspakuje to je baš dosta. :?:
 
silverglider je napisao(la):
Sad sam video na BBC-u, procurelo je nekih 15% koda, otprilike 600MB sourceta, skriptova i alata. Medjutim, najbolji je deo komentara koji se odnosi na nabrajanje zasto je to sramota po Microsoft:

Fourthly, for Microsoft to have this code paraded in public is hugely embarrassing. Not least because the code is littered with profanity and might show that many Microsoft programmers do not do a very good job.

In the past independent programmers that have deconstructed other Microsoft applications have been shocked at what they found within the code. Rivals and critics will be able to see exactly how Microsoft staff do their work.


:d

To i ja videh veceras isto na BBC, nisam mogao da verujem. 😀 :d

Billy ce imati teske snove.. ouch 😛
 
][V][ATRIX™ je napisao(la):
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To i ja videh veceras isto na BBC, nisam mogao da verujem. 😀 :d

Billy ce imati teske snove.. ouch 😛

Da i ja bih se, kao najbogatiji covek na Svetu, ziv pojeo od muke :mrgreen:
 
Wakizashi je napisao(la):
@zeleni zub
Nije fake, pokupio si bolju varijantu, posto su 2 sourcea procurela... 1 od preko 200mb i bolja(kompletnija) varijanta od preko 600...


Jeste fake je (ona od 700MB). Danas, kada se vratim sa posla ću da skinem onu od 200.
 
Vi zaista ne vidite kakva je ovde igra u pitanju? Zaista verujete da je ovo "slucajnost". Oh Boze....
 
mozda je procureo kod painta ili notepada? 😉
 
Marti Misterija je napisao(la):
Vi zaista ne vidite kakva je ovde igra u pitanju? Zaista verujete da je ovo "slucajnost". Oh Boze....

Jok, ja verujem da je to kominternovsko-cionisticko-rozenkrojcersko-krupnokapitalisticka zavera 😀
Ako neko skine kod molim da mi se javi mailom - umirem od zelje da vidim kakav je stil programera iz MS-a
😉
 
Skinuo onaj od 200mb i nije fake...josh kad bi neshto znao o programiranju 🙂
 
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