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Igranje zabranjeno u Grckoj !!!

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SVE !!! Na pc-ju, Sony-ju, pa cak i na mobilnim telefonima !!!:whip Neverovatno. Izasao zakon o zabrani igranja !!! Ako vas interesuje vise idite na www.exxtreme3d.co.yu, sad sam bio tamo i video, tamo ima i detaljniji link...
Katastrofa !!!:(
 
Brutalan Zlica je napisao(la):
SVE !!! Na pc-ju, Sony-ju, pa cak i na mobilnim telefonima !!!:whip Neverovatno. Izasao zakon o zabrani igranja !!! Ako vas interesuje vise idite na www.exxtreme3d.co.yu, sad sam bio tamo i video, tamo ima i detaljniji link...
Katastrofa !!!:(


Ma sta me briga za Grcku.A uostalom neko ce kao da zna da li ti igras igrice ili................:p
 
ovo je staro nekih nedelju dana...

postavlja se pitanje, ako je ta vest uopste tacna, sta se dogodi kada poneses game boy na letovanje i igras na plazi?
 
Valjda dobijes proterivanje i zabranu ulaska u zemlu ;)

Najnovije: Google je zabranjen u Kini :D
 
Kakava glupa vest ne mogu da verujem, to isto ono ko pre 3.5 godine kad smo oborili 500 aviona...
 
najnovija vest!

Bench forum zabranjen u Srbiji!!!! :D
 
Alexandar je napisao(la):
Najnovije: Google je zabranjen u Kini :D
Ma ja bi zabranio Kinu !

BTW, u vezi Grcke, procitao sam sve linkove i peticije i pravne radnje koje se preduzimaju itd itd, ali i dalje ne razumem osnovno, a to je: ZASTO ??? Tj. koji je bio motiv zakonodavca ??? Prava Zona Sumraka :(
 
A ja taman mislio sledece godine da idem u Grcku kad ono...:)
 
Uopste ne kapiram zasto zabranjuju igre.Ili u Kini google.Bas bi voleo da vidim tog lika koji je zabranio google.Da li je moguce da se to radi bez nekog objasnjenja!!??A najvise me interesuje kako ce neko da zna dal sam ja na google-u(na pr.).Sve u svemu teska glupost!
 
Pa nece niko da zna jer neces ni moci da mu pristupis sa njihovoh provajdera :)
 
Brutalan Zlica je napisao(la):
SVE !!! Na pc-ju, Sony-ju, pa cak i na mobilnim telefonima !!!:whip Neverovatno. Izasao zakon o zabrani igranja !!! Ako vas interesuje vise idite na www.exxtreme3d.co.yu, sad sam bio tamo i video, tamo ima i detaljniji link...
Katastrofa !!!:(

Kakva laz, sada sam se vratio iz grcke, i bas sam bio u igraonici u solunu pre nego sto sam krenuo, i mogu reci/napisati da sam se bas lepo izigrao.
Taj koji je to prosuo ne da lupeta.
Znaci igraonica je u glavnoj ulici u solunu, i radi 0-24, ima reklamu od 2x5m, i ne mozes je promasiti, znaci nije neka supa, nego P3@1000MHz i 19" monitori, zove se e-global.

Koje sve gluposti ne mozes da procitas na ovom netu???
 
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laxduke je napisao(la):
Kakva laz, sada sam se vratio iz grcke, i bas sam bio u igraonici u solunu pre nego sto sam krenuo, i mogu reci/napisati da sam se bas lepo izigrao.
Taj koji je to prosuo ne da lupeta.
Znaci igraonica je u glavnoj ulici u solunu, i radi 0-24, ima reklamu od 2x5m, i ne mozes je promasiti, znaci nije neka supa, nego P3@1000MHz i 19" monitori, zove se e-global.

Koje sve gluposti ne mozes da procitas na ovom netu???


Pa moguce, ali pre neki dan su doneli zakon...naravno, primena ce da potraje, ali tvoje igranje na glavnim ulicama Soluna :) ne menja poentu - neka budala je zabranila zakonom igre...
 
Re: Re: Re: Igranje zabranjeno u Grckoj !!!

Brutalan Zlica je napisao(la):
Pa moguce, ali pre neki dan su doneli zakon...naravno, primena ce da potraje, ali tvoje igranje na glavnim ulicama Soluna :) ne menja poentu - neka budala je zabranila zakonom igre...

To sa primenom zakona nemoj da poredis sa nama.
Tamo kada se za nesto donese zakon, primena je ODMAH.
Ljudi se obaveste o zakonu do 1 mesec ranije, ali kada je primena stupila na snagu, nema vise "nisam znao, nisam cuo, nisam obavesten".

Inace cela prica je smesna, posto je cela grcka u kafeima, igraonicama i salonima zabave, a poker masina da ne pominjem.
Lici na vest za prikupljanje paznje.
 
Mnogo stvari me nerviraju, a jedna od tih je i senzacionalno prenosenje vesti, bez ikakve samokriticnosti. Pa samo malo da se razmisli, vidi se da je vest besmislica, da je sve prenaduvano, Ali ono sto me najvise nervira je to sto svemu tome pridajemo veliki znacaj. Pa koliko puta smo na TV-u culi senzacionalne vesti tipa neki covek dobio milijarde dolara na lutriji (spiker lose procitao x,000,000, mi dugujemo par biliona dolara (sve zbog loseg prevoda billions), te ova kometa ce da udari, te 50% ljudi u nekim africkim zemljama su sidasi (verovatno se sida dosta prosirila, ali namerno se napumpavaju ove cifre da bi se ljudi zabrinuli zbog problema, mada to postize suprotni efekat - otupelosti i ravnodusnosti), te 70% mladih se drogira, te ovo te ono.

Mene licno zabole briga za igranje u Grckoj, cak i da je istina, a nije. Prava vest je da je vlada zbog nemogucnosti stajanja na put kockarskim aparatima i njihovim razlikovanjem od arkadnih automata zabranila iste. Nema tu ni pomeni od zabrane kucnog PC igranja - pa ko to moze da zabrani, sve i da postoji zakon.
 
stvar uopshte nije prenaduvana

video igre jesu zabranjene u grchkoj

svi veci sajtovi du pisali o tome

Law Number 3037, enacted at the end of July, explicitly forbids electronic games with 'electronic mechanisms and software' from public and private places, and people have already been fined tens of thousands of euros for playing or owning games

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2121692,00.html
 
Pa dobro ljudi, ja sam samo preneo, a vi ako ne verujete ili mislite da lazem idite na sajtove ciji su linkovi bili dati pa proverite, a posebno ako vas ne interesuje zaobidjite tred.
Covek vise ne moze da prenese ni jednu najobicniju informaciju koju smatra interesantnom FX
To je verovatno prva "civilizovana" zemlja gde je igranje zabranjeno zakonom i stoga sam smatrao da je dovoljno interesantno da moze da se prenese ovde. Opet ponavljam, ako vas kako kazete "zabole", zaobidjite tred
Pozdrav
 
Kao sto rece covek, ali hajde da dopunim, pisale su i sve vece Grcke novine.

Dakle ljudi po kaficima, raznim salonima zabave salonima itd, a Grci su kao i mi, su modifikovali i to daljinski klasicne arkadne automate u kockarske masine (pokeri i slicne gluposti). Kada dodje neka inspekcija, oni pritiskom na dugme to vrate u predjasnje stanje, to jest igra ponovo bude ono sto jeste.

Kao sto postoje razni mud chipovi za PSX, Biosi za DVD Playere i slicne stvri, tako u inostranstvu postoje gomile nacina da se napravi neka prevara. Eto, izmedju ostalog i satelitske kartice, nismo to mi izmislili.

I posto je to u Grckoj preslo, u po njima, zabrinjavajucu razmeru, onda je vlada donela tu odluku o zabrani SVIH arkadnih masina, kao i instaliranje i koriscenje istih i u privatnom vlasnistvu. Cak su zabranili i igranje u internet kafeima. Ali to se ne odnosi na posedovanje PC kompjutera i konzola.


Na kraju, neki grk je preveo zakon na engleski jezik, a njihov, valjda poznati sajt o video igrama koji je prvi digao frku povodom tog zakona je http://www.gameland.gr


LAW NUMBER 3037 - 30 July 2002

GAMING PROHIBITION

The President of Greek Republic
We issue the following law which was voted by the Greek Parliament

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Article 1
Game categories
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According to notion of the commands of the current law:
a. Mechanical games are those, that depend on one's muscle force.
b. Electrical games are those, that depend on electrical mechanisms.
c. Electromechanical games are those that depend on electrical mechanisms and the use of one's muscle force.
d. Electronic games are those, that depend on both electrical-electronic mechanisms and software.
e. Entertainment technical games are those, whose result depends exclusively on the ability and skill of the
player, and are used solely for entertainment.

The category (e) also includes all card games which had been characterised as
"technical" games, according to the statement of law F.E.K A21.


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Article 2
Game prohibition
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1. Operation and installation of any game of type (b), (c) and (d) of Article 1, including computer games,
placed in public places such as hotels, cafeterias, organization halls and in any other public or private
place, is prohibited.
2. Operation of games of type (e) is allowed in devices of type (a). Regarding these games, it is prohibited to place bets.
Such bets will attract penalties described in Articles 4 and 5.


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Article 3
Internet cafes
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The prohibition of using computers described in Article 2 does not affect internet cafes, as long as the computers
are not used for any gaming activities.

To be able to run an Internet cafe, a special permit is required from the municipal or the state where the
company is based) and from its starting point (port) if it is a boat based company. According to the first
application of this measure, the company should be equipped with this permit in three months
from the issue date of this law.


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Article 4
Criminal sanctions
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1. Any persons who manage or depend on centres or other places as described in paragraph 1 of Article 2
where games prohibited by the previous Articles are in use or even exist, will be penalised with at least
three months of jail plus a fine of at least 5,000 Euros. If this offense is repeated, the penalty will be at least
one year of jail plus a fine between 25,000 and 75,000 Euros. The court will also command the confiscation
of all those games.
2. The orders for the games of type "c", in paragraph 1, paragraph 3 and 4 of Article 7 of the coded command
29/1971 are followed accordingly.


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Article 5
Administrative sanctions
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1. Apart from the criminal sanctions, if it is found that a prohibited game, according to the commands of the previous
articles, there will be a fine of 10,000 Euros for every such game and permanent taking away of the business
license, according to the orders of Article 7.
2. The fine will be based on the decision of the corresponding authority, in paragraph 1 of Article 6, who had
found the violation. In this decision the violation will be described, the fine will be underlined, as well as the
order in use. Together with this decision, a copy of the violation report will be notified towards the violator.


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Article 6
Report of confirmation of violations
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1. The police authorities are responsible to enforce this law. The port authorities are responsible for boats
traveling domestically, and for any other boats staying at the corresponding port.
2. If the authorities for the "body for fighting financial crime" find violations of the law for the games, they
will impose the sanctions and will proceed to actions described in the previous article.


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Article 7
Authorization
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1. The terms, conditions, procedures and permits for Internet companies are determined by the common decision
of the Ministry of Finance, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Public Administration, Ministry of Public Order
and Ministry of Trading.
2. A similar decision establishes the authority which enforces the taking away of business licenses, the
procedure of taking it away as well as any other necessary details for applying the orders of this law.


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Article 8
Tax returns
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Whoever has already paid " tax for running businesses with entertainment technical games" for 2002 for
electronical, electrical or electromechanical games, will have their tax returned corresponding to the time
of the publication of the law in the Government's Paper until the end of the year. No returns will be made
in the case of violation of the law for games and there is no awaiting court case in front of the Committee
in paragraph 4 of article 15 of law 2753/1999 (FEK 249 A').


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Article 9
Maintained and transitive orders
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1. With the orders of this law, there are no complications with the orders of the law 2206/1994 (FEK 62 A')
as well as the rest of the orders regarding casinos.
2. From the start of the enforcement of this law, the three-member game committees which are established by
the orders in paragraph 4 of article 15 of law 2753/1999, cease to exist. They will still exist though, until the
finish of check up of the game machines that had been binded by the auditor authorities and for which there
had been a reserve.


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Articles 10, 11, and 12 describe the changes in the laws only for card games and are not relative with the
game machine orders.
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ATHENS 29th of July 2002


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