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Isto nece rudarenje na 50BTC od 19h ??? Anyone ??

ah taj 50btc ....
mucicka a stvarno jedini pool na svetu a mozda cak i u univerzumu , pa nista sedite, cekajte , nadajte se da ce nekad da proradi kako treba, mi ostali radimo koa satici tik..tak..tik..tak..:d
 
Da li moze neko da da bar dobar neki pool (osim 50btc) i da li na primer 0.03 btc-a mogu da se prebace na mtgox ili mora tek od 0.1?
 
ja rudarim na btcguild-u već duže vreme i nikada nisam imao problema da pukne server i da zezaju sa isplatom, jedino što je fee 5%
 
Nista od trgovine danas, cekam ko ker da cene padnu :p

Inace samo da izjavim MSI 7950 je po kvalitetu same karte u odnosu na GTX660 (MSI takodje) kriminal, takodje sam GPU je nategnut do daske, sad sam sam sebi dokazao da AMD partnerima dozvoljava bezobrazluk.....
 
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Kako nista, sad se prodaje.
Pa kad padne cena sa tim parama kupis, ostane razlika. :)
 
Nece padati. Ceo dan pokusavaju da obore cenu i nema sanse. Sa 73 je palo na 68 i tu je kupljeno ko zna koliko coina ali cena nije otisla ispod toga. Ici ce gore sutra preko dana, potpisujem. Opet je potraznja veca od ponude. Nemaju vise od koga jefino da kupe coine. Ja sam danas prodao za 70 cekajuci da padne cena na 60 ali kad sam video da od toga nema nista kupio sam za 69 i ostvario profit od 1e :d
Bitno je da imam u coinima kad skoci opet da ne gubim lovu.
 
Nemozes predvideti nista sigurno, veliki igraci ne biduju cenom pa da im vidis ponude vec jednostavno bombardujui ujudno guse server sa sitnim bidovima...ovi sto sa 100-200 novcica cekaju dobru cenu nisu to manipulatori e jednostavno igraju na sigurno
 
mislim da je 7% za nove workere, ma ko ga šiša, bitno da rade serveri non stop :) sad ću da probam PPLNS pa da vidim kako to ide, nekako sam najsigurniji na serveru koji radi non stop, a ne da mi puca server par puta na dan.
Malo sam se igrao sa mojim safirkama. Glavna koja ima asic 57,8% mi ide do 1100 na diff naponu (gpuz ga očitava kao 1.047v) dok druga karta ima asic 67,4% i radi na 1130MHz na diff naponu (gpuz ga očitava kao 1.045) i temperature su zadovoljavajuće :) Sa ventom na 55% i sobnom temperaturom oko 25*C temperature su 66-68*C za donju i 68-70% za gornju i bacaju zajedno ~1150mhash
 
zeljko, niko se nije obavio na dnevnoj trgovini. tj. oni koji tako i zarade, vrlo brzo taj profit i potrose na kupovinu akcija/novčića po višim cenama. ;)

dovoljan je jedan napad na gore (na 100 $) da se to i tebi desi.
 
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Nece padati. Ceo dan pokusavaju da obore cenu i nema sanse. Sa 73 je palo na 68 i tu je kupljeno ko zna koliko coina ali cena nije otisla ispod toga. Ici ce gore sutra preko dana, potpisujem. Opet je potraznja veca od ponude. Nemaju vise od koga jefino da kupe coine. Ja sam danas prodao za 70 cekajuci da padne cena na 60 ali kad sam video da od toga nema nista kupio sam za 69 i ostvario profit od 1e :d
Bitno je da imam u coinima kad skoci opet da ne gubim lovu.

Koliko menjačnica uzima za te transakcije? Jel to ovo što piše od 0,6 - 0,55 % ?
 
Pa racunica je prosta sa svakim novim dif treba dokupiti jednu 7950 i amortizovati dif i malko pojacati
 
zeljko, niko se nije obavio na dnevnoj trgovini. tj. oni koji tako i zarade, vrlo brzo taj profit i potrose na kupovinu akcija/novčića po višim cenama. ;)

mozda ali meni je cilj da povecam $ a ne broj novcica :)
Jednostavno cekam da se trziste smiri ili da cena pukne kad kupujem, e sad nemogu uvek da imam novcice kad cena ide gore ali necu ih kupovat da se cena ne stabilizuje na bilo kom novou
 
Da, ali dokle, ok je ako imaš 4 kartice, pa kupiš jednu, to ti je 25% povećanje, ali šta ako imaš 8 kartica u 2 mašine, i diff skoči 15%, a ti moraš da pazariš komplet novu mašinu zbog jedne kartice? Ja planiram da idem do 4 kartice, samo da mi ove 2 donesu neku kintu, pošto sam sve što sam imao uložio u njih, pa onda da pazarim još jednu ili da pozajmim pa uzmem odma 2, videću šta kako, samo da krenu neke isplate :) još sam na ~1.6btc tako da nemam neku veliku kintu na nalogu
 
mozda ali meni je cilj da povecam $ a ne broj novcica :)
Jednostavno cekam da se trziste smiri ili da cena pukne kad kupujem, e sad nemogu uvek da imam novcice kad cena ide gore ali necu ih kupovat da se cena ne stabilizuje na bilo kom novou

pa stabilizovat ce se uskoro na 100, i nece dugo silaziti ispod.
 
Veliki igraci ceo dan kupuju novcice ;) Hiljade novcica su nestajale za minut dana, ne pricam ja o ovima za po 100. Bilo je i danas spustanje cena i sl ali dzaba kad nema vise novcica na berzi. Oteli su sta su mogli, vise nemaju kome da otimaju za 40e. Dok ne naprave novu paniku nista nece da urade. I sada je potraznja duplo veca od ponude ali se stekaju svi, nisu ludi da placaju skuplje pa se natezu s cenom. Pazi dobro sta sam ti rekao, kad veceras nisu uspeli da skinu cenu na 60 sutra ce ici gore pa ce prodavati ovo sto su danas kupili. Samo tako ce obrtati brzu lovu.
 
Neznam meni je bitstamp pregledniji, gledam i mtgox berzu i znam da veliki ulagaci tu ulecu, inace oni kad kupe veci broj novcica mogu i da vise muljaju
 
ja kupujem ltc upravo sad. sad ce on fino da skoci. a ako btc padne, to ce biti mega-skok. :)

gledam mtgox, pojacava se pritisak na dole, tako da zeljko, mozda ti se i ostvari zelja.
 
http://www.blogtips.com/2013/04/is-mtgoxs-founder-hoping-bitcoin-fails.html
MtGox.com is the largest Bitcoin exchange on the Internet handling roughly 80% of all trades. The recent wild fluctuations in the price of the decentralized currency have been blamed in part on Mt Gox's market dominance and technological inadequacies.

Max Keiser, a virtual currency pioneer and Bitcoin supporter, explains in the video below that Mt. Gox is running on old inadequate software and is "missing the vital market making function."

Clearly the exchange mechanism of digital currencies needs to be fixed to provide proper price discovery and prevent manipulation. But this much needed upgrade may not come from Mt. Gox, as its founder, Jed McCaleb, appears to be betting against the success of Bitcoin.


A recent article on Bloomberg revealed that McCaleb is throwing his weight behind a new centrally-controlled digital currency called Ripple. McCaleb and Ripple co-founder Chris Larsen claim "Bitcoin’s volatility underscores the need for Ripple."

The article, which read as much like a hit piece against Bitcoin as it did a sponsored post for Ripple, pointed out that part of the problem with the volatile price of Bitcoin is Mt.Gox's inability to handle the volume of trades.

"One reason the value of Bitcoins fell by $100 yesterday, according to reports, is that its largest marketplace, Mt.Gox, was under a denial-of-service attack and couldn’t satisfy orders fast enough."

Ripple, Larsen says, is not susceptible to such fluctuations because it "doesn’t require such centralized servers; it is completely decentralized."

While it is true that Mt. Gox's market dominance for exchanging bitcoins presents obvious challenges to the decentralized currency, this statement appears to be opposite of reality.

Ripple (XRP) is centrally issued and maintained, while the issuance of bitcoins (mining) is a decentralized process. Bitcoin is traded on multiple exchanges where buyers and sellers settle on the value, while the value of Ripple is partially managed by arbitrary release of them into the market so it can be better "controlled".

In what way is that "completely decentralized"?

Ripple's website says it's decentralized because "a distributed collection of servers around the globe runs Ripple", but on a "unified system". Well, a collection of distributed servers runs Google, too, but that doesn't mean it's a decentralized company.

Significantly, Ripples differ from Bitcoins in that they are created out of thin air and given away or sold into existence by Ripple instead of mined by tens of thousands of individual computers like bitcoins are.

Only 100 billion Ripples will be created, where 50 billion will be given away or sold into existence while the other 50 billion will be held onto by the managers.

"Starting today, OpenCoin will begin to seed a broader market by putting 100 billion Ripples in circulation: It will gradually distribute 50 billion to users who sign up on the site; it will hold the other 50 billion. (The company hopes its Ripple reserves will appreciate.)," Stone writes.

In other words, the founders are looking to get rich by withholding half of the supply while they work to drive prices up, which makes one wonder if McCaleb at Mt. Gox has a vested interest in seeing Bitcoin fail and Ripple succeed.

It currently takes about 1000 XRP to buy $1 on the second largest Bitcoin exchange, BitStamp.com. Although Ripples "trade" on this independent exchange, the founders hope to provide a one-stop shop for transactions and exchanges.

Brad Stone writes "On its website, people will be able to register for a Ripple account, monitor their balances, and send and receive payments. They can also exchange their Ripples for other currencies, including dollars and—yep—Bitcoin."

Ripple encourages users to stay in-house by stating "Ripple avoids the costs, delays, and inconveniences of system-hopping by keeping everything within Ripple." In this respect they can more easily control the value of XRPs as well. But it's decentralized?

Decentralization of crypto currencies is a huge aspect of why people support them. This doesn't mean the decentralization of servers that run the cryptography for transactions, although that's important as well. The decentralization that's valuable to users is the fact that no central authority can manipulate the supply and value of said currency. In that respect, Ripple appears very centralized.


Yes, crypto-currency exchanges face challenges in providing platforms that offer sound and transparent price discovery relative to central bank currencies. But trying to solve that by tightly controlling its value relative to dollars, for instance, for the sake of easier transactions for merchants takes away all of the independence sought by crypto-currency enthusiasts.

Interestingly, nowhere in the Bloomberg article or on Ripple's website does it explain how the value of XRPs are determined. It just says it will be less susceptible to volatile fluctuations because it is decentralized. Well, now that that's clearly false, we can only speculate.

Finally, the ripple (pardon the pun) this creates between Mt. Gox founder and the future stability of Bitcoin values cannot be ignored. Why would McCaleb invest in improving his Bitcoin trading mechanism when it must fail in order for his other venture to succeed?

I leave you with a short video by Adam Kokesh, a libertarian commentator, who more thoroughly examines the Bloomberg's sponsored post about Ripple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=64G3n5sgZCY

Ja sam boldovao bitne delove.
Pročitati sve pažljivo, i doneti mudre odluke.
 
bio sam u pravu za 1min ode na 87$ i jos pada, neznam samo kad da kupim :)
 
Da li koristis cgminer za kopanje ili neki drugi program i kako si ga podesio ?
 
Meni npr sa diablominerom ne radi bitparking iz nekog razloga, u mineru kopa ali na bitparkingu nema shareova. Tako da tamo moram sa guiminerom ***.
 
Najpre procitate sta je potrebno da se koristi na samom Bitparkingu :
2013-02-14: The pool now has Stratum protocol support. Stratum is a more efficient protocol than the current getwork and longpoller system. Newer mining programs such as cgminer support Stratum in their recent releases. Your miner should automatically switch to Stratum if it supports it or you can point it to stratum+tcp://mmpool.bitparking.com:3333 to connect directly. This should result in fewer stales and less bandwidth usage. The difficulty for mining on Stratum defaults to 8 but can be changed as below.
 
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