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Gigabyte (i sve ostale) 4850 - prvi utisci

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3Dmark06 SM2 i SM3 skorovi (CPU me ne zanima) u 1280x1024 bez AA i AF
3Dmark06 SM2 i SM3 skorovi (CPU me ne zanima) u 1280x1024 sa 4xAA i 4xAF

Crysis u 1280x1024 high (DX9) bez AA i AF
Crysis u 1280x1024 high (DX9) sa 4xAA i 4xAF

3Dmark05 1024x768, zatim 1280x1024 i 1680x1050 bez AA i AF (ovde bas znaci CPU)

Samo to, nista vise.

a zasto te toliko interesuje skor u 3D Marku?! ali ozbiljno te pitam? :trust: sta ako je on napisan tako da jaci CPU (cak i za dlaku) debelo efektuje SM2 i SM3 testove? sta ces time dokazati? da je karta CPU bound u 3D Marku?

@Yoti:
hvala druze...da isteramo to na cistac jednom za svagda. ja mislim da ne bi trebalo da bude vece razlike...
 
Poslednja izmena:
OK veceras ces imati rezove :)
:wave:

Svaka čast na želji za testiranjem i menjanjem proceva ;)

Ako smem da pitam šta radiš sa toliko proceva? :) Ti si bogami promenuo brdo hardvera otkad smo se last time videli (doduše stvarno je davno bilo) :wave:
 
a zasto te toliko interesuje skor u 3D Marku?! ali ozbiljno te pitam? :trust: sta ako je on napisan tako da jaci CPU (cak i za dlaku) debelo efektuje SM2 i SM3 testove? sta ces time dokazati? da je karta CPU bound u 3D Marku?

@Yoti:
hvala druze...da isteramo to na cistac jednom za svagda. ja mislim da ne bi trebalo da bude vece razlike...

Stvarno ne razumem rezon da CPU nije bitan. Prvo "drzimo" 7900GT/GTO u masinama sa 2,8Ghz Athlonima 64, onda poprodajemo to i kupimo 2x brze grafike zvane 8800GT i 20% brze procesore zvane 2180 @3,2Ghz i ocekujemo da sve radi 2x brze, a onda uzmemo 4850 i ocekujemo opet 50% ili sta vec, na istom procesoru. ne moze to bas tako.

da stvarno nema razlike...
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3344&p=15
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e7200_6.html#sect0
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/modules.php?name=BenchmarkNews&file=article&sid=15568&oliver=5293
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/modules.php?name=BenchmarkNews&file=article&sid=15568&oliver=5294
bas 3Dmark05 "vidi" razliku.
Vec 3 godine smo "zaglavljeni" u rasponu 2,8Ghz AMD i 3,8Ghz C2D. Kolika je to razlike 50-60% i to za 3 godine, bas neki napredak. Ako se ja pitam "tapkamo" u mestu, a od 2 ili 4 jezgra nema velike koristi, bar ne u sadasnjim igrama.
 
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ja tebe stvarno ne razumem prijatelju? :)
Stvarno ne razumem rezon da CPU nije bitan
nisam rekao da nije bitan, ali svakako nije bitan onako kako ti to zamisljas.
Prvo "drzimo" 7900GT/GTO u masinama sa 2,8Ghz Athlonima 64, onda poprodajemo to i kupimo 2x brze grafike zvane 8800GT i 20% brze procesore zvane 2180 @3,2Ghz i ocekujemo da sve radi 2x brze, a onda uzmemo 4850 i ocekujemo opet 50% ili sta vec, na istom procesoru.
wow, svaka ti cast, vidim da bolje znas sta sam imao od mene samog :D samo sam imao [email protected].
ne moze to bas tako.
ja mislim da moze a ti mi dokazi suprotno. [email protected] je kupljen da izdrzi i graficku posle 8800GT bez zagusenja i to ce i biti tako sa 4870. jednostavno sam procenio da ce mi platforma izdrzati 2 upgrade-a grafickih bez zagusenja i to ce se pokazati kao tacno. a dok ja iscedim 4870 nadam se da ce igre konacno videti koristi od kvadova...

na brzinu sam pregledao ove linkove koje si okacio. mogu ti reci da nisi nista dokazao, a ako hoces da ti argunemtujem mogu jedan po jedan, samo reci :)
bas 3Dmark05 "vidi" razliku.
koga briga za Mark 05? :wall:
Vec 3 godine smo "zaglavljeni" u rasponu 2,8Ghz AMD i 3,8Ghz C2D. Kolika je to razlike 50-60% i to za 3 godine, bas neki napredak. Ako se ja pitam "tapkamo" u mestu, a od 2 ili 4 jezgra nema velike koristi, bar ne u sadasnjim igrama.
jesi li ovo pokusao da budes sarkastican ili ne? ne kapiram?
:wave:
 
E ljudi, ti pentiumi o kojima vi pricate NIKAKO NE MOGU BITI usko grlo u masini, bice da je kod Horusa nesto sasvim drugo sto mu koci sistem.
 
mozda mu EIST obara mnozilac u full load-u :d
 
Mozda bi neko od vas oprobo ovaj bios ?

Ali pre svega overite i temu.

-2d clocks
.98vGPU, 160core/500mem

-3d clocks
1.20vGPU, 720core/1100mem

-fan speed fixed hmm..

Nije los :)
CPU @3GHz
7/3/2008 7:14:47 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=16xQ, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 58.29s, Average FPS: 34.31
Min FPS: 25.12 at frame 137, Max FPS: 43.41 at frame 997
Average Tri/Sec: 34400056, Tri/Frame: 1002653
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.91
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 52.34s, Average FPS: 38.21
Min FPS: 25.12 at frame 137, Max FPS: 45.81 at frame 1015
Average Tri/Sec: 38712300, Tri/Frame: 1013077
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.90
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 52.11s, Average FPS: 38.38
Min FPS: 25.12 at frame 137, Max FPS: 45.81 at frame 1015
Average Tri/Sec: 38889860, Tri/Frame: 1013211
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.90
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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7/3/2008 7:14:47 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=16xQ, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 38.295

7/3/2008 7:20:27 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 47.47s, Average FPS: 42.13
Min FPS: 29.44 at frame 1965, Max FPS: 57.48 at frame 963
Average Tri/Sec: 41435208, Tri/Frame: 983553
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 42.58s, Average FPS: 46.97
Min FPS: 29.10 at frame 1953, Max FPS: 59.68 at frame 61
Average Tri/Sec: 46707324, Tri/Frame: 994475
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 43.06s, Average FPS: 46.44
Min FPS: 29.10 at frame 1953, Max FPS: 61.57 at frame 997
Average Tri/Sec: 46233508, Tri/Frame: 995453
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/3/2008 7:20:27 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 46.705

Evo u prilogu slika posto se spominje potrosnja GPU-a, probao sam bez spoljnog izvora napajanja/ 6-pinskog u 16xQ se pali VPU recover, ali je iz drugog pokusaja prosao test :d , sve ostalo radi najnormalnije cak sam igrao Krizu i Mass Effect :) Jedino se malo vise greje karta, ali nista posebno :) Eh da sam to uradio sa nekoj zelenoj prosvirale bi zavojnice na MoBo-u :mad: :-devil-:

Odoh da odradim test na E8400 :)
:wave:
 
Poslednja izmena:
ovo je bio E2180 na 3Ghz? na koliko ces da stavis E8400?
 
@Yoti:
Napisi sve iz setup-a. Procesor (FSBxmulti) i na koliko je RAM. Pretpostavljam da imas 2GB RAMa?
 
Sto covek lepo ne napise u moja misina koji procesor ima :)

Ma ne igra procesor gotovo nikakvu ulogu u Crysis-u,to smo odavno konstatovali.Tj.sve preko C2D@3Ghz je overkill. Evo Yoti je dobio ~46,5 u 1280x1024 na high,toliko daje 4850 na defaultu,isto je dao i Pixellu koji ima C2Q na 3,6.
 
nisu testirali preko istog testa. Yoti je testirao preko .bat fajla, a pixell preko onog cuda. ok, ajde predlozi neku igru u kojoj mislis da procesor igra bitnu ulogu u 12x10 sve max sa AA i AF, pa ako ima Yoti da je provrti :)
 
Sto covek lepo ne napise u moja misina koji procesor ima :)

Ma nije bitno sta ce pisati u "Moja masina", nego sto ne znamo kojim redom ce menjati procesore i kako ce ih setovati u svom testu epskih razmera a.k.a. "4 proca za jedno vece" :)
 
Čisto da napomenem da su nove preporučene maloprodajne cene Radeona HD4850 kod nas u zavisnosti od proizvođača manje od 140€.Znači tek su se pojavile a cena je već dobrano ispod 150€.
 
za sada nema nigde ispod 150e realno. ako je preporucena cena ispod 140e onda se dileri fino ugradjuju i koriste odlicne cene novih ATI karti :)
 
za sada nema nigde ispod 150e realno. ako je preporucena cena ispod 140e onda se dileri fino ugradjuju i koriste odlicne cene novih ATI karti :)

Realno neće biti po toj ceni još nedelju-dve.Očekujem da vidim šta će biti sa cenom 4870-ke ,)
 
eno je za 230e...ide ona ispod 200e za metar dana ;)
 
Poslednja izmena:
Ajde kazi gde. Mene zanima.
Mislim na PM.
 
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Nadam se da ce i nevidija na brzinu da izbaci nekog polumutanta da se biju cenama...pa da se omastimo malo..
 
Neko je ovde na bechu prodavao novu sa pisanom garancijom 2 godine za 150 evra..
 
Evo ga wolfi @3GHz, 3D 06 se tripuje da je CPU na 3600. Odoh sada na +4GHz Gorane oprosti u driveru mi je bio ostao AF na 4x, tako da su ti svi testovi u 3D 05 sa AF 4x u driveru. Evo sto Krize, sto slika i ne pustam iz bat filea krizu bench, vec iz "onog cuda" :d i zaboga nisu ovo moji procesori, jesu bili moji, ali ne pravim muzej ***e :D

Trenutni setup:

Xeon 3110/ E8400 @3GHz
Asus P5K-E
Cell Shock PC8000
Sapphire HD4850 sa modovanim BIOS-om @720/ 2200

Gorane za tebe Kriza u 1280x1024 AA x4, AF 4x - Wolfi @3GHz & GPU @720/2200

7/3/2008 11:42:03 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=4x, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 60.63s, Average FPS: 32.99
Min FPS: 19.74 at frame 156, Max FPS: 39.12 at frame 1771
Average Tri/Sec: 33508180, Tri/Frame: 1015821
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.90
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 55.85s, Average FPS: 35.81
Min FPS: 19.74 at frame 156, Max FPS: 40.95 at frame 89
Average Tri/Sec: 36774364, Tri/Frame: 1026894
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.89
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 55.79s, Average FPS: 35.85
Min FPS: 19.74 at frame 156, Max FPS: 41.16 at frame 81
Average Tri/Sec: 36835068, Tri/Frame: 1027496
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.89
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/3/2008 11:42:03 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=4x, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 35.83
 
Poslednja izmena:
To All!
Kriza sa istim setup-om ka u prethodnom postu:

7/3/2008 10:53:54 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=16xQ, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 56.86s, Average FPS: 35.18
Min FPS: 24.81 at frame 144, Max FPS: 44.37 at frame 1017
Average Tri/Sec: 35231844, Tri/Frame: 1001612
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 50.59s, Average FPS: 39.54
Min FPS: 24.81 at frame 144, Max FPS: 45.63 at frame 998
Average Tri/Sec: 40068020, Tri/Frame: 1013448
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.90
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 50.50s, Average FPS: 39.60
Min FPS: 24.81 at frame 144, Max FPS: 45.95 at frame 998
Average Tri/Sec: 40155776, Tri/Frame: 1013960
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.90
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/3/2008 10:53:54 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=16xQ, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 39.57


7/3/2008 10:45:18 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality:
Custom Quality Values:
VolumetricEffects=High
Texture=High
ObjectDetail=High
Sound=High
Shadows=High
Water=High
Physics=High
Particles=High
Shading=High
PostProcessing=High
GameEffects=High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 45.23s, Average FPS: 44.22
Min FPS: 32.82 at frame 171, Max FPS: 60.98 at frame 1001
Average Tri/Sec: 43505596, Tri/Frame: 983878
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 38.09s, Average FPS: 52.50
Min FPS: 32.82 at frame 171, Max FPS: 61.46 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: 52206988, Tri/Frame: 994403
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 38.07s, Average FPS: 52.53
Min FPS: 32.82 at frame 171, Max FPS: 62.35 at frame 996
Average Tri/Sec: 52312156, Tri/Frame: 995819
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/3/2008 10:45:18 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: ~~ Overall Average FPS: 52.515




7/3/2008 11:02:17 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1680x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 55.08s, Average FPS: 36.31
Min FPS: 24.52 at frame 148, Max FPS: 46.98 at frame 976
Average Tri/Sec: -35393696, Tri/Frame: -974725
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.94
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 48.50s, Average FPS: 41.24
Min FPS: 24.52 at frame 148, Max FPS: 47.54 at frame 1015
Average Tri/Sec: -39694076, Tri/Frame: -962536
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 48.45s, Average FPS: 41.28
Min FPS: 24.52 at frame 148, Max FPS: 48.94 at frame 1020
Average Tri/Sec: -39725968, Tri/Frame: -962372
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/3/2008 11:02:17 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 41.26





/3/2008 10:57:49 PM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1680x1050, AA=16xQ, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 73.85s, Average FPS: 27.08
Min FPS: 14.27 at frame 1331, Max FPS: 33.17 at frame 1768
Average Tri/Sec: -25767370, Tri/Frame: -951398
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.96
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 66.54s, Average FPS: 30.06
Min FPS: 14.27 at frame 1331, Max FPS: 33.40 at frame 1001
Average Tri/Sec: -28198786, Tri/Frame: -938140
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.98
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 66.51s, Average FPS: 30.07
Min FPS: 14.27 at frame 1331, Max FPS: 34.29 at frame 1018
Average Tri/Sec: -28224016, Tri/Frame: -938581
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.98
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/3/2008 10:57:49 PM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1680x1050 AA=16xQ, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 30.065


:wave:
 
nisu testirali preko istog testa. Yoti je testirao preko .bat fajla, a pixell preko onog cuda. ok, ajde predlozi neku igru u kojoj mislis da procesor igra bitnu ulogu u 12x10 sve max sa AA i AF, pa ako ima Yoti da je provrti :)

Znam da bitnu ulogu procesor igra u Supreme Commanderu :) Mislim da je to retka igra koja zesce koristi quad. Mada ni graficka nije zanemarljiva,secam se da sam prelaskom sa 7900GTO na 8800GT ima jako veliki boost u FPS-u:sa 16-18 na 7900GTO do preko 30 na 8800GT.To naravno mereno FRAPS-om,i cistog zapazanja na istim mestima ;)
 
aaaaaaa Yoti, rekoh ti da testiras sa 4850 na def. :D ovako nemamo sa cime da uporedimo :(
@DAS: da, cini mi se da je SC bas CPU zahtevan. ali to je jedna igra.
 
Poslednja izmena:
Evo ga Wolfi @4GHz ostalo isto kao gore :) Oprosti Chinaski, uletelo mi sklapanje jedne masine, pa sve vozi u 15km od NS-a, ulecem coveku u gajbu u 21, kada nisam obratio paznju... A uradicu sve ovo opet na mojoj masini sem rezolucije 1680x1050 :) U toku dana takodje odradjujem sve na E8200 i DFI X38-ci :)

Prvo za Gorana
Ovde sam zbog one greske u 3D 05-ci takodje postavio u driveru 4xAF

:wave:


Kriza:
Wolfdale XEON3110/ C2D E8400 @4GHz
Sapphire HD4850 @720/ 2200
Cell Shock PC8000
ASUS P5K-E

7/4/2008 1:41:27 AM - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=4x, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 58.36s, Average FPS: 34.27
Min FPS: 26.96 at frame 142, Max FPS: 39.49 at frame 1005
Average Tri/Sec: 34800940, Tri/Frame: 1015548
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.90
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 55.75s, Average FPS: 35.88
Min FPS: 26.96 at frame 142, Max FPS: 40.96 at frame 62
Average Tri/Sec: 36829560, Tri/Frame: 1026563
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.89
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 55.69s, Average FPS: 35.91
Min FPS: 26.96 at frame 142, Max FPS: 40.96 at frame 62
Average Tri/Sec: 36894540, Tri/Frame: 1027295
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.89
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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7/4/2008 1:41:27 AM - XP

Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=4x, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 35.895
 
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