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Ne stimaju mi ti rezultati.Prvo zbog proizvodnog procesa ima dosta prostora da se napakuju tranzistori.
Smesno bi bilo da je razlika samo ovako mala a i nelogicno je definitivno.
 
Pa zaboravljas da je najverovatnije u bitanju ES koji je po pravilu falican ;)
A u clanku koji sam procitao na anandu o IB, pricali su o manjem CPU ubrzanju i tipa 60% brzem GPU delu samog cipa...sto se donekle poklapa sa rezultatima i sa Intelovom tick tock politikom jer je IB tick u ovom slucaju :) Ipak i sam intel planira SB-E za najbrze procesore, dok ce IB zameniti srednji i najnizi segment ponude iliti trenutne SB procesore.
Ako im se isplati lako ce oni podici frekvenciju jer ce nizi proizvodni proces, omoguciti vise performanski za istu/manju potrosnju cipa :)
 
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Ako je istina ovo bice ona standardna recenica preporuke u IB, review-eri je obozavaju, parafraziram: Ako imate SB, nemojte ici na IB, ako vam je mator CPU onda upgrade da. :D

Mada mi se ovo cini ipak kao da ne stima... Bice to vise, brze i bolje.
 
fr0wn3r je napisao(la):
Ako je istina ovo bice ona standardna recenica preporuke u IB, review-eri je obozavaju, parafraziram: Ako imate SB, nemojte ici na IB, ako vam je mator CPU onda upgrade da. :D

Mada mi se ovo cini ipak kao da ne stima... Bice to vise, brze i bolje.
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Iskren da budem nerealno je ocekivati neki ludacki napredak... Jer arhitektura nije previse menjana, GPU jeste dosta doradjen i po njihovim recima sada ce to zapravo biti GPU a ne VGA :D Ajmo realno, ako ce Intel sa nizim proizvodnim procesom spustiti 4core procesore na 77W sa 95W, sigurno nece biti velikog ubrzanja, jer sa novim proizvodnim procesom imas tri stvari da biras:
1. Ista potrosnja ali vece performanse,
2. Manja potrosnja iste performanse,
3. Da se nadjemo na pola putaaaa :D sto je ocigledno Intel uradio. :)

A i zaboravljate da je ovo intelov TICK ;)
 
Jednostavno treba ostaviti prostora za haswel, nece sami sebi da uskacu u usta, a i konkurenciju trenutno kao i da nemaju, samo da ne poskupe performanse po izlasku IB, valjda ce i amd do tad da se koliko toliko pohvata.
 
fr0wn3r je napisao(la):
Za one koji zele upgrade; da mozete uzeti neku od P67 i Z68 ploca sa socket-om 1155 koje su namenjene SB i na njima ce raditi IB
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Ja baš hteo da kupim mobo sa H67 čipsetom i LGA 1155 soketom. Gledao sam ovu tabelu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

H61 - ispada jer nema SATA3
H67 - moj izbor MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) (bar do sada, SATA3, USB3)
P67 - piše da ne podržava built-up GPU in CPU (?)
Z68 - one su preko 100e, podržavaju Intel Rapid Storage Technology i Smart Response Technology (šta god to bilo)

Sve su PCI Express 2.0
 
owim je napisao(la):
Ja baš hteo da kupim mobo sa H67 čipsetom i LGA 1155 soketom. Gledao sam ovu tabelu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

H61 - ispada jer nema SATA3
H67 - moj izbor MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) (bar do sada, SATA3, USB3)
P67 - piše da ne podržava built-up GPU in CPU (?)
Z68 - one su preko 100e, podržavaju Intel Rapid Storage Technology i Smart Response Technology (šta god to bilo)

Sve su PCI Express 2.0
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P67 - ne podrzava integrisani GPU u procesoru.
Z68 - SSD caching http://www.anandtech.com/show/4337/z68-ssd-caching-with-corsairs-f40-sandforce-ssd

Gen3 su sa PCI Express 3.0
 
^ Šta mislite o MSI ploči čiji sam link dao gore? ;)
 
Za tvoje potrebe sasvim zadovoljavajuca, prepostavljam da nisi overkloker :), nisi gamer :)
 
bice i Z75 ploca? zanimljivo. za sta li ce njih da uskrate u odnosu na Z77?
 
Meni je zanimljivije sto ce verovatno samo serija 7 chipseta podrzavati Ivy :) Tako da price o podrsci serije chipsetova 6 padaju u vodu.
 
Pa videli da im se moze, jer je AMD izgubio trku posle prvih i3,i5,i7 procesora....
 
Fudzila kaže u aprilu, a da je predstavljanje detalja o samom procesoru u februaru. Sigurno će i na CES 2012 biti podosta reči o njemu.
 
pih nemogu da cekam april izgleda da cu uzeti sandy bridge oko novaka...
nadam se da necu zazaliti:)
 
acidheadd je napisao(la):
pih nemogu da cekam april izgleda da cu uzeti sandy bridge oko novaka...
nadam se da necu zazaliti:)
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S obzirom na probleme u AMD, nista intel ne tera da zure...iako pretpostavljam da oni nece praviti odlaganja kao amd

a sad uvek se moze zazaliti jer stalno dolaze nove generacije hardvera...ako cekas 10 godina i ne kupujes nista ima da ustedis ihaha :d zamisli samo koliko su ustedeli oni koji nisu dali 1500dem za P2 npr:D
 
Model Cores Threads Frequency Turbo Frequency L3 cache Graphics TDP
Core i5-3330 4 4 3 GHz 3.2 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 77 Watt
Core i5-3330S 4 4 2.7 GHz 3.2 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 65 Watt
Core i5-3450 4 4 3.1 GHz 3.5 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 77 Watt
Core i5-3450S 4 4 2.8 GHz 3.5 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 65 Watt
Core i5-3470 4 4 3.2 GHz 3.6 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 77 Watt
Core i5-3470S 4 4 2.9 GHz 3.6 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 65 Watt
Core i5-3470T 2 4 2.9 GHz 3.6 GHz 3 MB HD 2500 35 Watt
Core i5-3475S 4 4 2.9 GHz 3.6 GHz 6 MB HD 4000 65 Watt
Core i5-3550 4 4 3.3 GHz 3.7 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 77 Watt
Core i5-3550S 4 4 3 GHz 3.7 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 65 Watt
Core i5-3570 4 4 3.4 GHz 3.8 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 77 Watt
Core i5-3570K 4 4 3.4 GHz 3.8 GHz 6 MB HD 4000 77 Watt
Core i5-3570S 4 4 3.1 GHz 3.8 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 65 Watt
Core i5-3570T 4 4 2.3 GHz 3.3 GHz 6 MB HD 2500 45 Watt
Core i7-3770 4 8 3.4 GHz 3.9 GHz 8 MB HD 4000 77 Watt
Core i7-3770K 4 8 3.5 GHz 3.9 GHz 8 MB HD 4000 77 Watt
Core i7-3770S 4 8 3.1 GHz 3.9 GHz 8 MB HD 4000 65 Watt
Core i7-3770T 4 8 2.5 GHz 3.7 GHz 8 MB HD 4000 45 Watt

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011112702_Ivy_Bridge_desktop_CPU_lineup_details_part_II.html
 
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fr0wn3r je napisao(la):
Odakle ti taj podatak da ce pasovati na socket 2011 ili da ce imati toliko pin-ova? Koliko ja znam, samo je jedna vest i to nedavno procurela da ce uopste postojati IB-E, do nedavno se to samo nagadjalo od strane nas korisnika... A pomno pratim Intel i njegove release-ove tako da... Ne napadam, samo pitam posto zelim da procitam, ako je moguce da sam propustio ili preleteo nesto.
IB i SB dele isti socket 1155. SB-E i IB-E se ne zna/m.
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It looks like the current Sandy Bridge-E and the X79 just got a bit sweeter as, according to the slide over at XFastest, Ivy Bridge-E should be compatible with the LGA2011 socket and X79 chipset.

As you already know, the Ivy Bridge is based on the new 22nm manufacturing process and will use LGA1155 socket. The current Ivy Bridge-E situation is quite strange as it is something that we honestly weren't expecting from Intel, but currently it looks like that the Ivy Bridge-E, will use the current LGA2011 socket and will be compatible with X79 chipset. Of course, Ivy Bridge-E will probably end up to be an optical shrink of the Sandy Bridge-E but due to smaller manufacturing process, will definitely offer more performance, higher overclocking or lower power consumption.

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/...o-be-compatible-with-lga-2011-and-x79-chipset




A ovo mi je mnogo interesantnije :)

A single thread benchmark, using SuperPI, showed that both chips have identical performance. Using the Fritz Chess Benchmark, the 3960X (using 8 threads) only scored 20% better than the 4 threaded Ivy Bridge chip. Testing with Cinebench, the 3960X (using all 12 threads) scored 5.68 points, compared to 3.35 on the Ivy Bridge.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011112801_Early_Ivy_Bridge_Sample_Tested.html
 
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@ s16

Ivy ce biti pun pogodak. Kada izadje nece biti razloga da zalimo sto nemamo kinte za socket 2011. Sem naravno onih koji ce uposliti sva jezgra X79 platforme.
 
Ivy Bridge Official Benchmarks – Markedly Better Performance Than Sandy Bridge

Previous preliminary reports have suggested that the forthcoming Ivy Bridge CPUs will have single threaded performance on par with the existing Sandy Bridge CPUs and will mainly deliver improvements to power consumption and integrated graphics - nothing for PC enthusiasts to get excited about. However, in leaked documents sent to partners, Intel have now revealed official performance figures for IB and they look rather good. They've produced a raft of benchmarks, which reveal improvements such as 56% in ArcSoft Media Expresso, 25% in Excel 2010 and a 199% gain in the 3D Mark Vantage GPU benchmark. Unfortunately, they haven't released any benchmarks based on high performance 3D games, but it's probably safe to say that they will be similarly improved. Now, on to the benchmarks, which compare their new 3.4 GHz i7-3770 (4 cores + HT) with the current 3.4 GHz i7-2600, also with 4 cores + HT:

+7% higher overall SYSmark 2012 score
+14% higher overall HDXPRT 2011 score
+15% higher Cinebench 11.5 score
+13% better ProShow Gold 4.5 result
+25% faster performance in Excel 2010
+56% faster performance in ArcSoft Media Expresso
+192% higher overall 3DMark Vantage score
+17% faster performance in 3DMark Vantage CPU benchmark
+199% faster performance in 3DMark Vantage GPU benchmark

The key architectural enhancements delivering these improvements are:

Intel's new 22nm 3D Tri-Gate technology. More on this here
Enhanced AVX acceleration
IGP performance improved by 30% compared to its predecessor
IGP supports DX11 and OpenCL 1.1
PCI Express 3.0 x16 interface, including a PCI Express 2.0 x4 controller

The new processor range is slated for release in March or April 2012, so if one can wait a few months to upgrade their existing system, then it looks like those few months will be well worth it - especially as they're likely to make for excellent overclockers. It's interesting to note that while Windows 8, due to be released just a few months later, will support the DX11.1 point revision, these new CPUs will not. How much this will matter in real-life applications remains to be seen, however.

http://www.techpowerup.com/155994/I...dly-Better-Performance-Than-Sandy-Bridge.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...y_Bridge_Performance_Numbers_to_Partners.html
 
Well...crap :(

Intel Corp. has notified its partners about its decision to introduce of its next-generation code-named Ivy Bridge processors in the second quarter of 2012. Previously the company planned to release the Core i 3000-series central processing units (CPUs) for desktops in March - April timeframe, which left a possibility to unveil the chips in the first quarter.
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Duplo bolji u Vantage !!! Moze li ovo biti , i jos da se prenese na FPS u igrama , ako bude tako , cijena ce mu biti ...
 
Ma nema sanse, ne moze se prenijeti u igrama. A i cijena mu ne smije biti mnogo veca od 2500k/2600k.
 
Kad se malo porazmisli o Ajviju, nema nikakvog razloga za iscekivanje upgrade-a, ko vec ima neki SB. Glavnina unapredjenja odnosi se na performanse integrisane grafike, sto je vecini potpuno bezvredno, dok ce sam CPU dobiti nekih 5% veci IPC i otprilike jos toliko vecu OC marginu. Intel dozira vrlo precizno, i na kasicicu. Neki bi rekli-i moze mu se. Tu je i smanjenje TDPa sa 95 na 77w, ali realno-sta to znaci korisniku, tih 18w? U nekoj nizoj klasi i ima uticaja, OEM-ovima je to znacajno ali za tzv power korisnike, i to je prakticno beznacajno. Stici ce podrska za PCIE 3.0, pa ko ima gen3 plocu moci ce da potera next gen grafiku u novom standardu. Ali to je tek marketinski trik kao sto svi znamo, u rangu sata3 hard diskova :d

Mislim da je "fora" sto se tice upgradea sa SB na IB zapravo to sto je i to malo sto se dobija, ono sto zapravo nije ni potrebno, SB vec ima vise nego dovoljno visok IPC i dostize vise nego dovoljne frekvencije, tako da u sustini-Intel ce ponuditi nesto cega ni ne fali, dok ono sto moze biti potencijalno usko grlo 1155 platforme, nedostatak jezgara-nece biti reseno, sve na LGA1155 ostaje na 4 jezgra.
Mislim da koliko god pozicija vlasnika AM3+ 990FX platforme trenutno izgledala nezavidno, ona je ipak perspektivnija, kad je mogucnost upgrade-a u pitanju..
 
Ispada da ako zelim zver mashinu, treba mi LGA2011 i Sandy Bridge-E trenutno. Ivy bridge ce biti slabiji od 3930K tamo gde je meni interesantno (rendering uglavnom). Jedino da chekam Ivy Bridge-E, ali ko zna kad ce se tek on pojaviti ((
 
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