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Stefan1

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Vec 2 nedelje tip koji treba da mi nabavi T 610 po v.p. ceni nedobija ga.
Danas se setam gradom ,kad ono... nigde nema T 610,u Roamingu i jos jednoj prodavnici(neka mala) su mi rekli da je nestasica,a da novi koji stizu ce biti skuplji jer im je cena nerealno pala!!!
Pa jes stvarno je pala,ipak S.E.T 610 je bolji od nekih telefona cena iznad 300eura(7250 i neki Samsunzi).

Zna li neko sta je upitanju da li ce stvarno biti skuplji,i koliko(samo da nebude 300 i jace)

btw.sto ga nisam uzeo pre mesec dana
 
Nista novo za nase trgovce,
cim se nesto trazi cena mora da se poveca.
 
Stefan1 je napisao(la):
...ipak S.E.T 610 je bolji od nekih telefona cena iznad 300eura(7250 i neki Samsunzi).

:eek:
Nisam siguran!
Zar nije 610 "nabudzeni" 68? (tj na istoj platformi)
 
Najinteresantnije je sto se i trgovci cude sto mu je cena tako pala. A u poredjenju sa t68, brzi je za dve duzine, da ne govorimo o displeju, duplo vise memorije, kamerici...
 
Misko je napisao(la):
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Ne mnogo je bolji od t68/t68i
Slazem se da je bolji.


Launching of Ericsson T68 caused really a sensation on the market as it outrun all other models approximately for 1 year. As a result demand for this phone was really incredible. For the first time the company couldn’t satisfy all customers, because it just didn’t have so many phones. Potential of T68 was fully realized in Sony Ericsson T68i. It supported MMS-technology, which wasn’t realized earlier just because providers didn’t support this service. It was possible to transform T68 into T68i just by firmware changing. Hardware of the phones was the same. The company expected a high demand for this renewed phone and filled all warehouses with it. If you count total sales of T68 and T68i, they will be closed to maximum in this market segment. The other fact, which proves that T68 became a pioneer in its field, is that such phones as Siemens S55, SL55 are based on the same platform. But don’t forger that this two models are regarded to be modern phones and moreover, not long ago Siemens S55 was the most advanced phone on the market. The situation changed after introduction of Sony Ericsson T610. One more time the company overrun the time and set a new standard for this kind of handsets. T610 is based on the same platform as T68; all last corrections were taken into account. Besides, developers built-in a camera and renewed software. It’s a nonsense that the company created a new product on the old platform but it was available thanks to its flexibility. All innovations are connected with revisions of existed functions. They became richer than they were.

izvor: http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-t610-en.shtml
 
idi na www.mobilnisvet.com
tamo imas telefone mnogih prodavnica
u Beogradu kao i cebne, pa proveri sam.
 
sikili je napisao(la):
idi na www.mobilnisvet.com
tamo imas telefone mnogih prodavnica
u Beogradu kao i cebne, pa proveri sam.


Verujmi da sam ih sve zvao pa cak i oglase ali nema niko
 
Panos je napisao(la):
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Slazem se da je bolji. Hteo sam da kazem da je sa dolaskom japanaca dosla i njihova filozofija biznisa.

Primer iz auto industrije:

Evropski proizvodjaci su izbacivali nov model automobila (novi motor + nova sasija) na 6-7godina. Da bi bili konkurentni japanci su smanjili period do izlaska novog modela na 3 godine. Predstave nov model, za tri godine ubace nove motore i malo usminkaju sasiju, za tri godine (6. od pojave modela) promene sasiju i nasminkaju motor. Kupac ima utisak da na svake 3 godine izlazi novi model.
Za razliku od evropljana koji moraju da promene masine za motore i sasiju odjednom, pa dok ih sinhronizuju, ujednace kvalitet... Japanci rade to isto, menjaju ih na 6 god, ali sa faznim pomerajem od 3 god.

Elem jeste da je ovo hardware site i da na njemu ima Driver(a) koji vole japance... da se vratim na temu:

Launching of Ericsson T68 caused really a sensation on the market as it outrun all other models approximately for 1 year. As a result demand for this phone was really incredible. For the first time the company couldn’t satisfy all customers, because it just didn’t have so many phones. Potential of T68 was fully realized in Sony Ericsson T68i. It supported MMS-technology, which wasn’t realized earlier just because providers didn’t support this service. It was possible to transform T68 into T68i just by firmware changing. Hardware of the phones was the same. The company expected a high demand for this renewed phone and filled all warehouses with it. If you count total sales of T68 and T68i, they will be closed to maximum in this market segment. The other fact, which proves that T68 became a pioneer in its field, is that such phones as Siemens S55, SL55 are based on the same platform. But don’t forger that this two models are regarded to be modern phones and moreover, not long ago Siemens S55 was the most advanced phone on the market. The situation changed after introduction of Sony Ericsson T610. One more time the company overrun the time and set a new standard for this kind of handsets. T610 is based on the same platform as T68; all last corrections were taken into account. Besides, developers built-in a camera and renewed software. It’s a nonsense that the company created a new product on the old platform but it was available thanks to its flexibility. All innovations are connected with revisions of existed functions. They became richer than they were.

izvor: http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-t610-en.shtml


Da kazemo da je za to konkretan primer Mazde 626 i Mazde 6
 
Stefan1 je napisao(la):

Da obratis malo paznju kako quote-ujes?
Da ne pominjem kako je Panos promasio temu, a ti nastavljas u debeli off topic sa pominjanjem Mazdi.
 
Ja sam bash juche zvao i kod jedne firme iz mobilnisvet.com je bio telefon, ali ne po ceni koja pishe na sajtu (225€), vec za 235€...Telefon je inache skinut sa vodafona, tako da postoji mogucnost da moze da se uradi firmware...
inache, nocas sam opet kopao po netu, i provalio da postoje 3 vrste baterije, i da treba bezati od madjarske...deshava se da traje i po jedan dan...oznaka je valjda BT22, mada nisam siguran sad....Inache sam na par mesta potvrdio prichu da telefon sa R3C firmwareom troshi duplo manje, tako da baterije traju 4 dana lagano...
 
Ja sam ovih dana propustio kroz ruke nekoliko T610 skinutih sa Vodafona (230-240 eura), i ako je verovati onom thready sa Elitesecurity,

http://www.elitesecurity.org/tema/28109/0

a koji je ovde citiran u drugom aktuelnom thready o T610, Vodafone telefoni se NE MOGU fleshovati novim firmwareom (vec samo patchovanim, koji se jos nije pojavio), jer im u softverskom meniju (ili kako vec), u stavci "customization" nista ne pise. A trebalo bi CDA i jos neki brojevi, ukoliko je telefon moguce flashovati regularnim firmwareom. Soferu, imas li ti to neku drugaciju informaciju u vezi Vodafone verzije T610?
 
A sta se moze dobiti flashovanjem T610 sa novijim firmware-om? Ili onim patchovanjem i koja je razlika?

POZ cheers
 
Kako stoji stvar sa t610 skinutim sa T-mobile mreze po pitanj f-warea?
 
Chini mi se da se na sve primerke skinute sa nekih mreza moze staviti novi FW. Bar sam to ja skontao iz nekih txt-ova i iz priche sa guruom. Pogledaj shta ti pishe u Service menu>Service info>SW inf. stavke "Costomization"! Ako neshto pishe trebalo bi da moze a ako ne pishe nishta onda morash da chekash patchovani FW kao ja :(!
 
Gidra85 je napisao(la):
A sta se moze dobiti flashovanjem T610 sa novijim firmware-om? Ili onim patchovanjem i koja je razlika?

POZ cheers
Dobijas isto, jedina razlika je da li je tvoj telefon "empty board" (patch) ili "original", tj koja verzija firmware-a.

Evo sta popravlja R3C002 :


1. Phone seems to be working fine.

2. Menus load a lot faster. Delay in response is hardly noticeable.

3. JAVA applications run much better and smoother. Better support for JAVA applications. Some games that did not run on R1A now runs on R3C. Java performance is remarkably improved, both loading time and runtime performance. Monster Land is playable on it now.

4. Playback on recordings are now played on the loadspeaker. No need to listen to recordings as if you are listening to a phone call. This new feature does NOT act like a speakerphone. It only playbacks recorded audio on the loudspeaker.

5. Clock on standby screen has more rounded font.

6. Now you can copy individual phonebook entries from the SIM to the Phone's memory. This is done via Phonebook->Advanced->Call from SIM->then select the contact you want->More->Copy to phone. No facility yet to copy individual contacts from phone to SIM.

7. Camera looks pictures look sharper and better. In R1A, only brightness control (Up and Down joystick on camera mode) is available. Now, saturation control (Left and Right on joystick on camera mode) is already available.

8. My sounds memory usage is now reported. In R1A, the total memory is reported as "0kb" and you have to click on the My sounds to get a listing of sounds with the corresponding memory usage per sound.

9. Editing (add effects) pictures process faster. NEW TRICK HERE: I found that when I edit a picture using picture editor in the phone, the saved file size is smaller. My sample started at 50kb then after adjusting the brightness, the picture is now 36kb. Reducing picture size by editing them on phone reduce the quality significantly. I found that the "brightness" effect has the least effect on picture quality. So what I do is to first insert a picture that is darker by about 40% then edit in the phone with the picture effect.

10. Turning ON the phone makes the same single "clang" sound just like in turning OFF the phone. Before, when I turn on my phone, I just see the little Red LED light a little bit and here a very faint wave type of sound. Turning OFF the phone gives me this "clang" sound. Now, the "clang" sound is there on both ON and OFF.

11. Animated gif images now playing much faster than before. I tested with a 120x115 gif, the frame rate is about 60% of that on PC. I remember it was about 10%.

12. The "increasing volume" effect while playing ring tones in "My sounds" is removed.

13. It couldn't display Chinese in java Canvas. It can now. It's probably because of "prgCXC125585_CHINA_2". Liuyidaocn is from Singapore and the new firmware on his T610 is R3C004_prgCXC125585_CHINA_2. Please note that the original post is based on my firmware of R3C004_ASIAN_LATIN_3.

14. "Resend" text messages. If you look in "Sent" text messages, highlight a sent message and press "More" and there is now a facility to "Resend" a text message. Note that this is different from "Forwarding" a text message.

15.When vibrate is ON, calendar and timer alarms also vibrate.

16.T9 text input mode: When replying to message, pressing the joystick accepts the word. When not in T9, joystick press sends message.
 
Zorro je napisao(la):
Ja sam ovih dana propustio kroz ruke nekoliko T610 skinutih sa Vodafona (230-240 eura), i ako je verovati onom thready sa Elitesecurity,

http://www.elitesecurity.org/tema/28109/0

a koji je ovde citiran u drugom aktuelnom thready o T610, Vodafone telefoni se NE MOGU fleshovati novim firmwareom (vec samo patchovanim, koji se jos nije pojavio), jer im u softverskom meniju (ili kako vec), u stavci "customization" nista ne pise. A trebalo bi CDA i jos neki brojevi, ukoliko je telefon moguce flashovati regularnim firmwareom. Soferu, imas li ti to neku drugaciju informaciju u vezi Vodafone verzije T610?

Pricha je bila sledeca....Telefoni koji su skinuti sa bilo koje mreze, mogu se fleshovati bez problema, dok oni koji su ukradeni sa trake (ovo mi jos nije jasno, jer ako je tako, kod nas su svi telefoni kradeni) ne mogu dok ne izadje patchovani R3C002...koliko vec ovo pratim i gledam po netu, ispade da ovde i nema da se nadje telefon koji ima ono CDA <brojevi>, jer svaki telefon koji sam video i svaka pricha po forumima se vezivala za empty board....na kraju se ni ne isplati ici u veliku firmu gde je telefon 250-290€, jer i oni imaju iste telefone...ja josh nisam krenuo da trazim, fali mi josh kesha, ali ako nadjem, bacam thread odmah, pa da pokupite svi koji ste hteli...
 
Mom telefonu pise 'vako:

"bla bla...

Customization MS
CDA102222/106 R25A

Customization TAE
CDA102222/106 T25A"

I opet se zaglavljuje, blokira, spor je itd.
 
pa to je onaj telefon shto meni treba ;)
 
A gde mogu da skinem te nove FW-e? I kako se instaliraju na fon? Da li treba da nosim fon u servis?
Ja sam tek sada provalio da joystick ima neku funkciju u modu kamere.
Gore i dole mi se nista ne desava ali levo i desno podesava se saturation (ja mislim ili kako se vec zove). A ver. SW mi je R1L.

POZ cheers
 
A sa novim FW,u modu kamere, gore/dole: podesavas brightness :)
[nemam tel, ali citam :)]
 
driver je napisao(la):
inache, nocas sam opet kopao po netu, i provalio da postoje 3 vrste baterije, i da treba bezati od madjarske...deshava se da traje i po jedan dan...oznaka je valjda BT22, mada nisam siguran sad....Inache sam na par mesta potvrdio prichu da telefon sa R3C firmwareom troshi duplo manje, tako da baterije traju 4 dana lagano...

Znaci zato meni trosi kao lud bateriju sto mi je jako cudno jer nekad npr. kada ga napunim trudim se da ga uopsta ne koristim(provera) i jedva dan ipo izdrzi?!?!? Inace jel moze negde da se nadje original baterija?KOju ti imas bateriju?
 
driver je napisao(la):
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dok oni koji su ukradeni sa trake (ovo mi jos nije jasno, jer ako je tako, kod nas su svi telefoni kradeni)
Znaci da su ukradeni u fabrici dok jos u njih nije upisano apsolutno nista. E sad nemoze se sve upisati samo upisivanjem novog FW.
 
A gde da skinem FW!?!?!
 
Ne opterecujte se sa skidanjem firmwarea, prvo proverite da li imate telefon koji uopshte moze da se upgrade-uje, a najverovatnije nemate :) fw moze da se upishe samo posebnim hardverom, a ta usluga na par mesta koshta 10€....bolje brinite da li imate empty board telefon....
 
Da li to znaci Driver-u da treba da imamo empty board ili ne? Ja mislim da imam fon koji je regularan i da moze da se upgrade-uje. Ali za svaki slucaj kako provereno da proverim da li mi je fon uredu za upgrade?
Gde god nas moze da se izvrsi taj upgrade a da je pouzdano?


POZ cheers
 
(> znaci joystick gurnes udesno a < ulevo; * je naravn ozvezdica :mrgreen: )

>*<<*<*

Ulazis u "Service"
Izaberes "Service info" (prva opcija odozgo)
Izaberes "SW info (prva opcija)
i dobijes pun ekran raznoraznih brojeva i slova.
Prvih 6 je verzija SW-a
Skrolujes dole i nadjes gde pise "Customization MS" I "Customization TAE". ispod toga treba da pise CDA i jos pun red brojeva.
Ako ti je ispod ova dva polja prazno znaci da je emptu board i (za sada) za njega ne postoji novija verzija od R1L.
Znaci ako hoces da ga upgrade-jes ne treba da imas empty board.
Pouzdanije od ovoga ne moze i ne treba.

Pozdrav
 
Jupi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Proverio sam kako si napisao i imam brojeve i ispod jednog i ispod drugog Customization-a. A sada sta je sledece??
Gde mogu da izvrsim nadogradnju na RC3002 ili ako ima noviji?

POZ cheers
 
pogledaj ovde:

http://www.elitesecurity.org/tema/28109/0

neko je ostavio adresu/tel za flash (cena 10€)
 
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