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NEC 7173S - Link

Da li to što se drajv pojavio u ASBIS-ovoj ponudi možda znači da će ga uskoro biti u maloprodajama ili možda negde već pojavio?

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Veliki test DVDRW optičkih drajvova

Veliki test optičkih drajvova sa nemačkog sajta. Jeste na nemačkom, ali se glavno može skontati i bez znanja nemačkog, ovo boldovana cifra je ukupan skor.
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10 najboljih drajvova
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Poslednja izmena:
ma lazu - pioneer i plextor su najbolji, to valjda svi znaju :eyebrows:
 
vidim da ima za fine pare da se uzme doticni rezac.

kakvi su utisci? rezanje/citanje/rad sa ostecenim medijima?

p.s kolika je garancija
 
Poslednja izmena:
izvinjavam se ali nisam imao vremena da se vise poigram sa rezacem (nestalo mi praznih diskova :) ). za vikend cu morati malo da oslobodim hard pa ce biti prilicno za rezanje. onda ce biti i scanova i konkretnijih informacija. do tada par prvih utisaka: bucan je prilicno kada ucitava/iscitava disk (stari rezac je 3540a i recimo da su slicni po bucnosti); seek time me i nije preterano odusevio (definitivno nije brz kao sto su ljudi ovde pominjali da je brza sata optika ili ja nesto nisam dobro podesio, negde je na nivou starog rezaca); od trenutka kada ubacim disk do trenutka kada mi otvori prozor sa sadrzajem istog prodje vise od 10sec (tj. do trenutka kada cujem da se motor pokrene treba mu oko 10sec, a posle u toku od 1-2sec prikazuje sadrzaj diska. isto je i kada ubacim disk dok je nero otvoren, treba da prodje oko 12sec pa da moze da se nastavi rad u nero-u); pun dvd+r verbatim (multimedija, tacnije filmovi) mi je iskopirao na hard za oko 9:30min; jedino sto sam do sada rezao je neki raspali platinent dvd+rw ne pun, oko 3GB na 4x naravno, i ne secam se koliko mu je vremena trebalo ali je sve bilo ok; ono sto mi se dopalo je da je uspeo da prekopira jedan film sa tog istog platinent-a koji 3540 nije hteo (blokirala bi mi se cela masina prilikom kopiranja). sve u svemu, prvi utisak je da nije ni bolji ni gori od mog starog rezaca, ali pravi ispit mu tek predstoji za vikend a tada ce biti i vise informacija. pozdrav.
 
za sada narezao dva diska (verbatim dvd+r 16x kupljeni u prlazu kod doma omladine - mislim da se radnja zove 300 cuda). rezao sam avi fajlove, verzija nera je 7.7.5.1. ukratko, scanovi su prilicno losi.

prvi disk sam rezao na 16x (rezac nudi i brzinu od 18) sa verifikacijom podataka i ceo proces je trajao prilicno - oko 17 i po minuta (od toga rezanje oko 8 i ostatak verifikacija).

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drugi disk sam rezao na 8x, takodje sa verifikacijom ali i malim overburnom. kada je trebala da krene verifikacija prijavio mi je gresku (kada sam pokusao da prekopiram na hard sadrzaj diska jedan avi nece da se iskopira), a samo rezanje je trajalo oko 8 minuta (sto bi treablo da je ok ali nije ok sto je rezanje na 16x trajalo skoro isto vremenski).

evo ga log file kada je prijavio gresku:
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1C82-0000-19E5-MAAX-4003-3434-****

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.7.5.1
Internal Version: 7, 7, 5, 1

Recorder: <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S> Version: 1-00 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.7.5.1
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <IH4121O BTX864L >Version: 2.0B - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.7.5.1
Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HD321KJ atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S atapi Port 6 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : IH4121O BTX864L 2.0B a2s8ohqo Port 8 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S E: CDRom0
IH4121O BTX864L G: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046956kB)
Free physical memory: 508MB (521040kB)
Memory in use : 50 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

30.3.2007
ISO compilation
18:04:16 #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 411
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

18:04:17 #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6527
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

18:04:17 #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3334
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

18:04:17 #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3465
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

18:04:25 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 306
Last possible write address on media: 2303999 (511:59.74, 4499MB), real: 4482MB
Last address to be written: 2301087 (511:21.12, 4494MB)

18:04:25 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 318
Write in overburning mode: YES (enabled: CD DVD)

18:04:25 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2912
Recorder: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC, Media Type ID: 004, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7

18:04:25 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 490
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Not enough free discspace.
(Medium in drive: DVD+R. Medium required by compilation: DVD R/RW; DVD R DL; DVD-RAM.)
Data to be written: 0 bytes (0 bytes)
Space available on the disc: 0 bytes (0 bytes)

18:04:25 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 823
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2301088 (2301088) = #2301088/511:21.13
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2301088 blocks [E: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S]
--------------------------------------------------------------

18:04:25 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1026
Prepare [E: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4712628224, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 2301088 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 2301088 | 0 | 0x00
2301088 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

18:04:25 #11 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 209
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

18:04:25 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Caching of files started

18:04:25 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4298
Cache writing successful.

18:04:25 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Caching of files completed

18:04:25 #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Burn process started at 8x (11.080 KB/s)

18:04:25 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2764
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

18:04:25 #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9288
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC.....
Media type ID: 004
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 4D 43 43 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 34 00 38 ...MCC.....004.8
23 54 37 12 02 54 6C 02 - 92 5F 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Tl.._......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

18:04:25 #18 SPTI -1065 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 179
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1065)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xF9 15 01 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 20

18:04:25 #19 SPTI -1065 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 179
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1065)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xF9 14 01 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 20

18:04:25 #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 7137
Drive: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S
Book Type request [gen]: DVD-ROM, write to EEPROM
Changing the Book Type was finished with error, return code -1065

18:04:25 #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6518
Drive: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S
Book Type request [NEC]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished with error, return code -1065

18:04:25 #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 674
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

18:12:11 #23 SPTI -1064 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 179
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1064)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x21
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 23 05 40 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 21
Buffer x2a741bc0: Len x10000
0xD0 FA 4D 64 CA 57 4A 5C 5B CB 45 70 1E 33 FF 5D
0x68 24 86 9A C3 53 A4 0E 46 A4 42 C1 68 45 70 0D
0xCF D6 D1 1E 07 29 3A 33 E5 73 8B 8E 84 A6 89 72

18:12:11 #24 CDR -1064 File Writer.cpp, Line 301
Invalid block address
E: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173S

18:12:44 #25 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Burn process failed at 8x (11.080 KB/s)

18:12:44 #26 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 254
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

18:12:49 #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10529
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

18:12:49 #28 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 411
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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da jos napomenem da sam kod prvog diska prilikom skeniranja stavio 8x, a kod drugog 5x. takodje, prilikom rezanja bili su aktivni jos neki programi (firefox, azureus, utorrent...) ali to ne bi smelo da ima veze jer sa starim rezacem nije bilo nikakvih problema. nesto mi je sve ovo sumnjivo. probacu jos par varijanti pa javljam utiske. poz.
 
evo jos scanova... nero 7.8.5.0

isti diskovi kao u prethodnom postu, rezano na 8x sa data verifikacijom, vreme oko 17 minuta od toga samo rezanje oko 7
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rezano (greskom) na 18x sa data verifikacijom, vreme rezanja oko 7 i po minuta
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rezano na 16x sa data verifikacijom, vreme 17 minuta (rezanje oko 7 i po minuta)
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nije mi jasno zasto mu je potrebno vise od 7 minuta da nareze disk na 16x (pogotovo 18x), i zasto se prilikom rezanja na 16x i 18x javljaju ovako ekstremne vrednosti PI errors i failures na 2GB?


edit: evo jos jednog scana na 8x. i ovde se javio isti problem kod 2GB. u cemu je fora?
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Poslednja izmena:
jos jedan veliki minus za 7173s, nadam se da ce se to ispraviti novim verzijama firmware-a i/ili nero-a, je sto labelflash/disc t@2 tool "ne vidi" uredjaj (no capable recorder found). inace, instaliran nero premium 7.8.5.0 i labelflash ikonica se jedino vidi u nero start smart-u, ne i u nero burning rom-u i nero express-u. na nero.com-u stoji da se podrska za labelflash automatski integrise u toolbar nero burning rom-a i u advanced settings nero express-a.


edit:

usput, evo jos jednog scana - isti disk kao i u prethodnim postovima rezan na 8x

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ili su ovi verbovi krs ili je rezac prilicno lame uradjen. :wall: probacu i druge diskove pa kacim scanove.
 
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Tnx za testove.

Meni inace treba 7 i po minuta da prerezem DVD-DVD (quick copy) na 12X (pioneer 110d reze, jer lose cita, samsung 183A cita)

Pri rezanju na 16x dobije se isti rezultat.
 
evo jos par scanova. mislim da officially mogu reci kako je rezac njesra (nareze on diskove bez problema i isti prodju verifikaciju, ali su scanovi ocajni).

Verbatim DVD-R rezan na 8x

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Memorex DVD+R rezan na 8x

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ja mogu da potvrdim pricu da rezac stvarno nije nisht specijalno,ali bash nishta... Shto rece covek iznad mene,reze on sve,ali mi se cini da je onaj nec 4571 shto sam imao pre ovoga bolji za klasu,da ne kazem dve...
 
da nakon nekog vremena osvezimo temu..
posto sam neki dan uzeo ovaj rezac da ostavim par slicica:D
a kako nema puno sata ezaca u ponudi, mozda nekome koristi, u svakom slucaju ne skodi ,)
stavio sam novi firmware [1.23 OEM] rpc1 sa:
http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/Optiarc-AD-7170A/
evo skenova
disk je rezan na 16x, narezan za 5.5-6sec.
samo jedan scan na 16x nije quick scan [prva slika]
 

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