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Pozdrav svima!
Imam pitanje u vezi narezivanja muzičkih CD-ova, tačnije lossless fajlova. Unapred se izvinjavam zbog dužine posta, sve zbog detaljnijeg objašnjavanja problema.
Nabavio sam nekoliko CD ripova starijih izdanja grupe Black Sabbath. U pitanju su diskovi koji su izrađeni 1986. godine, često sam za tako stara izdanja dobijao preporuke da prilikom narezivanja CDR-ova dodam tzv. PE flag. Ripovi su različitog porekla, pa ću postaviti sadržaje cue sheet-a dva različita ripa u vezi kojih imam nedoumice:
Album Paranoid (NELCD 6003)
REM GENRE "Heavy Metal"
REM DATE 1970
REM DISCID 840E3909
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb5"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
TITLE "Paranoid [NELCD-6003]"
FILE "Black Sabbath - Paranoid [NELCD-6003].wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "War Pigs"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 00:00:37
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Paranoid"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 07:55:57
INDEX 01 07:56:62
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Planet Caravan"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 10:44:44
INDEX 01 10:45:62
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Iron Man"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 15:09:64
INDEX 01 15:11:22
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Electric Funeral"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 21:04:64
INDEX 01 21:06:40
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Hand Of Doom"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 25:54:37
INDEX 01 25:56:30
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Rat Salad"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 33:04:24
INDEX 01 33:04:25
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Fairies Wear Boots"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 35:33:27
INDEX 01 35:34:55
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Wicked World (live)"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 41:48:02
INDEX 01 41:49:40
Album Master Of Reality (NELCD 6004)
REM GENRE "Hard Rock"
REM DATE 1971
REM DISCID 70096209
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.0b3"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
TITLE "Master Of Reality (1986, Castle Communication, NELCD 6004)"
FILE "Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality (1986, Castle Communication, NELCD 6004).wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Sweet Leaf"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 00:00:33
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "After Forever"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 05:03:25
INDEX 01 05:06:10
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Embryo"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 10:31:13
INDEX 01 10:33:25
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Children Of The Grave"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 15:33:25
INDEX 01 15:33:28
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Orchid"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 16:17:15
INDEX 01 16:18:53
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Lord Of This World"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 17:49:43
INDEX 01 17:49:45
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Solitude"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 23:13:60
INDEX 01 23:16:10
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Into The Void"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 28:18:25
INDEX 01 28:18:28
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Killing Yourself To Live (Live)"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 34:30:30
INDEX 01 34:32:00
Kao što se iz priloženih cue sheet-ova vidi kod prvog albuma Paranoid nisu dodate linije sa oznakama FLAGS PRE za uključivanje preemphasis-a, dok su kod drugog albuma Master Of Reality one dodate u svakom audio track-u nakon linija PERFORMER. Moje pitanje je dali će biti razlike u zvuku ako narežem oba albuma sa cue sheet-ovima ovakvim kakvi jesu, odnosno kod prvog albuma sa isključenim, a kod drugog albuma sa uključenim preemphasis-om? Napominjem da CD-ove slušam preko CD plejera Sony CDP-X77ES koristeći analogni izlaz. Molim za odgovor one koji su već imali iskustva sa pomenutim problemom.
Hvala!
Imam pitanje u vezi narezivanja muzičkih CD-ova, tačnije lossless fajlova. Unapred se izvinjavam zbog dužine posta, sve zbog detaljnijeg objašnjavanja problema.
Nabavio sam nekoliko CD ripova starijih izdanja grupe Black Sabbath. U pitanju su diskovi koji su izrađeni 1986. godine, često sam za tako stara izdanja dobijao preporuke da prilikom narezivanja CDR-ova dodam tzv. PE flag. Ripovi su različitog porekla, pa ću postaviti sadržaje cue sheet-a dva različita ripa u vezi kojih imam nedoumice:
Album Paranoid (NELCD 6003)
REM GENRE "Heavy Metal"
REM DATE 1970
REM DISCID 840E3909
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb5"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
TITLE "Paranoid [NELCD-6003]"
FILE "Black Sabbath - Paranoid [NELCD-6003].wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "War Pigs"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 00:00:37
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Paranoid"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 07:55:57
INDEX 01 07:56:62
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Planet Caravan"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 10:44:44
INDEX 01 10:45:62
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Iron Man"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 15:09:64
INDEX 01 15:11:22
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Electric Funeral"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 21:04:64
INDEX 01 21:06:40
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Hand Of Doom"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 25:54:37
INDEX 01 25:56:30
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Rat Salad"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 33:04:24
INDEX 01 33:04:25
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Fairies Wear Boots"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 35:33:27
INDEX 01 35:34:55
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Wicked World (live)"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
INDEX 00 41:48:02
INDEX 01 41:49:40
Album Master Of Reality (NELCD 6004)
REM GENRE "Hard Rock"
REM DATE 1971
REM DISCID 70096209
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.0b3"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
TITLE "Master Of Reality (1986, Castle Communication, NELCD 6004)"
FILE "Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality (1986, Castle Communication, NELCD 6004).wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Sweet Leaf"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 00:00:33
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "After Forever"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 05:03:25
INDEX 01 05:06:10
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Embryo"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 10:31:13
INDEX 01 10:33:25
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Children Of The Grave"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 15:33:25
INDEX 01 15:33:28
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Orchid"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 16:17:15
INDEX 01 16:18:53
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Lord Of This World"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 17:49:43
INDEX 01 17:49:45
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Solitude"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 23:13:60
INDEX 01 23:16:10
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Into The Void"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 28:18:25
INDEX 01 28:18:28
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Killing Yourself To Live (Live)"
PERFORMER "Black Sabbath"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 34:30:30
INDEX 01 34:32:00
Kao što se iz priloženih cue sheet-ova vidi kod prvog albuma Paranoid nisu dodate linije sa oznakama FLAGS PRE za uključivanje preemphasis-a, dok su kod drugog albuma Master Of Reality one dodate u svakom audio track-u nakon linija PERFORMER. Moje pitanje je dali će biti razlike u zvuku ako narežem oba albuma sa cue sheet-ovima ovakvim kakvi jesu, odnosno kod prvog albuma sa isključenim, a kod drugog albuma sa uključenim preemphasis-om? Napominjem da CD-ove slušam preko CD plejera Sony CDP-X77ES koristeći analogni izlaz. Molim za odgovor one koji su već imali iskustva sa pomenutim problemom.
Hvala!