KPN-Eunet
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- Učlanjen(a)
- 26.07.2001
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http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2002/05/15/rtr602968.html#skipad
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/25303.html
Mada je pitanje kako ce to da se odrazi na krajnjeg korisnika. Npr. i EON je kao bankrotirao pa i dalje radi (zasada...).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/25303.html
Mada je pitanje kako ce to da se odrazi na krajnjeg korisnika. Npr. i EON je kao bankrotirao pa i dalje radi (zasada...).
Aponen
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- 16.12.2001
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Drago mi je da je neko pokrenuo ovaj thread!
Pre tri nedelje sam i ja to pozeleo, nakon sto sam na CNBC-ju video izvestaj sa AEX-a (amsterdamska berza) po kojem je pomenutoj firmi, za jedan dan,pala vrednosti akcija cak za 62,2%.
Nisam mogao a da ne pomislim na to da su tako prosli kada se proculo da su poceli da saradjuju sa Karicima!
Pre tri nedelje sam i ja to pozeleo, nakon sto sam na CNBC-ju video izvestaj sa AEX-a (amsterdamska berza) po kojem je pomenutoj firmi, za jedan dan,pala vrednosti akcija cak za 62,2%.
Nisam mogao a da ne pomislim na to da su tako prosli kada se proculo da su poceli da saradjuju sa Karicima!
petri
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Aponen je napisao(la):
Da li se zna uzrok tome?
Mozda los izvestaj (kvartalni ili tromesecni)??
Anyway, ako su oni kao firma bankrotirali, nece da se desi da se to tamo sve pogasi od opreme i zamre ceo biznis, jednostavno ce da dodje neko drugi i da ih kupi za male pare
P.S. Sto li ja nemam te "male pare"
Aj (D)
Heechee
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Amon_Ra je napisao(la):I sta kazu korisnici EUneta, da li se primecuje razlika?
Sto nikad nisam voleo taj EUnet
Desavanja trenutna u KPNQwestu se ne odrazavaju na funkcionalnost EUnetovih linkova niti korisnici mogu da primete ova desavanja u radu (sto je i logicno zar ne - vest je bila da su pred bankrotom a ne da su ukinuli sve svoje linkove)
To sto ti nisi nikada voleo EUnet to je vec tvoj problem
Zorro
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Posto vas bas interesuje situacija u KPN-u, evo vam kompletne interne poruke za radnike te firme:
Dear Colleagues,
I am writing to you tonight to communicate with you directly on the
current state of affairs confronting KPNQwest.
I do not think that I am overstating the situation by observing that
this week has been the darkest week in our company's
short history. It is understandable that employees, suppliers, and
customers have begun to wonder about the very survival
of our firm because of the announcements we made earlier in the week
about our financial situation. It is true that our situation is
perilous, but it is by no means hopeless. Time is short and our destiny
will be defined in the next 10 weeks.
Perhaps some may question the directness of this message, but I have too
much respect for the people of this firm to
sugarcoat or "dilbert" the message.
Let me tell you the unvarnished truth about where we stand. Due to
dramatic changes in the telecom market we find ourselves confronting a
cash shortage in 2002 because of the shutdown of the capacity and
infrastructure markets. This cash shortfall led me to conclude that KQ
might run short of cash later this year. Communicating this conclusion
to the market, as we were bound to do, has materially worsened our cash
position. Customers are shying away and suppliers are demanding cash as
never before. We have appealed to our shareholders to assist us through
this crisis, but they have informed us that they cannot do anything to
help us. Our banks, upon whose funding we were always dependant, have
signaled that they are no longer willing to risk funding us in the face
of this hostile market without the support of our shareholders. Our
shareholders have given us permission to seek the support of other
telecommunications or financial institutions. In short, we're for sale.
In the last week I have personally called on several of the largest
companies in our industry to determine their interest in KQ. I expect
that most of them will explore the possibility of acquiring our company.
I believe that any one of these firms would be greatly advantaged by
integrating KQ into their operations. If one of them does decide to
inject new capital into KQ, the status of the existing debt and equity
securities holders will be materially changed.
In the coming weeks we will either find a source of financial support or
we will not. If we do, our position in Europe will be assured. If we do
not,we will be dependant upon the banks for our survival and while I
cannot predict what course of action they will take, I do not now
believe that they would continue to fund our operations indefinitely. We
will know where we stand before the end of the summer.
There have been many rumors in the last few days. I hope the facts above
can help you understand where we are. I also want to directly confront
one false rumor. KQ will make payroll in May, and I believe we can
continue to make payroll while we seek new financial support in the
weeks ahead. I also can confirm that Q1 bonus payments for KQ and Ebone
and GTS Central Europe
will be paid in most parts of the company next week. I am aware that
some question the payment of these bonuses during times like these, but
I firmly believe that these bonuses were earned and are deserved. The
people of KQ have worked tirelessly and sacrificed greatly in Q1. They
deserve to be appropriately compensated for their achievements.
Let me close by appealing once again to the heroic qualities so often
demonstrated by so many of you. In this, the worst week in our company's
history, the network organization completed the integration of the KQ
and Ebone IP network domains, the wholesale group closed over 2M of new
business, the retail organization signed several high profile
contracts, and the finance, legal, and corporate staffs completed
several complex negotiations. I urge you to stay the course. By
continuing to excel in your day to day responsibilities you give me a
platform of performance to demonstrate the quality and value of our firm
to new sources of support.
Thanks,
Jack
Dakle, firma jos nije bankrotirala, ali ocajnicki trazi nekoga da je kupi. Za domace korisnike bi bilo veoma dobro da KPN prezivi, na ovaj ili onaj nacin, jer ce tada Eunet u svojoj ponudi imati i nekoliko veoma korisnih inovacija. Ona koja se meni najvise svidja je tzv. "international dial-up account" (ne znam da li se bas ovako tacno zove). Dakle, korisnici eunet-a koji zatraze ovu uslugu dobice mogucnost da u vecini normalnih evropskih (i ne samo evropskih) zemalja (konkretno, onih koje su ukljucene u EURORINGS mrezu) koriste odredjene lokalne brojeve za kacenje na net, a sati ce im biti "skidani" sa Eunet naloga koji placaju ovde. Nema gubljenja vremena na trazenje lokaklnog provajdera, regulisanje potrosenih sati i ostalih nepotrebnih gluposti koje vas mogu smarati u ovakvim situacijama. Ko je bar jedanput isao u inostranstvo sa notebook-om i zeleo da se nakaci, eventualno i odradi nesto konkretnije osim surf-a, shvatice koliko je ovo dobra stvar...
Dear Colleagues,
I am writing to you tonight to communicate with you directly on the
current state of affairs confronting KPNQwest.
I do not think that I am overstating the situation by observing that
this week has been the darkest week in our company's
short history. It is understandable that employees, suppliers, and
customers have begun to wonder about the very survival
of our firm because of the announcements we made earlier in the week
about our financial situation. It is true that our situation is
perilous, but it is by no means hopeless. Time is short and our destiny
will be defined in the next 10 weeks.
Perhaps some may question the directness of this message, but I have too
much respect for the people of this firm to
sugarcoat or "dilbert" the message.
Let me tell you the unvarnished truth about where we stand. Due to
dramatic changes in the telecom market we find ourselves confronting a
cash shortage in 2002 because of the shutdown of the capacity and
infrastructure markets. This cash shortfall led me to conclude that KQ
might run short of cash later this year. Communicating this conclusion
to the market, as we were bound to do, has materially worsened our cash
position. Customers are shying away and suppliers are demanding cash as
never before. We have appealed to our shareholders to assist us through
this crisis, but they have informed us that they cannot do anything to
help us. Our banks, upon whose funding we were always dependant, have
signaled that they are no longer willing to risk funding us in the face
of this hostile market without the support of our shareholders. Our
shareholders have given us permission to seek the support of other
telecommunications or financial institutions. In short, we're for sale.
In the last week I have personally called on several of the largest
companies in our industry to determine their interest in KQ. I expect
that most of them will explore the possibility of acquiring our company.
I believe that any one of these firms would be greatly advantaged by
integrating KQ into their operations. If one of them does decide to
inject new capital into KQ, the status of the existing debt and equity
securities holders will be materially changed.
In the coming weeks we will either find a source of financial support or
we will not. If we do, our position in Europe will be assured. If we do
not,we will be dependant upon the banks for our survival and while I
cannot predict what course of action they will take, I do not now
believe that they would continue to fund our operations indefinitely. We
will know where we stand before the end of the summer.
There have been many rumors in the last few days. I hope the facts above
can help you understand where we are. I also want to directly confront
one false rumor. KQ will make payroll in May, and I believe we can
continue to make payroll while we seek new financial support in the
weeks ahead. I also can confirm that Q1 bonus payments for KQ and Ebone
and GTS Central Europe
will be paid in most parts of the company next week. I am aware that
some question the payment of these bonuses during times like these, but
I firmly believe that these bonuses were earned and are deserved. The
people of KQ have worked tirelessly and sacrificed greatly in Q1. They
deserve to be appropriately compensated for their achievements.
Let me close by appealing once again to the heroic qualities so often
demonstrated by so many of you. In this, the worst week in our company's
history, the network organization completed the integration of the KQ
and Ebone IP network domains, the wholesale group closed over 2M of new
business, the retail organization signed several high profile
contracts, and the finance, legal, and corporate staffs completed
several complex negotiations. I urge you to stay the course. By
continuing to excel in your day to day responsibilities you give me a
platform of performance to demonstrate the quality and value of our firm
to new sources of support.
Thanks,
Jack
Dakle, firma jos nije bankrotirala, ali ocajnicki trazi nekoga da je kupi. Za domace korisnike bi bilo veoma dobro da KPN prezivi, na ovaj ili onaj nacin, jer ce tada Eunet u svojoj ponudi imati i nekoliko veoma korisnih inovacija. Ona koja se meni najvise svidja je tzv. "international dial-up account" (ne znam da li se bas ovako tacno zove). Dakle, korisnici eunet-a koji zatraze ovu uslugu dobice mogucnost da u vecini normalnih evropskih (i ne samo evropskih) zemalja (konkretno, onih koje su ukljucene u EURORINGS mrezu) koriste odredjene lokalne brojeve za kacenje na net, a sati ce im biti "skidani" sa Eunet naloga koji placaju ovde. Nema gubljenja vremena na trazenje lokaklnog provajdera, regulisanje potrosenih sati i ostalih nepotrebnih gluposti koje vas mogu smarati u ovakvim situacijama. Ko je bar jedanput isao u inostranstvo sa notebook-om i zeleo da se nakaci, eventualno i odradi nesto konkretnije osim surf-a, shvatice koliko je ovo dobra stvar...
