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AMD Ryzen 3

Ja mislio tvoj.. r5 1600(x) koji su 8/16 video sam da su i kod Rusa se pojavili. A za ovo cudo nisam znao.
 
Kad se malo bolje pogleda video, kao da je i ovo od rusa. Piše u Task Manager-u "ЦП" ili "цп", ako se ne varam.
 
Moguce. ЦП mozda nije samo kod Rusa. U svakom slucaju pretragom nisam uspeo da nadjem taj primerak na Ru segmentu interneta.
 
Jos i OEM. Ako za ovo saznaju (a to je pitanje vremena) - nece ih biti vise u prodaji. Tamo i box po magacinima znaju neprimetno da otvaraju kada traze "dobre" primerke...
 
Uzeh i ja danas R3 1200 + Mortar Arctic. Samo sam ubacio kombo u kuciste prikacio SSD i vozi. Mator sistem W10 X64, pre toga je vozio Intel+nVidia kombo, a jos pre toga Intel+AMD kombo i sve sljaka iz prve :). Ja apsolutno ne kontam zasto ljudi ovde pricaju da AMD nije P&P.

Svakako cu nabaciti svez sistem cim stignem, ali ovo sada radi bez greske. Na prvi boot sam postavio 3.4 GHz za CPU i 2.4 GHz za RAM. Igranje tek sledi :d
 


 
Da li ryzeni trojke konkretno 1300x imaju problema sa radom sa WIN 7? Ili sve šljaka normalno? 1300x i Asus 320 mobo u planu.
 
Nema nikakve veze koji Ryzen, isti je problem kao sa svim novim platformema, drajveri za ploču. U većini slučajeva moraju da se ubace neki drajveri pre instalacije W7.
Jedno moje iskustvo: Ubacio sam drajvere u čist W7 Sp1 ISO, nekako instalirao i posle slučajno ubacim SSD sa W7 od mog starog FX 6350 sistema i to proradi posle 2 -3 BSOD-a i odlaska u safe mode. Pošto je već imao puno programa i igara instaliranih ostavio sam taj SSD i evo još uvek radi.
 
Poslednja izmena:
Radi Win7 sa Ryzen procesorima, na Crosshair VI Hero sam uspesno isntalirao i sve je kako treba. Samo je sistem koji vec ima integrisane drajvere i to je to.
 
Radi Win7 sa Ryzen procesorima, na Crosshair VI Hero sam uspesno isntalirao i sve je kako treba. Samo je sistem koji vec ima integrisane drajvere i to je to.

Da li mogu "negde" da nađem sistem sa integrisanim drajverima da ne moram to ručno da radim?.. Nisam sigurna da bih znao, sećam se da sam čitao negde o tome, verovatno ryzen 5 temi, delovalo mi je komplikovano.
 
Da li mogu "negde" da nađem sistem sa integrisanim drajverima da ne moram to ručno da radim?.. Nisam sigurna da bih znao, sećam se da sam čitao negde o tome, verovatno ryzen 5 temi, delovalo mi je komplikovano.

Imas na PM.
 
Da ozivimo malo temu, dosla zamenska ploca :D

Konfa iz potpisa, 1300X sa turbom ukjucenim, napon ide do 1.41V, klok bustuje 3.6-3.8GHz.
Turbo iskljucen, procesor na 3.5GHz, napon 1.17V.

Turbo i XFR su toliko dobri da povecavaju napon procesora za celih 0.24V za mizernih 7-8% razlike u kloku.
Za sada ce stajati na stock, bez turba, videcemo dokle :D
 
Trenutno na 2666, mrzi me da cackam dodatno da bi radila na vise. Radi i na 2800 sa istim podesavanjima, ali imam cold boot problem.
Na ovom biosu mislim da bih morao da cackam CLDO_VDDP da bi radila na preko 2666, ne bih to radio.

Sacekacu neki bios update, pa cu dalje cackati memoriju, ili da mi odobre da na brzinu zamene plocu za neki drugi model(AsRock X370 Killer Sli ili Msi X370 Sli Plus), jer je ova dosla sa izgrebanim vrm hladnjakom, ali mi ne pada na pamet da zbog toga saljem na reklamaciju i cekam opet mesec ipo dana, jedino da odobre nesto brzo :D
 
Poslednja izmena:
Benchmarkovi iz Gta V:

8GB CL17 2400MHz Single Channel:
Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 41.926754, 77.150452, 61.962891
Pass 1, 48.770359, 134.659149, 73.942955
Pass 2, 48.434269, 134.400665, 70.542824
Pass 3, 42.183159, 109.716377, 69.297142
Pass 4, 0.818358, 169.101715, 69.853439

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 12.961687, 23.851118, 16.138691
Pass 1, 7.426157, 20.504257, 13.523939
Pass 2, 7.440439, 20.646538, 14.175786
Pass 3, 9.114409, 23.706142, 14.430610
Pass 4, 5.913600, 1221.959106, 14.315687

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 318/578 frames (55.02%)
Pass 1: 684/697 frames (98.13%)
Pass 2: 559/661 frames (84.57%)
Pass 3: 468/641 frames (73.01%)
Pass 4: 5717/7812 frames (73.18%)

Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 578/578 frames (100.00%)
Pass 1: 697/697 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 661/661 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 641/641 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 7785/7812 frames (99.65%)

Percentiles in ms for pass 0
50%, 15.00
75%, 17.00
80%, 18.00
85%, 18.00
90%, 19.00
91%, 19.00
92%, 19.00
93%, 19.00
94%, 19.00
95%, 20.00
96%, 20.00
97%, 20.00
98%, 20.00
99%, 21.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 1
50%, 13.00
75%, 13.00
80%, 14.00
85%, 14.00
90%, 14.00
91%, 14.00
92%, 15.00
93%, 15.00
94%, 15.00
95%, 15.00
96%, 15.00
97%, 15.00
98%, 15.00
99%, 16.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 2
50%, 14.00
75%, 15.00
80%, 15.00
85%, 16.00
90%, 16.00
91%, 16.00
92%, 16.00
93%, 16.00
94%, 16.00
95%, 16.00
96%, 16.00
97%, 17.00
98%, 17.00
99%, 17.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 3
50%, 13.00
75%, 16.00
80%, 16.00
85%, 17.00
90%, 18.00
91%, 18.00
92%, 19.00
93%, 19.00
94%, 19.00
95%, 19.00
96%, 20.00
97%, 20.00
98%, 21.00
99%, 22.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 4
50%, 13.00
75%, 16.00
80%, 16.00
85%, 17.00
90%, 18.00
91%, 18.00
92%, 18.00
93%, 18.00
94%, 19.00
95%, 19.00
96%, 19.00
97%, 20.00
98%, 21.00
99%, 22.00

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz
8192MB RAM
Radeon (TM) RX 470 Graphics, 4239MB, Driver Version 22.19.685.0
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x1002 with Device ID 0x67df

=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 800x600 (FullScreen) @ 75Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 2
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 0
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 2
MSAAFragments: 0
MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 1
WaterQuality: 1
GrassQuality: 0
ShaderQuality: 1
Shadow_SoftShadows: 1
UltraShadows_Enabled: false
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: false
Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2
CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 0
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: false
MaxLodScale: 0.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000
2x8gb 2666MHz CL16
Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 47.639484, 85.705612, 70.213654
Pass 1, 49.571598, 140.465652, 91.316551
Pass 2, 21.480419, 121.458870, 84.551125
Pass 3, 33.093391, 135.156891, 94.412346
Pass 4, 34.080391, 147.671127, 94.215324

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 11.667848, 20.990992, 14.242244
Pass 1, 7.119178, 20.172842, 10.950917
Pass 2, 8.233240, 46.554028, 11.827164
Pass 3, 7.398809, 30.217514, 10.591835
Pass 4, 6.771804, 29.342386, 10.613984

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 491/655 frames (74.96%)
Pass 1: 847/848 frames (99.88%)
Pass 2: 714/767 frames (93.09%)
Pass 3: 732/824 frames (88.83%)
Pass 4: 9512/10284 frames (92.49%)

Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 655/655 frames (100.00%)
Pass 1: 848/848 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 766/767 frames (99.87%)
Pass 3: 824/824 frames (100.00%)
Pass 4: 10284/10284 frames (100.00%)

Percentiles in ms for pass 0
50%, 13.00
75%, 15.00
80%, 16.00
85%, 16.00
90%, 17.00
91%, 17.00
92%, 17.00
93%, 17.00
94%, 17.00
95%, 18.00
96%, 18.00
97%, 18.00
98%, 18.00
99%, 19.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 1
50%, 10.00
75%, 12.00
80%, 12.00
85%, 13.00
90%, 13.00
91%, 14.00
92%, 14.00
93%, 14.00
94%, 14.00
95%, 14.00
96%, 14.00
97%, 14.00
98%, 14.00
99%, 14.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 2
50%, 12.00
75%, 14.00
80%, 14.00
85%, 15.00
90%, 15.00
91%, 15.00
92%, 15.00
93%, 15.00
94%, 16.00
95%, 16.00
96%, 16.00
97%, 16.00
98%, 16.00
99%, 17.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 3
50%, 9.00
75%, 14.00
80%, 15.00
85%, 15.00
90%, 16.00
91%, 16.00
92%, 16.00
93%, 17.00
94%, 18.00
95%, 18.00
96%, 18.00
97%, 18.00
98%, 19.00
99%, 20.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 4
50%, 10.00
75%, 13.00
80%, 14.00
85%, 14.00
90%, 15.00
91%, 15.00
92%, 15.00
93%, 16.00
94%, 16.00
95%, 16.00
96%, 17.00
97%, 17.00
98%, 18.00
99%, 19.00

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.9GHz
16384MB RAM
Radeon (TM) RX 470 Graphics, 4239MB, Driver Version 22.19.662.4
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x1002 with Device ID 0x67df

=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 800x600 (FullScreen) @ 75Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 2
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 0
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 2
MSAAFragments: 0
MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 1
WaterQuality: 1
GrassQuality: 0
ShaderQuality: 1
Shadow_SoftShadows: 1
UltraShadows_Enabled: false
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: false
Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2
CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 0
DoF: false
HdStreamingInFlight: false
MaxLodScale: 0.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000
Max. i min. fps ne bih uzimao u obzir, jer nema puno smisla.
Fps meri direktno igra i cuva tekstualni fajl u kome pisu rezultati.
Jedina razlika osim rama, sto se vidi i u logovima, je sto je CPU na 3.9GHz u drugom testu, mada to je dodalo 2.6% fps, sto je najvise 2fps vise.

Average fps za 1x8gb 2400Mhz CL17:

69.2, nek bude 71 zbog 100MHz vise na procesoru.

Average fps za 2x8GB 2666 CL16:

87.2
Ponovno testiranje uz novi bios update na kojem memorija radi bez problema na 2933, procesor na 3.9GHz, skroz stabilan sistem.

2x8GB 2933 CL16
Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 54.095451, 107.486626, 75.810562
Pass 1, 61.601639, 121.028534, 97.498367
Pass 2, 61.636082, 130.896408, 92.783226
Pass 3, 23.603603, 134.921524, 99.079224
Pass 4, 11.563594, 155.192841, 102.313446

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 9.303483, 18.485842, 13.190774
Pass 1, 8.262514, 16.233334, 10.256582
Pass 2, 7.639629, 16.224262, 10.777810
Pass 3, 7.411716, 42.366413, 10.092934
Pass 4, 6.443596, 86.478302, 9.773887

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):
Pass 0: 638/706 frames (90.37%)
Pass 1: 904/905 frames (99.89%)
Pass 2: 848/849 frames (99.88%)
Pass 3: 804/871 frames (92.31%)
Pass 4: 10675/11179 frames (95.49%)

Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):
Pass 0: 706/706 frames (100.00%)
Pass 1: 905/905 frames (100.00%)
Pass 2: 849/849 frames (100.00%)
Pass 3: 869/871 frames (99.77%)
Pass 4: 11176/11179 frames (99.97%)

Percentiles in ms for pass 0
50%, 12.00
75%, 15.00
80%, 15.00
85%, 15.00
90%, 15.00
91%, 16.00
92%, 16.00
93%, 16.00
94%, 16.00
95%, 16.00
96%, 16.00
97%, 17.00
98%, 17.00
99%, 17.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 1
50%, 9.00
75%, 11.00
80%, 11.00
85%, 12.00
90%, 13.00
91%, 13.00
92%, 13.00
93%, 13.00
94%, 13.00
95%, 13.00
96%, 13.00
97%, 13.00
98%, 13.00
99%, 13.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 2
50%, 11.00
75%, 12.00
80%, 13.00
85%, 13.00
90%, 14.00
91%, 14.00
92%, 14.00
93%, 14.00
94%, 14.00
95%, 14.00
96%, 14.00
97%, 14.00
98%, 14.00
99%, 14.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 3
50%, 9.00
75%, 14.00
80%, 14.00
85%, 14.00
90%, 15.00
91%, 15.00
92%, 15.00
93%, 16.00
94%, 16.00
95%, 17.00
96%, 17.00
97%, 17.00
98%, 17.00
99%, 19.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 4
50%, 9.00
75%, 11.00
80%, 12.00
85%, 13.00
90%, 14.00
91%, 14.00
92%, 14.00
93%, 14.00
94%, 15.00
95%, 15.00
96%, 16.00
97%, 16.00
98%, 17.00
99%, 17.00

=== SYSTEM ===
Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
DX Feature Level: 11.0
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
16384MB RAM
Radeon (TM) RX 470 Graphics, 4237MB, Driver Version 23.20.15017.3010
Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x1002 with Device ID 0x67df

=== SETTINGS ===
Display: 1280x720 (FullScreen) @ 75Hz VSync OFF
Tessellation: 2
LodScale: 1.000000
PedLodBias: 0.200000
VehicleLodBias: 0.000000
ShadowQuality: 2
ReflectionQuality: 2
ReflectionMSAA: 0
SSAO: 2
AnisotropicFiltering: 16
MSAA: 2
MSAAFragments: 0
MSAAQuality: 0
SamplingMode: 0
TextureQuality: 2
ParticleQuality: 1
WaterQuality: 1
GrassQuality: 0
ShaderQuality: 1
Shadow_SoftShadows: 1
UltraShadows_Enabled: false
Shadow_ParticleShadows: true
Shadow_Distance: 1.000000
Shadow_LongShadows: false
Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000
Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000
Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000
Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false
Reflection_MipBlur: true
FXAA_Enabled: true
TXAA_Enabled: false
Lighting_FogVolumes: true
Shader_SSA: true
DX_Version: 2
CityDensity: 1.000000
PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000
PostFX: 2
DoF: true
HdStreamingInFlight: false
MaxLodScale: 0.000000
MotionBlurStrength: 0.000000
Average fps za 2x8gb 2933 93.4

Zacudjujuce sposoban R3.
Iz ovoga mogu da zakljucim da su ram brzina i dual channel veoma bitni(u cpu intenzivnim igrama), sa adekvatnom grafickom kartom, mada sa bilo kojom iole sposobnom kartom(gtx 1050 pa navise) se moze izvuci 75 fps, a da to lici na nesto.
Prelaskom sa 2400MHz single channel CL17 na 2933MHz Cl16 dual channel se u gta V(pretpostavljam analogno i u ostalim cpu intenzivnim igrama, mozda malo manje izrazeno) moze dobiti do ~30% performansi.
Prelaskom sa 2666MHz na 2933MHz(oko 10%), sve ostalo isto, dobija se ~6% bolji fps, dakle dual channel i nize latence takodje imaju veliku ulogu.
 
Poslednja izmena:
Pozdrav, malo laicko pitanje. Spremam se da menjam konfiguraciju, trenutno imam
AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955 3200 MHz i
Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H v2, na procesoru je
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus,
zanima me da li cu nekako moci naglaviti ovaj kuler na AM4, konkretno ryzen 5 1500X ili da ga prodajem sa procesorom?
Hvala puno ;)
 
Mogao si makar da pogledas na netu, a ne da siris dezinformacije...

@limbonic

Moze taj tvoj kuler na AM4. Javi se samo CM podrsci na ovom forumu i oni ce ti poslati AM4 bracket. Trebalo bi da je isti kao i za CM212 Evo.
Hm, hvala puno za info [emoji6].
Bio bih zahvalan za link. Slabo se snalazim sa forumima.
Hvala unapred.

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R3 2200G uz malo klokovanja može biti isti kao R5 2400G kad je na normalnim podešavanjima. Čak je i kuler koji dođe solidan i može se sa njim fino klokovati.
Ko hoće da igra Doom, BF, Tomb Raider neka preskoči ceo događaj sa Ryzen APU. Ko igra Dotu, CS:GO, WoT, kao ja, ima se čemu radovati.
 
Ne bih koristio tu integrisanu, imam R9 290x, jos uvek je dobra [emoji16]

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Dobar je ovaj APU, posebno R3, za neki esports sadrzaj, a bogami i kao osnova za jako, jako dobar multimedia pc. Problem je samo sto je 8gb rama 90e...
 
Ponovno testiranje uz novi bios update na kojem memorija radi bez problema na 2933, procesor na 3.9GHz, skroz stabilan sistem.

Ja nisam imao vremena ranije da se poigram, nabacio novi bios na moj B350 mortar arctic, prvo pokretanje na 3.8 @1.3V, memorija na 2667 (inace je na 2400 deklarisana) podigao se win pustio prime sve bez problema proslo.

Sutra ujutru se budim i gledamo devojka i ja neku seriju i skontam da mi jako glasno radi PC. Odem u task manager da vidim da nema neki proces iza, kad ono zaboravio da ugasim prime :d

Igrao sam uvece i kantere i jos neke gluposti terao uopste nisam osetio da radi prime :D

Sto je najbolje temp max za CPU ~50 VRM ~60.

Super su sada ispeglali bios, pre ovoga nisam mogao uopste da boot-ujem na 3.8 @1.3 i memorija na XMP2 (2400MHz). Mrzi me da prckam dalje (da smanjim mozda malo napon ili da probam 3.9) zato sto iz nekog razloga boot protection nije hteo da mi radi pre i svaki put sam morao da radim clear cmos, sto je smaranje nevidjeno.
 
Neces moci da smanjis napon jer je MSI namestio da minimalni napon koji fiksno moze sa se podesi bude 1.3V.
 
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