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      3. Entry Vega je oko $500. RX 580 verovatno vise nece biti ispod $400 opet. Kupovina 1080 mi se cini boljom akcijom uopsteno.

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      6. Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 Strix Gaming

        http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...-strix-gaming/

        A quick word on overclocking. We managed to run the Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 at 1,980MHz core and 1,000MHz memory, just beating out the clocks achieved by reference, and by doing so we added
        an additional 6.4 per cent performance in a trio of games. The downside of this voltage-induced performance is that power consumption rose to 532W at the wall

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      9. Citat Citiram korisnika: PCBeast Pogledaj poruku
        Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 Strix Gaming

        http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...-strix-gaming/

        A quick word on overclocking. We managed to run the Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 at 1,980MHz core and 1,000MHz memory, just beating out the clocks achieved by reference, and by doing so we added
        an additional 6.4 per cent performance in a trio of games. The downside of this voltage-induced performance is that power consumption rose to 532W at the wall
        Nekoliko frejmova dobitka za +120W potrošnje...i to na top kartici. Bravo, AMD, bravo.

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        Menjao jurodivi : 18.08.2017. u 17:04

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      12. Ja sam okačio video gde AdoredTV detaljno prikazuje potrošnju prilikom overkloka. Pri maksimalnom overkloku turbo mod potrošnja je bila ~540w a za balance~379w. Razlika u fps mala da bi opravdalo povećanje potrošnje........ Vega64 je stvarno loša

        edit: da ne pišem napamet evo ga :

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGpvBrwXvA&t=521s
        Menjao Vegeta : 18.08.2017. u 19:14

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      15. Jel ima takav klip za RX 56? Obzirom da joj je potrosnja malte ne kao kod GTX 1080 Ti mislim da bi sa OC-om prestigla 1080 Ti po potrosnji (obe karte OC)

        Sto se tice rezultata, koliko sam mogao da primetim sarenoliki su rezultati i mnogo zavise od postavki u igrama.

        Kod Hardware Unboxed kroz 25 igara jedva da je 2% brza RX 56 od GTX 1070 u QHD rezoluciji dok su u 1080p jednake.
        Preleteo sam dosta testova i ono sto mi je definitivno zapalo za oko jeste pad performansi prilikom pojacane filtracije pogotovu u vecim rezolucijama recimo u primerima vezanim za RX 64.

        Jedan od takvih..

        Evo igre koja vise lezi AMD kartama i po nekoj logici za ocekivati je da Vega tu bude malo brza obzirom da su karte tu negde po snazi.

        DeusEX Mankind :

        Bez AA :

        https://images.hardocp.com/images/ar...o0altk_5_2.png

        Sa AA :

        https://images.hardocp.com/images/ar...o0altk_5_3.png

        Takodje kod 4K karte nekad zaostaju u odnosu na nVidia-u a i min fps je losiji.
        Ocekivao sam da HBM2 tu malo pogura, ocigledno da nije dovoljno, bar ne da odnese pobedu za tu rezoluciju. Slicno je bilo kada se FuryX pojavio.

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      18. iz Gamers Nexus su radili test potrošnje za 56, citiram :

        "For Honor shows power consumption at 313W for RX Vega 56, with the GTX 1070 FE Stock at 232W, or 26% lower power consumption."

        http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews...ge-hbm-vs-core

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      21. Citat Citiram korisnika: PCBeast Pogledaj poruku
        Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 Strix Gaming

        http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...-strix-gaming/

        A quick word on overclocking. We managed to run the Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 at 1,980MHz core and 1,000MHz memory, just beating out the clocks achieved by reference, and by doing so we added
        an additional 6.4 per cent performance in a trio of games. The downside of this voltage-induced performance is that power consumption rose to 532W at the wall
        Dokaz da overklokovana Vega sa overklokovanim i7-6700K na 4.6 GHz može komotno da radi na kvalitetnom 600W napajanju. Ceo sistem trošio 532W tokom igara.

        Odlična kartica, deo koji si ispustio da kopiraš:
        Asus adding extra TDP to the BIOS obviously increases total power consumption. That is reflected in under-load figures that are 44W higher than reference.
        However, that massive Strix cooler does an admirable job of keeping RX Vega 64 cool and composed.
        What's more, though we didn't test in our own environment, the card's fans kept very quiet under load. We'd describe the card as barely audible in a typical gaming rig, as is the GTX 1080 version, to be fair, and therefore a huge improvement over the noisy Radeon reference model.
        Što se tiče ovekloka, pričao sam na nekoj od prethodnih strana da inicijalini drajveri nisu omogućavali overklok i da su pokazivali neke sumanute rezultate a u stvari je klok kaskao. Koristili su iste te drajvere:
        Drivers were the same 17.8.1 beta as used on the reference card.


        EDIT: sad vidim i par drugih sajtova je bilo pozvano u ASUS UK da vide kako izgleda ovaj Vega 64 Strix koji će izaći u septembru:



        Nemci su je nahvalili u odnosu na referentnu (googlish):
        Conclusion: Positive first impression
        Even if a test of the final Asus Radeon RX Vega 64 Strix like the market introduction still a few weeks in must wait, shows the pre-production copy of Asus already where it goes with this partner card: In the right direction. This is largely due to the 2.5-slot thick cooling system, which was already convincing on the Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Strix (test) .
        Because while the reference card goes under load loudly, the version of Asus manages to remain very quiet even in games. From a closed case the strix under load is hardly heard and the quiet competition with GeForce GTX 1080 equals.

        The performance-per-watt ratio is slightly better
        Asus did not like the graphics card: The Radeon RX Vega 64 Strix is ​​even a bit faster than the reference design of the Radeon RX Vega 64 (Test) and is in the case somewhat smaller selection of games with an overclocked GeForce GTX 1080 equals. This also creates the reference design with a maximized Power Target, but an abnormally high volume is generated.

        Another reason for the quiet cooling with high performance next to the radiator is the third good news: The power consumption has hardly increased compared to the reference model at 100 percent Power Target. It remains high, but the performance per watt ratio is slightly better compared to the reference card.

        Final Partner Cards at the end of September
        Even though it will be a final evaluation of the graphics card only on the basis of a final version, to ensure that it also corresponds to the model in the trade, the first impression of the Radeon RX Vega 64 Strix is ​​very positive. What will it cost? Asus did not say anything.
        Whether the model of Asus will be superior to the other partner cards, including those of the usually strong AMD exclusive partners PowerColor and Sapphire, must also show up. Probably towards the end of September, a test of several partner cards will also answer this question.

        EDIT2:
        AMD has released a statement regarding the supply issues of Vega. 

        AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 will be restocked for 499 USD ‘over the next few weeks
        Menjao pixell : 18.08.2017. u 23:46
        #RadeonRebellion against electrical safety

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      24. Glupost, pa koji stock kuler je ikada bio tih? Bilo da je rec o Nvidiji ili Atiju, uvek su bila neka single fan turbina resenja koja su bila i toplija i bucnija od maltene svega ostalog na trzistu.

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      27. ^

        Meni je jedna karta ostala u mnogo lepom secanju. To vreme je bilo fantasticno.

        7900 GTX/GTO.

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      30. Samo dual gpu.

        Sent from my S6 Edge

      31. #101
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      33. Toliko o "fabuloznom overkloku" na Vegi...

        https://youtu.be/SBx73n-fgdE

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      36. Stiv je tu objasnio da postoji greška u drajverima koja prijavljuje veći klok a u stvari ne donosi nikakva poboljšanja. Isto se dešava i sa manjim klokom i većom HBM2 frekvencijom.

        Ova "tebela" objašnjava u detalje to:

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        Žutom bojom sam obeležio najbolje rezultate koji su realni i primenljivi. Oko 20% od podrazumevanih, fabričkih frekvencija je moguće izvući kombinacijom overkloka GPU i HMB2 kao i power limita.

        Za sve koji su čitali i gledali opise od izbacivanje ovo ništa nije novo jer je i AMD javno objavio da inicijalni drajveri nisu idealni za oveklok kao i da je radni takt tokom ovekloka nerealan i da se za testiranje provrti 3D Mark i uporede rezultati.
        Nešto o čemu sam već pisao u ovoj temi.
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        #RadeonRebellion against electrical safety

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      39. 20% dobitka u score-u takođe nije malo..Steve je primetio da osim baga gde karta ne radi na kloku koji prijavljuje software, javljaju se i bagovi u vidu da karta ne renderuje sve..ja bih ipak sačekao da se sve to ispravi pre zaključaka o visini overclock-a.

        Gledam već nekoliko dana u Nemačkoj, izuzev limited edition i liquid verzija, karti ima svuda po ceni od 650 evra.
        Ne primećujem veliku potražnju, i ne čudi jer po ovoj ceni karta nema mnogo smisla - za gejmere je preskupa za ono što nudi a ni za mining se nije nešto pokazala obzirom da troši mnogo.

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      42. poor volta ili vega ?

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      45. Za 650e vec nikom nije zanimljiva. Launch cena je kao 500 dolara, a posto je dolar bas dosta pao, to bi trebalo da bude oko 430 evra. To je cena u USA bez poreza. U Evropi nek je i 30% porez (a nije), to je oko 550 evra. Za te pare moze da ide, za 650 vec ne moze, posebno sto je referentna karta sa velikom potrosnjom.

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