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      3. Dobar review (Model bez Touch Bar-a naravnol):

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFolvM_uozU

        Ceo tekst
        Menjao rushko : 01.11.2016. u 12:14
        Shining smooth, shining bright, worked by fire, heart of light

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      6. Citat Citiram korisnika: tuxserbia Pogledaj poruku
        Kakav njihov format? Običan PCIe m.2, isto kao i prošle godine.
        Sam sebe da demantujem, manijaci stvarno opet promenili konektor. Verovatno je zato 67% brži ;-(

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      9. Citat Citiram korisnika: mefisto Pogledaj poruku
        Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for.
        https://medium.com/charged-tech/appl...89b#.n63jtfpxb
        Decko je *****.

        Bezveze sam potrosio 8 minuta...

        EDIT:
        mada kome se svidja tekst, evo i vizualizacija istog

        http://9gag.com/tv/p/a66WOO/macbook-...ody-ad?ref=fbp
        Menjao kovacm : 02.11.2016. u 14:48
        "Unfortunately, people are not rebelling against Microsoft. They don’t know any better." SJ, "For the masses, not for the classes." JT, "Everything is deeply intertwingled." TN

      10. #34
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        Verge je objavio review najslabijeg MBP bez touch bara:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_205ZY52pY

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      13. I odma fail..

        Ako ustekate nesto u usb, diskonektuje sa wifi-ja

        https://youtu.be/NYVjIjBMx6o


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        To je lep feature, a ovaj ne ume da ušteka. Pogrešno drži.


        2016 MacBook Pros may not be compatible with currently available Thunderbolt 3 devices
        Menjao lolicon : 04.11.2016. u 03:20

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      17. Citat Citiram korisnika: kimi Pogledaj poruku
        I odma fail..

        Ako ustekate nesto u usb, diskonektuje sa wifi-ja

        https://youtu.be/NYVjIjBMx6o


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        taj lik je retardiran.

        vec nekoliko puta nalecam na linkove ka njegovim videima, ne znam zasto se ljudi loze na te gluposti... 200.000 subscribera - valjda sve istomisljenici...
        "Unfortunately, people are not rebelling against Microsoft. They don’t know any better." SJ, "For the masses, not for the classes." JT, "Everything is deeply intertwingled." TN

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      20. Lik ima opremu od nekoliko desetina hiljada dolara i jedan je od većih samostalnih servisera Apple uređaja, plus ima brojne klipove gdje prikazuje proces. Ako iko zna šta radi a šta ne, i šta crkava na Macu - on zna.
        End of line

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        Decko je *****.

        Bezveze sam potrosio 8 minuta...
        Citat Citiram korisnika: kovacm Pogledaj poruku
        taj lik je retardiran.

        vec nekoliko puta nalecam na linkove ka njegovim videima, ne znam zasto se ljudi loze na te gluposti... 200.000 subscribera - valjda sve istomisljenici...
        Svako ko ukaže na nešto loše kod bezgrešnog novog MBPa je retard? Pa i ako lepo dokaže to onda su to samo gluposti?

      22. #40
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      23. Moja mašina
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      24. Baš su žestoko failovali sa ovim novim MBP. Kada bude došlo vreme za upgrade - ne znam šta ću uraditi. macOS mi je najbolji operativni sistem (pre toga sam 7 godina koristio Archlinux), ali ako budem morao da koristim milion adaptera da postignem ono što želim, to mi je veliki problem. Najveći problem mi je touchbar, navikao sam da koristim funkcijske tastere u terminalu, recimo u MidnightCommanderu i sigurno će mi smanjiti produktivnost.

        Ovakve poteze nisu donosili dok je bio živ Steve Jobs.

      25. #41
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        Citat Citiram korisnika: Roy Fokker Pogledaj poruku
        Lik ima opremu od nekoliko desetina hiljada dolara i jedan je od većih samostalnih servisera Apple uređaja, plus ima brojne klipove gdje prikazuje proces. Ako iko zna šta radi a šta ne, i šta crkava na Macu - on zna.
        Obzirom da ne ume ni da ga otvori očigledno je da nema blage veze sa mekovima, a kamoli o tome šta crkava. Čak i cela tema oko koje je napravio video "ne radi wi-fi kad se uključi nešto u usb-c port" se kasnije u videu pokazala kao netačna jer mu je radilo normalno čak i sa tom njegovom dodatnom opremom za snimanje i montažu koju priključuje preko ko zna kakvih 3rd pty adaptera, kao i sa nekim razvaljenim hard diskom. Lik je vrlo zanimljiv jer se unosi i loži ali očigledno je da nema pojma o tome što priča.

        Citat Citiram korisnika: lolicon Pogledaj poruku
        Svako ko ukaže na nešto loše kod bezgrešnog novog MBPa je retard? Pa i ako lepo dokaže to onda su to samo gluposti?
        Naprotiv, daleko da je reč o nekom bezgrešnom proizvodu. Što više videa i članaka koji otkrivaju loše strane nekih rešenja to bolje za kupce. Na žalost, ovo nije jedan od takvih videa koji otkrivaju bilo šta korisno. Čovek se 10 minuta mučio da izvadi ssd drajv koji se inače vadi tako što se odšrafe dva šrafa i odlepi traka koja stoji preko drajva, dakle 1.5min za neuke max.

        Po meni, stoji da je sa cenom od oko 1200 eur MBP jedan od najboljih laptopova na tržištu. Sa cenom od 1600e, teško...
        Menjao leksa : 05.11.2016. u 09:50
        Last edited by leksa : 01.01.0001 at 00:00

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      28. Apple Drops Prices on USB-C Adapters

        - USB-C to USB Adapter - Was $19, now $9
        - Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter - Was $49, now $29
        - USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
        - USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
        - USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) - Was $25, now $19
        - USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m) - Was $35, now $29

        Apple is also dropping the prices on all third-party USB-C peripherals available from Apple,com and Apple retail stores. USB-C accessories will be discounted by about 25 percent, with some accessories, such as SanDisk's USB-C SD card reader, seeing a steeper $20 discount, dropping the price from $49 to $29.

      29. #43
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        Baš su žestoko failovali sa ovim novim MBP. Kada bude došlo vreme za upgrade - ne znam šta ću uraditi. macOS mi je najbolji operativni sistem (pre toga sam 7 godina koristio Archlinux), ali ako budem morao da koristim milion adaptera da postignem ono što želim, to mi je veliki problem. Najveći problem mi je touchbar, navikao sam da koristim funkcijske tastere u terminalu, recimo u MidnightCommanderu i sigurno će mi smanjiti produktivnost.

        Ovakve poteze nisu donosili dok je bio živ Steve Jobs.
        Ako si koristio funkcijske tastere na slepo kao default tastere (bez držanja Fn) onda def ćeš imati problem sa touchbar-om. Ako nisi na slepo kucao onda sam siguran da se t-bar može namestiti da stoji bilo šta na njemu pa i funkcijski tasteri. Ipak, očigledno je da je namenjen ljudima koji se bave audio/video montažom, dizajnom i sl.

        Ipak, i dalje postoji osnovni model bez touchbar-a u prodaji.
        Last edited by leksa : 01.01.0001 at 00:00

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      32. Na slepo sam ih koristio... Problem sa ovim modelom bez touchbara je što ima samo dva USB type-c od kojih je jedan za punjenje.

      33. #45
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      34. Moja mašina
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      35. Sto se tice pucanja wifi konekcije, evo jedan lik sa macrumors-a je detaljnije isprobavao..

        I had it happen too with my 13' MBP.

        I have a USB C to USB A adapter.

        When I plugged in my USB 3.0 Thumb drive with the adapter it simply cut wifi. (did it twice while listening to a live stream audio. Instantly cut when I accessed the drive. It seem to be software.)

        However using the same adapter and syncing my iPhone had no problem at all.

        And an hour ago using the same thumb drive again it didn't drop.

        I'll wait and see.
        Ok ok, i've played a bit with it.

        it's systematic.

        But it seem to depend on the device I use.

        Basically I use this USB key : https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-UV131-....ata+usb+3+16gb

        with this adapter : https://www.amazon.com/TECHTOO-Type....type+a+adapter

        ---

        Ok I started a live radio on iTunes.

        Whenever I plug the drive with the adapter, it's systematic Wifi shut down instantly. I can't refresh pages. Eventually the laptop tell me i lost connection to the internet. It start back instantly when I remove it.

        It happen in both USB C port. It happen with the power cable plugged in the other port or not.

        It also happen if I add this particular USB 3.0 hub between the adapter and the usb thumb drive :

        https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Bus-Pow....nker+usb+3+hub

        (same thing, whatever the port, no matter if power is plugged or not.)

        ---

        However. 2 things :

        Just plugging the adapter or the adapter+hub doesn't cut down wifi. It's only when I actually add the thumb drive.

        With both the same adapter and the same hub, + lightning cable + iPhone and sync. It doesn't affect the internet.

        So for now, it seem to be linked to my thumb drive.

        I will find my old external HDD and see if it does the same thing. Stay tuned.

        --- Post Merged, Thursday at 1:36 PM ---

        Update :

        the adapter + 2.5mm USB 2.0 enclosure (powered by the laptop) = no effect. Even when I make a transfer. (it's actually plugged in right now)

        Next step : find my old usb 2 thumb drive ...

        --- Post Merged, Thursday at 1:43 PM ---

        New Update :

        adapter + USB 2.0 Kingston Thumb drive = no effect. (even when working on a large transfer).

        Next step : Removing one of my 3.5' HDD from my desktop PC, finding my USB 3.0 dock (powered by a wall plug) and see if it have any effect. Just to check if it is linked to USB 3.0 (just in case) or linked to my particular thumbdrive.

        UPDATE :

        Adapter + USB 3.0 HDD Dock (self powered) + HDD + big file transfer = No effect on Wifi. Stream still strong. Pages updates as fast. (no lost bar on the Wifi icon, like any other test that didn't affect wifi signal.)

        --- Post Merged, Thursday at 2:20 PM ---

        PROBLEM SOLVED! :

        Ok, from a bit of google search, it seems related to USB 3.0 and 2.4Ghz Wifi band (widely used on a lot of wifi setup). It doesn't seem to be related to the 2016 MacBook Pro but to badly "shielded" usb 3.0 devices that emit interference that disturb 2.4Ghz Wifi Signals. Also its easy to find people complaining about the same effect on other computers, Macs or PC.

        http://www.intel.com/content/www/us....nce-paper.html

        http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2423604,00.asp

        (just make a quick search on USB 3.0 and Wifi interference)

        UPDATE : New test

        Original USB 3.0 Thumbdrive that caused the problem + Adapter + Everything wrapped in tinfoil = ... NO PROBLEM WITH WIFI !

        So basically my cheap USB 3.0 Thumbdrive make interference with 2.4 Ghz Wifi band.

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