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      1. #7336
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      3. Da sickrage to odradjuje kako mu naredis, ali i pored toga plex prepoznaje sam sve zivo.
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        Citat Citiram korisnika: emaremare Pogledaj poruku
        Da sickrage to odradjuje kako mu naredis, ali i pored toga plex prepoznaje sam sve zivo.
        Skoro sve. Recimo Chicago Justice Web ripove meni ne prepoznaje po automatizmu.
        Where else can you go?

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      7. Total commander ima moćan rename alat (ctrl+M), ja ga koristim za mass rename, mada što emaremare reče, Plex-ovi pluginovi su extra, prepoznaju sve živo...

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        Hvala svima na odgovorima (bejah banovan sedam dana zbog offtopic-a pa nisam mogao da se zahvalim )

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      11. Citat Citiram korisnika: glisoni Pogledaj poruku
        Total commander ima moćan rename alat (ctrl+M), ja ga koristim za mass rename, mada što emaremare reče, Plex-ovi pluginovi su extra, prepoznaju sve živo...
        Sve to ok, nego kako si ti na forumu od pocetka modernog vremena?
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      14. Citat Citiram korisnika: emaremare Pogledaj poruku
        Sve to ok, nego kako si ti na forumu od pocetka modernog vremena?
        A to...hehe, pa jednom kada je Peca migrirao user podatke između verzija foruma, nešto se pobrljalo, pa su za neke usera pogubili datum prijave na forum...i tako ti ja postade jedan od "anchient ones"...sto se i ne razlikuje mnogo od realnosti, obzirom da pratim bench od samih početaka "modernog vremena", kako reče...sad pogledah, prvi registrovani post na forumu mi datira iz 2002...davno beše...
        Menjao glisoni : 30.04.2017. u 20:28

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        Hm... pojavio se prvi celi UHD disk na netu... e sad da li je zaštita razbijena ili je ovo nekako procurelo, vreme će pokazati.
        Where else can you go?

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        Koliko je težak?

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        Where else can you go?

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      20. Jeste u pitanju stvar koja mozda nije HD materijal ali mislim da cu ovde najpre dobiti valjani predlog.

        Evo i o cemu se ukratko radi, noviji ripovi pogotovo sam primetio kod Amazon webripova da mi risiver ne prepoznaje zvuk, tacnije pretvara ga u multichanell( to jest tako ga dobija od kompa) a ne u dolby digital kao sto inace radi sa drugim materijalom. Amazon webrip koliko sam video je DD+ sto moj risiver podrzava i pusta kada mu bacim takve materijale. Sta je zanimljivo jeste da i smartr tv na kome mi je plex kada je na opciji auto uvek ove ripove transkoduje zbog tog zvuka, ali kad idem na manual direct play pusti i lepo napise da je dolbz digital.

        Kad je rec o firmwareu kod Onkya tu mogu da se slikam, firmware-a nema nigde niti na jednom sajtu. Kada sam ga kupio imao je gresku kod multichannel-a zandji levi i desni su bili obrnuti. Morao sam direktno da pisem centrali u Nemackoj posto ovi iz "igraca" nisi bili voljni da se drndaju sa time, pa sam na kraju Ssvabama pisao da cu da idem u inspekciju i poslali su mi firmare. Ali s obzirom da je star model mislim da vise ni ne izbacuju firmware za njega.

        Konacno moje pitanje je da li mogu nesto u Windowsu da cacnem ? Dal nekome pada nesto na pamet. Nije preveliki problem zvuk ide sa svakog zvucnika kako treba jedino sto je uvek bolje kad rsiver sam dekodira a ne da dobije dekodirano od kompa.

        toliko o ukratko

        P.S. da li je mozda jos neko primetio kod Amazonovih ripova ovo?

        Sad kada razmislim jeste me malo poprckavao DD+ i pre ali je na kraju uvek radio, moracu da cacnem jos oko svega
        Menjao emaremare : 13.05.2017. u 20:49
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        Koliko sam razumeo ovde se diskutuje o HD sadrzaju,imam neke snimke koji su 720x400 i 1280x720 ,ovako na prvi pogled i nema neke razlike ali kad se malo bolje zagleda ipak ima,interesuje me vase misljenje koja slika je bolja

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      24. Meni lijeva bolja

        PS ubise gadovi freshon.tv
        originally posted by M3:
        @joriq: antiskopik je ovo sto sam ti u prethodnom postu rekao (on izostrava sliku na daljinu kapiras!!!),
        a analizing je omeksivas ivica....i jos nesto ovaj 5900SP to je pravi cip od 5900, a 5900XT je poseban cip ....

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      27. Ovako kako si okačio na oba primera je slika levo značajno bolja. Ti moraš da štediš prostor i to razumem, navikne se čovek na sve, pa do pre godinu dana sam gledao na CRT-u i 1400x800 monitoru (iz potpisa) pa se nisam bunio. Ali da razlike ima, ima.

        Inače, ovo poređenje može biti i bolje i gore jer puštaš iz dva plejera istovremeno. Nemaju iste postavke, drugi kodek i razlika može da bude nebo i zemlja (sa i bez MadVR recimo).
        Uzmi ti isti plejer, pustiš sliku preko celog ekrana, uhvatiš SS za jedan video, pa onda isto to uradiš za drugi video. Slike praviš u png formatu i okačiš na http://screenshotcomparison.com/ pa tamo gledaj uz prosto pomeranje miša se menjaju slike pa da vidiš kolika je razlika. Pustiš preko celog ekrana, gledaš u celini, a onda uhvatiš neki detalj i menjaš pa njega posmatraš.

        Inače, ako hoćeš da uporediš baš kako treba evo ti uputstvo sa BTN/PTP-a kako da sve to odradiš:
        Spoiler:
        This guide assumes you already have and are using the following programs:

        AviSynth (AviSynth plugins)


        AvsPMod


        FFMpegSource


        DGIndex


        BluRay/HDDVD/HDTV

        Basic Script
        1. Open AvsPMod and copy and paste in this script and save it. Open a new avs file and paste this in it:

        Code
        FFVideosource("C:\Path\to\Remux.mkv") #Replace with the path of the source
        Crop(2, 2, -2, -2) #use the cropping values you used for the encode - crop(left, up, -right, -down)
        Spline36Resize(1024,556) #final width and height of the encode


        2. Save that script as source.avs , it will be used for the next script.

        Code
        a=import("C:\Path\To\source.avs").subtitle("Source ", align=9) #path to the first avisynth script
        b=ffvideosource("C:\Path\To\encode.mkv").subtitle( "Encode", align=9)
        ffinfo(true,true,false,false)
        interleave(a,b)


        Pastebin

        3. Hit F5 and AvsP will appear to freeze. This is normal while FFVideoSource is indexing the video. After indexing, you will see duplicate frames in the preview pane. Even numbered frames are from the source and the following odd numbered frames are from the encode. Navigate to the frames you wish to take screenshots of and right click in the preview pane to save your images as PNGs.

        Result

        Source: http://thumbnails115.imagebam.com/51...7519118600.jpg Encode: http://thumbnails115.imagebam.com/51...0519118602.jpg



        DVD/VHS

        Basic Script
        1. Open AvsPMod and copy and paste in this script and save it. Open a new avs file and paste this in it:

        Code
        Mpeg2Source("C:\Path\to\dgindex.d2v", info=0) #info=0 or info=1 turns off or on the frame information overlay
        Crop(2, 2, -2, -2) #use the cropping values you used for the encode - crop(left, up, -right, -down)


        2. Save that script, it will be used for the next script. Save it as dvdsource.avs for example.

        Code
        a=import("C:\Path\To\dvdsource.avs").subtitle("Sou rce", align=9)
        b=ffvideosource("C:\Path\To\encode.mkv").subtitle( "Encode", align=9)
        a=a.ffinfo(framenum=true,frametype=false,cfrtime=f alse,vfrtime=false,version=false,cropping=false,co lorrange=false,colorspace=false,sar=false)
        b=b.ffinfo(framenum=true,frametype=true,cfrtime=fa lse,vfrtime=false,version=false,cropping=false,col orrange=false,colorspace=false,sar=false)
        interleave(a,b)
        spline36resize(converttorgb,ffsar>1?round(width*ff sar):width,ffsar<1?round(height/ffsar):height)


        Pastebin

        Important note: ffinfo can not detect frame types of DVDs correctly, which is why they are not displayed in this script. The info=1 part shows the real frame type, but it shows too much text over the screenshot (example), that's why you might want to disable or enable it.

        4. Hit F5 and AvsP will appear to freeze. This is normal while FFVideoSource is indexing the video. After indexing, you will see duplicate frames in the preview pane. Even numbered frames are from the source and the following odd numbered frames are from the encode. Navigate to the frames you wish to take screenshots of and right click in the preview pane to save your images as PNG.

        Result

        Source: http://thumbnails115.imagebam.com/51...b519118604.jpg Encode: http://thumbnails115.imagebam.com/51...5519118606.jpg


        Other

        Common Errors

        Plugins won't load
        Add these lines to the top of your script, pointing towards FFMS2.avsi and ffms2.dll in your directory respectively:

        Code
        import("C:\Program Files\AviSynth\plugins64\FFMS2.avsi")
        LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth\plugins64\ffms2.dll")


        Source and Encode are off by one frame
        Handbrake sometimes drops the first frame so the resulting encode may be one frame shorter. To realign it with the source again, append .trim(1,framecount) at the end of the source import line, e.g. Code
        a=import("C:\Path\To\source.avs").subtitle("Source ", align=9).trim(1,framecount)


        Encode has a different frame rate than Source
        put Code
        ChangeFPS("ntsc_film")
        in your source.avs or Code
        a=a.ChangeFPS("ntsc_film")
        in the main avs file.
        Change the frame rate accordingly to whatever different frame rate you are facing. AvsPMod will present you options.

        Test Encodes
        The script can be altered to be a very powerful tool when comparing screenshots from several different test encodes to the source.

        You can see we've input the source and three test encodes with varying CRF values, labeled them accordingly with Subtitle, and interleaved them in a way that allows a forward progressing comparison to the source...

        Code
        a=import("C:\Path\To\source.avs").subtitle("Source ", align=9)
        b=ffvideosource("C:\Path\To\test1.mkv").subtitle(" Test Encode 1 CRF 18", align=9)
        c=ffvideosource("C:\Path\To\test2.mkv").subtitle(" Test Encode 2 CRF 17", align=9)
        d=ffvideosource("C:\Path\To\test3.mkv").subtitle(" Test Encode 3 CRF 16", align=9)
        interleave(a,b,a,c,a,d)
        spline36resize(converttorgb,ffsar>1?round(width*ff sar):width,ffsar<1?round(height/ffsar):height)
        ffinfo(framenum=true,frametype=true,cfrtime=false, vfrtime=false)


        Pastebin

        Result

        Source:
        http://thumbnails116.imagebam.com/51...9519119166.jpg

        Test Encode CRF 17:
        http://thumbnails116.imagebam.com/51...4519119170.jpg

        Source Again:
        http://thumbnails116.imagebam.com/51...9519119166.jpg

        Test Encode 2 CRF 16:
        http://thumbnails115.imagebam.com/51...0519119171.jpg


        Moving Text Position

        You can move the position of your text you add ("Source", "Encode", "[Encoding Group]", etc.) by editing the align factor.
        With align=1 until align=9 define the positioning at corners or at the middle.
        With y= or x= you move the text on the y or x axis respectively.
        Use align=7, y=35 for example to display the text right under the frame type.


        Adding Colors

        Open ffms2.avsi and replace it with http://pastebin.com/zhm8RdwS.
        Now you can edit your script to display your text with colors.

        Example Script Wrote:

        Code
        a=import("path\to\source.avs").subtitle("Source", align=9)
        b=FFVideoSource("path\to\encode.mkv").subtitle("En code",text_color=$cccccc,halo_color=$0b5394,align= 9)

        a=a.ffinfo(framenum=true,frametype=true,cfrtime=fa lse,vfrtime=false)
        b=b.ffinfo(framenum=true,frametype=true,cfrtime=fa lse,vfrtime=false,text_color=$0b5394,halo_color=$c ccccc)

        interleave(a,b)
        --------------------------------------
        Threads

        Create a new comparison thread for each season of each show. Title should be:

        [Comparisons] Series Name Season # eg: "[Comparisons] Archer (2009) Season 7"

        or: [Comparisons] Series Name S## eg: "[Comparisons] Archer (2009) S01"

        This should be the series name on BTN. Note that this may mean (US) or (2017) is part of the series name.


        Comparison Guidelines

        Tutorial for basic comparisons with AvsPmod: forums.php?action=viewthread&threadid=21986


        When posting comparisons, include your opinion of relative quality (eg "WEBRip > WEB-DL > Scene HDTV"). This makes it easier to collect quick summaries for lists, or for casual readers who don't want to click-and-compare for themselves


        Use .png only.


        Comparisons should only be made between B-Frames*


        Frame type must be indicated on every screenshot.


        Source, Resolution and Release Group must be indicated--either as the title for a group of screens, or (preferably) as a subtitle burned into each screenshot. eg:


        .subtitle("HDTV 720p (DIMENSION)", align=9) # (top right corner)
        .subtitle("Amazon 1080p (DRACULA)", align=8) # (top center)
        .subtitle("Hulu 720p (NTb)", y=130, align=7) # (top left + down 130px)
        .subtitle("MTV 1080p (BTW)", x=8, y=130) # (8px from left, 130px from top)
        .subtitle("iPlayer 720p (RTN)", 8, 130) # (8, 130)px from top left

        If there's possible ambiguity between WEB-DL/WEBRip (or untouched & encoded WEBRips), then make that clear too. eg:
        .subtitle("Amazon 1080p Untouched (CasStudio)", 8, 130) # (Untouched WEBRip, aka WEB-DL)
        .subtitle("Amazon 1080p (ViSUM)", 8, 130) # (encoded WEBRip is assumed

        ^ This is where we'll get bitten by BTN's overlapping meanings for WEBRips, but "Untouched" is probably the best description we can use for now.


        Lower-resolution screens must be resized to match the highest resolution, using Spline36Resize. If a set of images has a different crop or a different aspect ratio, add black borders to compensate. eg:

        Spline36Resize(1918, 1078,-1, -1).AddBorders(0, 0, 2, 2).ConverttoRGB()



        *NB: Exceptions to "only B-Frames" can be made when comparing many formats. If there's an existing set of comparisons and a new source is added later, some screens may align on non-B-Frames. Just use your judgment: if the new source also looks like the best, then it may be useful to create a new comparison. Choose a new set of frames and compare it with the next best.

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      30. ajmo ljudi nazad na HD filmovi - Tehnicka diskusija
        dakle bez SD i bez (nametanja) ličnih stavova

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      33. Citat Citiram korisnika: Vojkan Pogledaj poruku
        ajmo ljudi nazad na HD filmovi - Tehnicka diskusija
        dakle bez SD i bez (nametanja) ličnih stavova
        Bravo Vojice, najbolji moderator na forumu Konkretna informacija, ljubazno i mirno uz smajli postavljeni uslovi rispekt
        https://www.facebook.com/starivuk86/ moja fb stranica like najbolja stranica u Srbiji ajmo like

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