Apple lagano gubi patent bitku... not!

[kloshar]

Ovo je ona fora sa trollfejsom a neki genije napravio od toga vest.

[Bogda]

Offtopic:

Ovde bih te ispravio - ne trpaj HP u istu korpu sa Compaq-om i Dell-om, gre'ota je. Compaq i Dell su stvarno bili klasicni sklapaci PC konfiguracija, dok je HP mnogo vise od toga. Proveri sta je sve HP radio/radi i cime se sve bavio/bavi i mislim da ces promeniti misljenje.

A šta fali sklapačima? Pa ja sam PC zavoleo zato što je bio sklapački računar i nezimerno sam ga više voleo nego iPad sada.

On topic: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/28/32...trial-schedule
Je li ovo provereno?

[Kimins]

Ako su svi ti glupi dizajnerski patenti validni zasto onda appl€ nije platio google za to sto su ukrali pull-down notification center?!?

[rAMA]

Appl€ kao komanija je danas daleko gora nego što je to M$ ikada bio i svako ko je nepristrasan to će uvidet...

[kovacm]

to ce reci svako ko se ne razume u istoriju racunara. ili je pristrasan. ("Appl€ kao komanija je danas daleko gora nego što je to M$ ikada bio")


1. Microsoft je nefer igrama unistio konkurenciju - kako na polju OSa (DRi, IBM, Novel...) tako i na polju aplikacija (Lotus, WordPerfect, Netscape...)

i kad je kontrolisao 95% trzista racunara, jer su SVI "NEZAVISNI" PROIZVODJACI HARDWAREa morali da se vezu za njih, pravio je razna sranja kako bi unistio preostale kompanije koje nisu zavisile od njega direktno, vec su imale svoje tehnologije: pocevsi od Sun-a i Jave, preko Silicon Graphics i OpenGLa/SoftImagea do pitaj boga cega... (ukljucujuci i Apple kome je pretio da ce ukinuti Office za Mac).



e sad Apple: za razliku od Microsofta, Apple pravi svoj hardware i svoj software i sa njim moze da radi sta hoce. Moze da licencira OS drugima; a isto tako i ne mora. Moze da podrzi Flash, a isto tako i ne mora. Kupac zna sta kupuje, moze da kupi, a ne mora da kupi Apple proizvod (sto nije bio slucaj krajem proslog veka: morao si da kupis Windows jer nista drugo nije ni ostalo).

Razlika je u tome kako je Microsoft stigao do 95% trzista; a kako je Apple stigao do 50% trzista (u mobilnom segmentu).

i na kraju: Apple, za razliku od Microsofta, daje OpenSource zajednici (OpenCL, Webkit, launchd, Grand Central, finansisara CUPS...) dok je Microsoft (dok je bio u poziciji!) radio upravo suprotno: sistematski je unistavaio sve sto je OPEN (od racunarskih protokola do formata fajlova)!

[Aryon]

i na kraju: Apple, za razliku od Microsofta, daje OpenSource zajednici

Ovo je nekada bilo tacno, ali Microsoft sada dosta daje OpenSource zajednici, pogotovo zadnjih 2-3 godine.

[yooyo]

Stvarno? Daj neki primer. Microsoft mrzi open source i zato su pravili svoje verzije open standarda.

[pixell]

Exclusive: Google, Apple CEOs in secret patent talks

Google Inc Chief Executive Larry Page and Apple CEO Tim Cook have been conducting behind-the-scenes talks about a range of intellectual property matters, including the mobile patent disputes between the companies, people familiar with the matter said.

The two executives had a phone conversation last week, the sources said. Discussions involving lower-level officials of the two companies are also ongoing.

Page and Cook are expected to talk again in the coming weeks, though no firm date has been set, the sources said on Thursday. One of the sources told Reuters that a meeting had been scheduled for this Friday, but had been delayed for reasons that were unclear.

The two companies are keeping lines of communication open at a high level against the backdrop of Apple's legal victory in a patent infringement case against Samsung, which uses Google's Android software.

Last Friday, a jury awarded Apple $1.05 billion in damages and set the stage for a possible ban on sales of some Samsung products in a case that has been widely viewed as a "proxy war" between Apple and Google.

One possible scenario under consideration could be a truce involving disputes over basic features and functions in Google's Android mobile software, one source said. But it was unclear whether Page and Cook were discussing a broad settlement of the various disputes between the two companies, most of which involve the burgeoning mobile computing area, or are focused on a more limited set of issues.

Competition between Google and Apple has heated up in recent years with the shift from PCs to mobile devices. Google's Android software, which Apple's late founder Steve Jobs denounced as a "stolen product," has become the world's No.1 smartphone operating system. The popularity of the software has been in tandem with patent infringement lawsuits involving various hardware vendors who use it, including Samsung and HTC.

The latest complaint was filed by Motorola Mobility, now a unit of Google, against Apple at the U.S. International Trade Commission claiming some features of Apple's devices infringe on its patents. A previous lawsuit between the two in a Chicago court was thrown out by a federal judge, who said neither side could prove damages.

Apple in recent months has moved to lessen its reliance on Google's products. Apple recently unveiled its own mobile mapping software, replacing the Google product used in the iPhone, and said it would no longer offer Google's YouTube as a pre-loaded app in future versions of its iPhone.

Cook took the helm at Apple a year ago, and Page stepped into the top job at Google a few months before that.

The conversation between Page and Cook last week did not result in any formal agreement, but the two executives agreed to continue talking, according to one source.

Google's Larry Page, who sat out several public speaking engagements earlier this summer because of an unspecified medical condition affecting his voice, has continued to run Google's business.

Apple and Google declined to comment on any discussions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87T15H20120830

[DariusIII]

Stvarno? Daj neki primer. Microsoft mrzi open source i zato su pravili svoje verzije open standarda.

Recimo:

SOFTWARE DEVELOPER Microsoft entered the top 20 in the list of Linux kernel contributors, coming in 17th place ahead of Linaro and Canonical.
Microsoft, a firm that many Linux users believe tried to kill off Linux through SCO, is the 17th most active contributor to the Linux kernel project since version 2.6.36. According to figures released by the Linux Foundation, Microsoft submitted 688 changes, one per cent of the overall changelog.
Microsoft's contribution in the grand scale of Linux is tiny, with Red Hat, Intel, Novell and IBM accounting for almost 25 per cent of all changes. Microsoft however is very keen to make Linux distributions work well with its Hyper-V hypervisor, so its kernel contributions are not entirely selfless.

The Inquirer (http://s.tt/18O0o)

Ili čak:

Scott Guthrie, vice president of Microsoft's Server & Tools Business division, has announced that Microsoft is now open sourcing several of its ASP.NET technologies. These technologies include ASP.NET MVC, ASP.NET Web API, and ASP.NET Web Pages (Razor). The source code for these technologies is available under an Apache 2.0 license. Additionally, Microsoft will host the code repositories on Codeplex, which includes Git support. According to Guthrie, this decision will lead to better development collaboration within the community.

[yooyo]

I to je sve? Kernel patchevi da bi virtuelne masine radile.

[DariusIII]

Pa do sada ni to nisu radili. Btw, nisam znao da su osnovali i novu kompaniju Microsoft Open Tecnologies Inc.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/interoperabi...mmunities.aspx

[salac]

Offtopic:
A šta fali sklapačima? Pa ja sam PC zavoleo zato što je bio sklapački računar i nezimerno sam ga više voleo nego iPad sada.

Nista, samo kazem. Dell i Compaq su ti bili k'o sto je ovde Comtrade.

Za razliku od njih HP je radio i potpuno svoje racunare (cak se i vode kao kompanija koja je napravila prvi personalni racunar koji se radio u velikim serijama) i svoj operativni sistem (HP-UX).

[LazaNS]

A evo kako to izgleda kada porota nije pristrasna:


http://www.blic.rs/IT/340469/Japan-E...rotiv-Samsunga

Dakle u Japanu su odhebali Apple....

[Aryon]

I to je sve? Kernel patchevi da bi virtuelne masine radile.

Pored ovoga sto je darius naveo takodje su opensource-ovali EntityFramework(njihov ORM), Nuget(.Net menadzer paketa), SignalR... Contribute-uju jquery-u. Koriste opensource biblioteke u svojim default template-ima za visual studio kao sto su jquery, knockout, Json.Net...

[bata87]

Da da MS i opensource Kad videli da ne ide Azure platforma kako treba, ajde moze i linux na istoj... pa moze i Hadoop napravicemo i njega ako treba Al zato u svojim projektima obilato koriste open source projekte (lucene na primer, sada pokusavaju i hadoop da nateraju da radi dobro na njihovoj platformi).